amg35
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Works for us.
You aren't a giant corporation. At least, I don't think so!
Works for us.
You aren't a giant corporation. At least, I don't think so!
I never claimed to be.
Anyway, I hope your $$ difficulties get better soon.
I was just joking with you. Sorry...
But now that you said that....I worked my butt off during school and ever since. Was poor(according to poverty levels) for quite some time even making $31k where I lived (after taxes, we both know how much that really is). Had bad credit, pulled myself out of it year by year and now consider myself very lucky. Thanks for asking.
That doesn't change my answers from previous posts though. What is minimum wage in NYC?
I'm striking. As a consumer. I am refusing to go out and shop.
Walmart is a disgusting company. I do not shop there, period. I feel sorry for anyone who does work there, although they could go elsewhere if it is that bad. .
Or more. It's only 31k a year! Who can live on that and raise a family?
It's better for everyone if people are doing well and can actually afford to buy things like food, medical services, heat, etc. Why would we want to see folks struggle?
But as an employer it is up to me to determine what pay my employee merits, and I have set that pay at $15/hour. As a result, other housekeepers might find out what she makes and demand that level of pay and if the employer cannot afford it they will just have to clean their own house. See how that works? However, in an affluent area where people will not clean their own houses, they will pony up the $$. Trust me.
I am paying my housekeeper a decent wage and as a result does a spectacular job. We are both happy.
There are many different factors at play in a decision like that. You never know what someone's background is when they are supporting a family on minimum wage. Things happen. People get pregnant out of wedlock, people get pregnant while they're married unexpectedly (contraception fails, human error, etc.), they had a great job but got laid off and now this is the work available to them, etc.Here is a question, why would anyone start a family where you would have to support them, at entry level pay? That one always has me scratching my head.
There are many different factors at play in a decision like that. You never know what someone's background is when they are supporting a family on minimum wage. Things happen. People get pregnant out of wedlock, people get pregnant while they're married unexpectedly (contraception fails, human error, etc.), they had a great job but got laid off and now this is the work available to them, etc.
I know. I was answering the question "Why would someone start a family on this pay?" Sometimes that is the only choice, and for some people that is the best way for them to take responsibility for their family.But all of those are unfortunate life circumstances.
It doesn't mean the company should pay higher than minimum wage for a job that only requires minimum wage skills.
Believe me, I'm not trying to be heartless, and I'm very thankful for the job I have.
I know. I was answering the question "Why would someone choose this job when they have a family?" Sometimes that is the only choice, and for some people that is the best way for them to take responsibility for their family.
How do you feel about the Walmart Foundation and the MILLIONS they give out each year? 'Im talking over 900 million, though I'm sure some people will think its not enough.
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I realized my mistake and I edited to correct it before you posted this. But my answer to your question is the same.Actually I asked why would someone START a family if they were working an entry level job.
I just heard on the news that someone was saying they thought that Wal-Mart should pay ALL employees $15/hour!!!!! It was supposedly as striking worker said that is how much they should be paying all employees. I don't know *any* retail store that pays that as a starting wage! At least not around here, it is basically minimum wage -- that goes for Target, Wal-Mart, Kohl's, Best Buy, Home Depot, etc... I can't think of a single one that would say pay their cashiers $15/hour. It is hard enough to find a retail job around here as it is and that is with min. wage or slightly above.
Costco.
I think the lowest Costco goes is around $12 an hour and that's for stockers and such. Cashiers make $15 or more afaik - and *every* Costco employee is entitled to a benefits package that the company picks up more than 90% of the cost of.
There is no Walmart in NYC, just btw. We've managed to keep them out, despite their trying to get in again and again. They're evil.
As to the idea that Walmart and the like are some sort of stepping-stone employment that is just for kids and not adults with families - where in the world does this idea come from?
There are threads in which people discuss that college isn't for everyone and with people talking about going back to work after having not worked for decades and etc., but Walmart and other such jobs are only for teens?
Walmart employs literally millions of people. That's just them, not counting all the other big box stores, fast food establishments, dry cleaners, supermarkets, etc., etc., that employ minimum-wage workers. There aren't enough teen and entry-level young workers in the country to begin to fill those posts. Even if there were, then what do the unskilled, undereducated do for work? They're not all moving up to be managers, that's mathematically impossible.
Plenty of people attempt to support families on those wages, for years and years, because the jobs need to be filled and there are a lot of people for whom that kind of job is the top of the line.
Costco.
I think the lowest Costco goes is around $12 an hour and that's for stockers and such. Cashiers make $15 or more afaik - and *every* Costco employee is entitled to a benefits package that the company picks up more than 90% of the cost of.
There is no Walmart in NYC, just btw. We've managed to keep them out, despite their trying to get in again and again. They're evil.
As to the idea that Walmart and the like are some sort of stepping-stone employment that is just for kids and not adults with families - where in the world does this idea come from?
There are threads in which people discuss that college isn't for everyone and with people talking about going back to work after having not worked for decades and etc., but Walmart and other such jobs are only for teens?
Walmart employs literally millions of people. That's just them, not counting all the other big box stores, fast food establishments, dry cleaners, supermarkets, etc., etc., that employ minimum-wage workers. There aren't enough teen and entry-level young workers in the country to begin to fill those posts. Even if there were, then what do the unskilled, undereducated do for work? They're not all moving up to be managers, that's mathematically impossible.
Plenty of people attempt to support families on those wages, for years and years, because the jobs need to be filled and there are a lot of people for whom that kind of job is the top of the line.
Wow...you sound like an elitist. There are flaws in your logic: While it used to be the norm where you start at an entry-level position, work for a company for X number of years, and you eventually move up the ladder (I know McDonalds does this and John Lassiter is a great example at Disney), most employers expect an employee to better themselves in order to move up now. Get a degree or two, make lateral moves to position yourself better, etc.
Gone are the days that people work for one company for the entirety of their lives...yet many people who still work with that notion that they should. I am a teacher and most of our bus drivers are making marginally more than minimum wage and more than half of them have been driving at our school for over 20 years.
I work in a technical school and I teach my students that there is honor in any job. My students are often the first of several generations in their families to seek an education and maintain employment. When the kids see the rewards of earning their own money and being a productive member of society, they are proud. It means they aren't simply cashing a welfare check or selling drugs or worse. And more often than not, they will get their relatives to go out and get a job, too...usually at Walmart. How can it be evil that a company will hire a 3rd generation welfare recipient with no skills, and give that person a paycheck?
I shop at Walmart, for the above reason, for their generous philanthropy, and the fact that I can get great prices on everything I need. I don't think they are evil at all. They are capitalism in its purist form -- and I agree with them.
Costco.
I think the lowest Costco goes is around $12 an hour and that's for stockers and such. Cashiers make $15 or more afaik - and *every* Costco employee is entitled to a benefits package that the company picks up more than 90% of the cost of.
There is no Walmart in NYC, just btw. We've managed to keep them out, despite their trying to get in again and again. They're evil.
As to the idea that Walmart and the like are some sort of stepping-stone employment that is just for kids and not adults with families - where in the world does this idea come from?
There are threads in which people discuss that college isn't for everyone and with people talking about going back to work after having not worked for decades and etc., but Walmart and other such jobs are only for teens?
Walmart employs literally millions of people. That's just them, not counting all the other big box stores, fast food establishments, dry cleaners, supermarkets, etc., etc., that employ minimum-wage workers. There aren't enough teen and entry-level young workers in the country to begin to fill those posts. Even if there were, then what do the unskilled, undereducated do for work? They're not all moving up to be managers, that's mathematically impossible.
Plenty of people attempt to support families on those wages, for years and years, because the jobs need to be filled and there are a lot of people for whom that kind of job is the top of the line.