Biggest Loser Princess and Tinker Bell 2011 and 2012 -- OLD please see NEW thread

[dumbo_buddy]

kathy nice job on the race! yeah, ok, a minute later could possibly be a little frustrating but HELLO! it was july 10th! it wasn't like you were running in the middle of october! that kind of heat would slow anybody down!

i always wondered about overeaters anonymous. what does it mean to be an overeater? i mean, couldn't really anyone say they are? our church has a meeting of OA and sometimes i really think about going. especially nights like last night where i find myself elbow deep in the peanut butter jar after having eaten loads of food prior. and i'm not talking about doing it because i'm preggo. i do that...alot

but can i live my life treating sugar as an addiction and never have ANY like an alcoholic treats booze? i don't think so. i do wish i could get some control though.

rose nice work on the 8 miles! i can't wait to start training again. i'm only doing short jogs and walks but it's all i can handle now. looking forward to reporting higher mileages in about 6-7 months.

when is mike's next interview? another phone one? and this is for the melborne one too, right? not that you don't already know but google maps tells me melborne is an hour and a half to lake buena vista - um...awesome!!!

taryn can't wait to hear about your trip!!!

lisa how cute is that pic of you and mr. galloway! when i heard him speak at the princess expo i got the impression that he's a genuinely nice guy. seems like he was just the same at your running school! it was great that he took the time to chat one on one with you. i'm really interested in hearing what else he had to say!

maria oh maria maria maria...tristan sounds...miserable. i'm sorry, that's horrible to say but you are truly a saint for dealing with her. now, i can't remember - but WHY exactly is she staying with you? i'd avoid that again like the plague. omg the TOM stuff? the poor kid, she just has no social skills whatsoever! and it sounds like her mother doesn't either. if i were you i would call the mother and 1) request a list of what exactly she can and can't have and tell her that "no bread or chocolate" is not acceptable and 2) remind her that she didn't pack anything for that child! that's BS!

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well, i posted a play-by-play of our day yesterday on the other thread so i won't post it again but suffice to say we had a really nice day yesterday. a total impromptu trip downtown! we were a little unprepared since we originally had just thought we were going to the diner for breakfast and wound up just parking outside the train and hopping on! but it was fun anyway! we walked a TON. and yet, i'm still up 2lbs. that's how much i overeat. oh well.

thomas took his first subway ride AND first express bus ride yesterday. he was so excited about the subway but then got bored before we even were out of the bronx. of course he managed to stare directly at the semi-scary folks that got on in the south bronx. lol! you know, the people you just don't make eye contact with. he was blowing kisses at them. ah, kids.

it's 7:37am right now and it's already 78 degrees and the humidity is killer. i really want to get in a walk but i'm so not feeling it today. but i feel like if i don't get out it'll be a bad start to the week. might as well get it in before it gets up to 90 today!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY LISA!!! Have a WONDERFUL DAY!!!!

7-11 - what a great birthday date! very lucky!!!

 

[Rose&Mike]

Happy Birthday Lisa!!!!!

I hope you have a wonderful day!

Maria---Hang in there. I think you are doing such a nice thing by having Tristan for a few days. And Ben and your niece will learn by having her there as well when they see how patient you and Dennis are when dealing with it all. I wouldn't be thrilled that he is leaving today at 1:00 either. And I'm thinking she can't be as sensitive to gluten as some people are or surely her parents would show more concern.

Lindsay--good luck with the fast food. I think you might find that if you give it up even for a short period of time, it will start to taste kind of yucky. I used to love mcd's biscuits, but even before I gave up gluten, I was kind of over them. Just didn't taste good anymore.

Hi to everyone else!

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We spent the entire day yesterday working on the house. I'm only jumping on now cause I had to paint my disgusting toenails in order to wear sandals to work today and I need them to dry! We have lived here since 94, and we really needed to get rid of some stuff! It's starting to feel more under control. It's funny, cause when I go back into rooms now I see stuff that I will probably still get rid of. It just took getting started, I guess. I am starting to enjoy the less cluttered look!

And I have decided I need to kick it into gear with the weight. I have been sitting at the very top of my maintain pretty much since we got back from Disney. I'm making too many questionable choices and I need to kick it back into gear and get back into some healthy choices.

Ok, out of time. I hope everyone has a fabulous day!

 

[mommyof2Pirates]

Happy Birthday Lisa I hope you have a wonderful day!!!!

Maria- Im so sorry for the headache tristan is causing. You truly are a saint for taking on a child with those difficulties. I cant remember if you said something specific is wrong with her but Im guessing there is. Im sure this would be a tad bit easier if the mom was better prepared with a list of things for her to eat, and a good supply of all she needs. Hang in there.

Nancy- Your day sounded like so much fun yesterday. I love impromtu trips. I hope you find a way to stay cool today. Its going to be a hot one.

Taryn- Hi there lady!!!! Glad you made it home safe and thanks for checking in. We will be anxiously awaiting for your return so we can hear all about your trip.

Rose- I like less cluttered too. You wouldnt know it by looking at my house though. and we have only been here since 2006. Have a great day at work today!

Hello Kathy and liesel and anyone else who may be reading.

 

[Worfiedoodles]

Happy Birthday, Lisa!

Ok, that last one was for me

I hope this day is full of pure, unadulterated joy for you!

I have to run since we're taking the subway in to get on a trolley -- just wanted to say thank you so much for the support. It is so nice to have a place where I can whine without feeling like I'm a bad person...

In old school terms Tristan would be MR, I think now they call it DS? I'm not even sure what the S stands for, but the D is developmental. Her mother is expecting that when she's 18 she'll be able to get services from the Department of Developmental Services (but surely that can't be the same "S"?) I still don't know exactly how this day is going to shake out, but I'm hoping Rose is right -- surely she must be able to tolerate a little gluten, or they would have been more specific?

I have her because my niece is visiting, and there were going to be a lot of hurt feelings if we didn't invite her for at least a few days. I get the feeling they actually wanted us to take her for the entire week, but I am not up for that. I think the mom realizes that and resents it a little. Tough nuggies. I don't see her offering to take my kid for even 2 days, and he's a heck of a lot easier to deal with...

Ok, gotta move or dh will have his own meltdown

Have a great day ladies, and Back, Taryn!

Maria

 

[mikamah]

Happy Birthday, Princess Lisabelle!!! Hope you have a fabulous day!!!

Short on time yet again. First day of summer camp, and ds is excited, but with our busy fourth of july weekend, we've thrown things to get them out of the way and then had to search for things like his waterbottle in his baseball bag in the cellar, and his epipen and benadryl safely hidden on top of the fridge. Duh. I know I should have done it all last night.

Maria-Huge hugs and plenty of pixie dust coming your way for your week ahead. Hope your fridge is full of mikes hard drinks. Sounds like you'll need them.

Hello to everyone else. Gotta run!! Have a fabulous day!!

 

[lisah0711]

Good morning Princesses and Belles!

Thank you all so much for all the birthday wishes! I really can't tell you enough how much you all mean to me!

Lindsay, so glad that you had a fabulous time at the beach! And I think you did well with the eating -- taking tastes and moving on.

And, I agree with you, Rose, those WDW are scary! Nice job on the 8 miles, too!

Kathy, great job on your race yesterday! One little minute in the heat and humidity is nothing to feel bad about. How fun that you got to see some folks that you know and had your own cheering section!

Nancy, so glad that you had a good day in the big city yesterday. Looks like Thomas had a great time!

Maria, I will be thinking of you today and sending good thoughts your way. You are very kind to Tristan and it sounds like her mother doesn't really do anything to make it any easier for you except to paint a horrible picture if you don't intuitively get what you are supposed to do. If she thinks she can get her services when she is an adult why isn't she getting her services now? Ugh!

Taryn, welcome home! Glad that you had a good time and can't wait to hear all about it!

So, I'm going to share some of the things I learned at Galloway Running School on Saturday. There was a ton of information. He stood up there and talked for 3 hours without any notes or anything but you could tell that there was a plan to it. He really was nice and wants to help everyone.

The overall theme is that you should be happy when you run -- enjoy yourself, be pain free, and not feeling like you are going to die. Then he spent a long time talking about the brain and how the subconscious reflex brain -- the one that regulates your breath and heartrate, stuff you don't have to think about -- send messages to get you to stop doing things that are stressful and how you have to get control of the reflex brain through the conscious brain. There is a lot of chemistry and hormonal soup in your brain, especially when you are running.

Next he talked about endurance is the key to being a successful long distance runner. If you've seen his newer training plans on the RunDisney site you will see that he now wants you to go to 17 miles on your long run for a half if you are training for time. You will continue to gain time in your half if you train between 14 and 17 miles as your longest run is 3 weeks before race day. Over 17 miles and you will start to lose time. That was one of my issues I think that I never went over 10 miles in my training.

He then talked about the Magic Mile (MM) and the ratios for the various paces and explained how to use the MM to predict your race pace as well as determine the pace for your long runs. The training pace for your long runs should be 1.2 x MM plus 2 min/mile. So if your MM was 14 minute mile, your long run training pace would be 18.8 (1.2 x 14) plus 2 minutes -- so you don't have to worry about being slow for your long runs. In addition you add 30 seconds for each 5 degrees the temperature is over 55 degrees -- if it's 65, that's another minute. All the various ratios and times can be cut in half. They are in his books and also on his site as well as RunDisney's.

For your short runs, one run should be with the cadence and acceleration (glider) drills, plus your regular short run. The RunDisney site has the best videos on how to do those. And the other run each week should be a race rehersal of 2 to 4 miles playing around with the ratios -- for example see how a 30/30 does compared to a 1/1, etc but making sure that you are used to what you have to do for that race pace. Concentrate on having a short stride, keeping your feet low to the ground and a light touch.

The good news is that once you are through your race you will keep your conditioning for up to 4 weeks. You can maintain the race conditioning by doing one long run (17 miles for the 1/2) every three weeks, alternating with MM and race rehersals for long runs and continuing to work on the drills during the short runs. Or doing one long run of 10 miles every other week.

Then we spent a lot of time on nutrition and fat burning. He recommends the book "The End of Overeating." Maybe it's Pamela who has read it? I will have to check it out. The key to fat burning is walking adding more steps or activity to your day and making sure that you have a calorie deficit. So he recommends a pedometer and doing those 10,000 steps a day. He also is big on journaling. He said studies show that people will eat less if they write everything down even if they never look at what they wrote down again. There are alot of studies that back up the journaling thing -- I know that is one thing that I have to faithfully do because I am a bit sloppy with it.

There was a discussion about mental training and different things you can do to trick your brain into getting you through a wall or an ache or pain. This was very similar to what is in his book on running. He has a whole book on mental training for races now. But amazingly there were no books for sale anywhere at the Expo or at the school and no big plugs for any of them.

It was a great experience and I'm glad that I did it. We also get priority email access so we can email him any time that we have a question during our training.

Tonight I am going to an introduction on a training class through my local running store that would take me through my half in September. Now I am torn whether to do that just go with the Galloway on my own. I'll have to see how much leeway they give us to do our own pace on this deal -- I like the local because it's two short runs on T/Th night and one long run Saturday morning so you'd have to show!

Have a great day!

PS Aww, isn't that nice even the poof fairy tried to visit me on my birthday!

 

[dumbo_buddy]

lisa thank you for sharing this information. it sounds like you learned a great deal.

the thing that stands out the most for me is how you shouldn't feel like you're going to die when you run. ok, i don't always feel that way but pretty much at least once during every run (even short ones) i think to myself "i want to die" and then add a bunch of expletives to the end of that though.

i have never done any tempo or different speeds or anything like that on my runs. basically i have one speed and that is whatever speed it takes me to get to the end of my run.

i'm interested in the end of overeating book. i wonder if it's available online as an e-book? i'm going to check the library for that.

thanks again for all the info! i'm going to go back and read it again

 

[dumbo_buddy]

ok i've been thinking more about what jeff galloway has to say...17 miles before a half marathon??? i'm not saying he's wrong but i'm saying he's crazy!!! lol! kidding! wow! 17!

i have just been wasting time on the DIS reading trip reports from people who ran the WDW marathon and i thought, wow, if mr. galloway wants you to run 17 miles before a half marathon, i wonder what he'd like you to run before a full? i kinda sorta followed the hal hidgon plan and my longest run was only 10 miles. i was under the impression that 10 was ok because your training/adrenaline would get you the rest of the way. really interesting stuff!

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registration is open for the princess 2012 - who is running it?? maria? rose? i really wish i could do it. by then the baby will be 3 months-ish and too young for me to leave for a weekend. and by that i mean too young for me to leave DH alone with two kids for a weekend! lol!

i think the hershey half will be my next big race - oct 2012. i'm thinking it would be a fun meet-up for us gals...whatcha think?

 

[mommyof2Pirates]

Hi ladies,

Maria I hope your day isnt too crazy with the kids.

Lisa- thanks for all that great advice. I will need to refer back to that a few times.

Nancy- I think I definitely can make hershey 2012 work. That race seems like it would be alot of fun and a great weekend away for the family. I got deeply saddened when I saw the email for the princess....I would love to be there but financially I have to be responsible and defer.

Oh its been nuts back at work. I really dont have the time to be on here but I needed a quick break. I have been working non stop since I got here. I havent eaten lunch. I did have a piece of banana bread though.

 

[Rose&Mike]

Nancy--I really think you should look at some of the run/walk intervals. I'm not talking the short ones, but like yesterday we did run 5 walk 45 sec. There was a short time around mile 6 when I was tired, but for the most part it was pretty pleasant. And I was running right around a 9:00 minute mile for the last mile. Our overall time for 8 was an average pace of 10:30. (Remember this was a long training run, so we were supposed to be going slow.) The point being that even after 7 miles, with the breaks and the so so training this spring, I was able to pull out a fast last mile. Mentally, it's a big shift, but I don't think I would be running right now if I hadn't switched at least for now. This is much easier on my itband and my lungs! And I am a huge believer in running at least 13 miles before a half. If you are young (20s or early 30s) maybe the race day adrenaline will get you through those last 3, but I feel like for us older folks, there is a greater risk of injury/issues if your body is not ready for those last 3 miles. Anyhow, just my 2 cents.

Lisa--sounds like it was lots of fun. I think Mike would really enjoy one of those workshops.

Kathy--hope Michael had fun at camp.

Lindsay--hope you survived work!

Maria--hope you survived today!

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So, Mike is going to Melbourne to interview on Friday, July 29. (I am both thrilled and terrified right now!) They will pay for one night in a hotel and Mike's plane ticket. They suggested he look at flying into MCO--more options. Now we have to decide if I am going to go or not. If I go we will pay for an extra night in a hotel. Before the air conditioning debacle I had planned on going. But now, I'm not so sure. It's an extra plane ticket and an extra night in a hotel. Plus meals. He will get reimbursed for some stuff, but not all of it. Add to that, it's probably Tom's last weekend in this house if we move. To me that's a huge deal. We've lived here since Tom was 3, and while he's excited for us, it's all still a little emotional. We've been in the Cocoa Beach/Brevard County/space coast area before, so I am familiar with it, so do I really need to see it to be convinced it's a good idea????? I figure the weekend will end up costing us in the area of $500-$700.

This is all a really good problem to have, I'm just on overload right now with all this stuff. I get a little crazy when I have too many decisions to make--like I will make the wrong one and something catastropic will happen. I guess that's the key--nothing catastropic is going to happen. Add to that my boss telling me today about all these plans and things we are going to do. Long day. She is out of the office until next week, so at least that pressure is off me a little.

Ok, that's it for now. I might be back later.

 

[liesel]

Hello to the princesses and fellow

So I posted on the main thread my tale of DH leaving on a business trip-two kids with the stomach flu-cleaning-sleep depravation-no exercise-I eventually got a little sick adventure that was my week. I haven't had any exercise since my race last Monday and hope to get back soon.

I forgot to mention that we did see Cars 2 opening weekend and the kids really enjoyed it. Cars isn't my favorite, but it was nice to see a Pixar film that didn't make me bawl uncontrollably (UP and Toy Story 3!). To all of you with just boys (which is most of you isn't it! ), I recommend Tangled and Princess and the Frog-I loved them both. I really like being able to see girlie things with DD and get my sci fi geek on with DS (still working on getting into Star Trek, though!).

Both kids are in for the kids races at the Tink weekend. I mentioned how I was thinking of wearing pirate accessories and now they want them too! So we are going to be a pirate family for race weekend. The kids are leaning more towards POTC than the Neverland pirates, but oh well. I can't do the Princess next year since I am doing this race, but it would be fantastic if more of you could join the Lisabelles! I feel a little guilty that DH is left out of race weekend right now, he'll be watching the kids while I run. We are not doing the 5K because its at 10:30 at night (way too late for the kids-11:30 our time!) on Friday, we'll be flying in Friday morning. Its also $99 per person! It includes a park ticket that we wouldn't need because we'll have our APs. So $400 for our family to run a race together is way too steep. I would really love to do a half with DH, so maybe the W&D may be in our future someday! Although I don't think the kids would like it if we went to WDW without them!

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Maria and Lisa-Another Daily Show and Colbert Report fan here!

Maria-Wow, you really have your hands full this week! Poor Tristan, I hope she gets the help she needs. That is so fantastic of you to take this on! Enjoy your low key adventures this week!

Lisa- I hope you are enjoying your day. Thanks so much for all of the information about your day with Galloway! That's really interesting that he is such a proponent of slow long distance runs. 17 miles is far-does he still recommend a long run of 14 on the to finish plan? I know I need to do another MM soon, just as soon as I can get a couple of weeks of consistent running in. I was wondering what tips he gave you concerning your princess experience. Thanks for sharing!

Nancy-Nice cardboard safari Mickey! I read all about your adventures on the main thread and I'm glad you had a great weekend.

Lindsay-I'm so jealous that you went to the beach! I'm glad you had a great time. I miss the beach so much being landlocked. Thanks for coaching this week.

Rose-Good luck to Mike on his interview. How exciting and scary, but in a good way! Its so great of you to start organizing now rather than when its moving time. Then you'd be looking at the stuff thinking, "why do I have this?!" and then, "no time to go through it now so I guess its coming with us!" Many headaches will be saved. When we moved from CA to WA I didn't give notice until after DH had his offer. I gave them a good 6 weeks notice, which I felt was very generous. I quit 2 weeks before we moved, even though we had a relocation package and movers (so nice!), and we took a few days to enjoy the area before we left. It also made moving much less stressful.

Kathy-Great job on the race! Having just experienced miserable heat during a race, it makes a HUGE difference and you rocked it! I'm glad you and Michael enjoyed Zookeeper.

Taryn-Welcome back! Good luck with studying!

 

[mommyof2Pirates]

Ok Rose heres how I would look at this situation.

1. If you have the extra 500 or so dollars and it wont be taken from something else that you need to do than I say dont worry about the bucks...you only live once and you cant take the money with you. Although this could be the reason I dont have much money right now...I think I follow this motto a little too often.

2. Tom might enjoy a night or two alone in the old house. You could always do something special the last night you have together either way it will be special and im sure leaving a night or so early will not be the end of the world in his eyes. But it may be for you. So if so and you think thats all that will be on your mind while your away than maybe it would be best just to stay back.

3. you probably really could use to get away for a few days especially with all the cleaning out you are doing and even though you are familiar with it seeing the area may just give you even more confidence in the decision if/when the time comes.

ok so thats how I would like at it. Its so exciting that mike is getting this opportunity I really hope it works out for you.

Leisel- Sorry for the nutty week you are having. I like the idea of you all dressing as pirates for the tink race. Thats so exciting.

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Well I made it through the first day back to work. i am exhausted and am ready for bed. Ryan got a little sunburned today at my friends house. She said they were swimming for over 3 hours straight and she didnt think to redo his sunblock. He said he doesnt feel good and has a headache so I am pumping him with fluids and Im going to go cuddle with him for a little. Cuddling with mommy always makes it better. Gosh I love this age.

 

[mikamah]

just a quick good morning, and hope you all have a fabulous day!!

 

[Worfiedoodles]

Good Morning and !

Whew! I survived Day One. At 6pm tonight we get to hand Tristan back into the custody of her parents. It would not be an exaggeration to say we are looking forward to it

Kathy -- How is Michael settling in at camp? Do they have any water activities planned to beat this heat? I really wish we did...we have free tickets for a Boston Harbor cruise today, but we can't use them because Tristan won't go on a boat. She doesn't like anything to do with water, which means my other brilliant idea, Water Country, is out.

Lisa -- I didn't realize you had a dd! This is great and will take some of the pressure off of Taryn, as she only has 2 girls and we have many boys needing Disney wives One of the things we did yesterday was go up in the Custom House, which has a huge clock tower and lookout over Boston. All the kids loved it (Tristan was ok as long as she stayed back from the edge), and there was a nice breeze. The view was fabulous, and since Dennis joined us there after his meeting for work, my stress level went way down

Rose -- for Mike's interview! This is all good, I know! I totally understand the way you are feeling trying to decide whether to go or not. In a year, will you regret it if you do move and aren't in the house that weekend with Tom, or will it just be a vague memory and not bother you at all? That would be how I would decide, I think. I survived and so did Tristan. She had bacon, hash browns and eggs for breakfast, a Greek salad with grilled chicken (Hard Rock!) for lunch, and .... ok, we ran out of ideas for dinner and I wasn't going to let the other kids have yet another hamburger, so we all had salad and grilled chicken for dinner. I just have to come up with lunch while we're out today. I've got gluten free cereal (Cinnamon Chex, thanks for the heads up!) and fruit for breakfast, and we're passing her off over a family dinner at a seafood place in NH.

Lindsay -- hmm. Well, I wanted to do Hershey this year, and we punted only because ds was freaked about his homework schedule (yes, already). So, with a year's notice, maybe we can tell him he just has to "suck it up, buttercup"? Having Dennis already think it's a good idea is huge, I bet I can make this work! Stop and eat your lunch today! You need nourishment if you are going to go at that breakneck pace

Nancy -- I am in for the Princess! I'm waiting to register until after I do the Providence Half at the beginning of August. I naively thought I would have a better time, but now I'm not so sure. I have not lost the weight I planned, and my training is non-existent this week. I'm seriously planning a 10M Saturday to get me back on track (at a slower pace, I promise). Add me to those recommending the intervals. I'm not very good about doing it myself, but I like to once a week do alternate 5.0 and 5.5 mph every time the song changes on my ipod (yes, I know that is not technically how you are supposed to do it, but it's simple enough I can wrap my mind around it). Anyway, I do get speed gains when I do them.

Lisah -- 17M before a Half?! Ok, this is way more training than I do, but it makes sense...I don't think I can make that work before my August race since I only have 3 LRs before I do it, but I will look at his plan and see if I can implement it for the Princess. I think I would feel really good at the end if I had done 17 three weeks before Thank you so much for sharing what you learned, I am so glad you were able to take this day for you and your goals Oh, the DDS services -- Tristan lives in Maine, and I guess there the way it works is if it's a mental rather than a physical disability the kids receive their services through the schools until the get a certificate of completion in high school, and then they can access the adult services system, which includes clubhouses, work therapy, and housing situations. The mom is hoping Tristan can live in a group home and be around people her own age when she is older.

Tristan is now officially driving the kids crazy, too. She interrupts them, she can tell a 20 min story about taking her dogs to the vet, they set up a game for her and she plays 2 minutes and gets distracted and wants to do something else. Ben says it's like babysitting...and well, it kind of is...anyway, I told him it's one more day and he can do it. Tristan came up with the idea that Ben can take her to FL to visit -- she refuses to ride on a plane by herself. He was terrified, so I promised him he wouldn't have to be responsible for her. Her mom can deal with her flying.

One more quick whine -- I live 5 minutes from the airport. Literally. Logan is quite the busy place, so you can guess how often planes are flying. Every single time Tristan sees a plane in the sky, she stops, points like it's Superman, and tells us she sees an airplane. At first it was cute, then it was annoying, now it's almost comical, although I know we shouldn't laugh (and don't, I promise!). I really am starting to think the mom's assessment that we should treat her like she's 6 or 7 trended up, because Ben used to do that for buses when he was 2...anyway, just one more day and we can concentrate on more "teencentric" fun!

Ok, I have to boogie. I'm not exactly sure what we are doing today. We had planned the Harvard Museum of Natural History, but that sounded like a dud with the kids, so maybe we'll do something else.

The trolley tour of Boston was great, I'm going to send company on it every time we have new visitors.

Everyone have a great day, and again, thanks for listening to my whines. I'm actually not giving a full account, the highlights are more than enough..

I did have amaretto gelato yesterday -- so there are bright spots!

Maria

 

[lisah0711]

Good morning Princesses and Belles!

the thing that stands out the most for me is how you shouldn't feel like you're going to die when you run. ok, i don't always feel that way but pretty much at least once during every run (even short ones) i think to myself "i want to die" and then add a bunch of expletives to the end of that though.

Aww, Nancy, I think everyone has runs where they feel like they are going to die at some point or another -- I know I do. There was a lot of talk about running with what you have that day so if you felt like you were going to die and backing off didn't help, to accept it and cut things short if needed.

ok i've been thinking more about what jeff galloway has to say...17 miles before a half marathon??? i'm not saying he's wrong but i'm saying he's crazy!!! lol! kidding! wow! 17!

That's if you are training for time -- it's 14 miles if you are using the training to finish schedule. Galloway quoted a bunch of statistics they have gathered over the past 30 years with over 300,000 runners and you can gain a pretty good chunk of time by going those extra miles. Also, the folks who go the 17are stronger in the last three miles of a race and less likely to run out of steam which appeals to me because my wagon really drags at the end.

I really need that so I'm game to give it a try. Also, I know when I finally finished 13 in May it was a bit of a shock to my body so it wouldn't hurt to get it used to going farther. I think Kathy went to 14 in her training before the Princess if I recall. And believe me I never run an extra mile if I don't think I have to -- which could be part of my problem.

Lindsay, you're doing a great job of coaching this week! I loved the pledge this morning!

Nancy--I really think you should look at some of the run/walk intervals. I'm not talking the short ones, but like yesterday we did run 5 walk 45 sec. There was a short time around mile 6 when I was tired, but for the most part it was pretty pleasant. And I was running right around a 9:00 minute mile for the last mile. Our overall time for 8 was an average pace of 10:30. (Remember this was a long training run, so we were supposed to be going slow.) The point being that even after 7 miles, with the breaks and the so so training this spring, I was able to pull out a fast last mile. Mentally, it's a big shift, but I don't think I would be running right now if I hadn't switched at least for now. This is much easier on my itband and my lungs! And I am a huge believer in running at least 13 miles before a half. If you are young (20s or early 30s) maybe the race day adrenaline will get you through those last 3, but I feel like for us older folks, there is a greater risk of injury/issues if your body is not ready for those last 3 miles. Anyhow, just my 2 cents.

Oh yeah, you poor old thing, you. But that is a great point about being ready for those last miles. Mike would totally love one of those classes.

That is exciting about Mike's interview. I think you are showing remarkable restraint by not saying, hmmm, if we fly to MCO can we stay at SSR for a couple of nights?

Lisabelle, so sorry that you and everyone in your family has been sick. Be sure that you take the time that you need to recover because that sounds like it was a nasty bug.

Galloway does still say 14 miles on the to finish plan. When I told Galloway I'd been swept at the Princess he said right away that it was very hot that day, especially to someone who trains in my neck of the wood. I told him my problem was not that I could not do the distance -- but rather that I couldn't do the distance in the time under those conditions. He said what I needed to do was go and run 5 or 6 miles at the Princess pace -- 15 seconds/45 seconds is a 16MM but he said I might want to go faster, like a 20/40 or 30/30 to give myself a little cushion. And get used to how that felt and do that several times so that I could duplicate it at the race. That was one of my problems, too, I think because on the 3 miles I was at 14 MM but as the heat increased and the distance increased I slowed down -- that and the tummy problems and stop at the potty. It just wasn't my day to finish but the Tinker Bell at my own DL -- it's karma!

just a quick good morning, and hope you all have a fabulous day!!

Hi Kathy! Thanks so much for calling last night.

Whew! I survived Day One. At 6pm tonight we get to hand Tristan back into the custody of her parents. It would not be an exaggeration to say we are looking forward to it

I'm glad that you survived, Maria. I think that DS and his cousin deserve something extra special for being troupers and doing exactly what they should.

DH worked in a group home for adults all through college. It really is a good situation for everyone. It gives people a chance for independence and their own relationships and helps people to just enjoy each other when someone else is doing the caretaking role.

I did forget something very important in the Galloway information I shared -- what to do when you get behind in your training. He said it is one of the top questions that gets asked over and over so we shouldn't feel bad when it happens because it happens to everyone for various reasons.

If you get behind in your training schedule on your next long run you should still do whatever the milage is on the schedule but walk the first four or five miles and then run/walk the rest until you get to whatever the milage is for the long run for that week. Then you are caught up and continue on with the training schedule and don't worry about it.

They changed the local intro training meeting to tonight so I will have to wait to see what they have to say. I will probably do it since it would be $45 for a 10 week training since I have a $15 credit from buying my new shoes.

Have a great day everyone!

 

[mommyof2Pirates]

Maria- bless you for taking on that child. She is quite a handful and I think in the long run you will realize she will have reminded you to be so thankful that you have a healthy child. these children need so much support and many times even more support than there own family can offer. I really think that it was a little absurd for your sister/SIL (couldnt remember) to make you feel like you had to take her. She should know better and probably was just looking for a break herself. I cant say I blame her but still. She could have spent a day with you with her doing something fun with the kids and then took her back home while the others stayed. Anyway that is water under the bridge and you are hours away from getting back to normalcy and teenage fun.

Lisa- I can feel that the tink was just meant for you!!!! You have done such a great job and I commend you for not throwing in the towel. Your persaverence and determination is quite admirable. Thanks for sharing the answer to what to do when you get behind...I know I asked that one before. I hope the running group works out for you. Let us know how the meeting goes.

Hello Kathy, Rose, Taryn, and liesel

Its only tues and I already feel drained by work. Gosh its hard to take time off around here because you end up working twice as hard when you come back.

It is so hot and humid today. I think the heat index is close to 100. It sounds like its hot like that all over. Guess summers finally here. LisaH have you made it into the 70's.

 

[dumbo_buddy]

GREAT NEWS TODAY!!

i emailed runDisney a few days ago. it was a shot in the dark since i know that the marathon entry fees are non-refundable but i explained that i got knocked up and can't do the 2012 race. i just got an email back from them saying they have a new deferral policy that lets you defer a race for up to a year. basically i'll just sign up for the 2013 race and then they will refund me the 2012 fee minus a $35 deferral fee. not bad!!!

WOOT! go runDisney!

 

[dumbo_buddy]

that's it! i'm sticking to this area of the DIS and not posting anywhere else! what is WITH the moody folks EVERYWHERE??

i posted under the competition area a couple days ago that i was emailed rudisney to see about deferring. one person (that coach guy. coach of what??? annoyingness??) posted back basically saying no they won't let you.

so i posted just now with my happy news that disney is starting to be more accommodating. i said, "yay! i'm happy to report you were wrong and they actually are letting me defer." and he writes back, "not wrong, just outdated."
and some other guy goes into what disney is doing wrong.

jesus, everyone wants to complain about disney and its events all the time. look, i don't have much of a life as i'm letting someone out there in internet-land bother me but still! get a life! just say, "oh great! glad to see disney is making changes!"

/vent.

 

[Worfiedoodles]

that's it! i'm sticking to this area of the DIS and not posting anywhere else! what is WITH the moody folks EVERYWHERE??

i posted under the competition area a couple days ago that i was emailed rudisney to see about deferring. one person (that coach guy. coach of what??? annoyingness??) posted back basically saying no they won't let you.

so i posted just now with my happy news that disney is starting to be more accommodating. i said, "yay! i'm happy to report you were wrong and they actually are letting me defer." and he writes back, "not wrong, just outdated."
and some other guy goes into what disney is doing wrong.

jesus, everyone wants to complain about disney and its events all the time. look, i don't have much of a life as i'm letting someone out there in internet-land bother me but still! get a life! just say, "oh great! glad to see disney is making changes!"

/vent.

Nancy -- I know just who you mean. A couple of weeks ago someone asked about hotels for Princess, and he posted that they should just pick an Epcot one and they could walk to whichever ever one was the host. I knew enough to stay out of it, having seen him post before. Someone finally told him that there are no Epcot host hotels for Princess (and never were), and he had a comeback about how this race must not have the numbers like marathon weekend. Well, no duh, it doesn't have a Full, and a Half/Full combo!

He knows something about everything, and he shares it whether it's "updated" or not. Don't feel bad, it's not just you he's annoying and condescending towards

Very glad you can defer -- and would you believe it, Dennis feels so bad about how this week has been (abandoning me with the 3 kids yesterday, plus yesterday Tristan kept pestering me about my age, and today it was whether I was on WW because I'm fat ), that he said today if he doesn't get into Boston in 2013, he'll do the Full on marathon weekend -- that would mean I would get to be there for your first Full to cheer you on! If so, I'll be with the WISHers after DHS with twizzlers -- I can't wait!

Lindsay -- You are right, I am so thankful Ben does not have any disabilities. We are very, very fortunate. I fully realize this, I just needed somewhere to vent. Dennis just said to me, "one more hour"...he's just about done, too. She kept asking him why he doesn't make more money so we can go on a vacation this year. Ben has been complaining, even though he's still getting 4 trips this summer, and unfortunately that is how she tries to understand why Benjamin is whining. My niece hasn't said a word -- her entire family was originally supposed to make this trip, but they made two trips to my older nieces graduations, and something had to give. Although I have to admit, I did almost snicker when Tristan asked Dennis if we were poor...Luckily he had a fabulous answer about how we are actually so lucky, because we can afford everything we need and a lot of what we want -- and we can help people who really are poor. Then Ben got to talk about going to CT next week to help with home repairs and yard work, it was a nice segue. I also got to remind Ben he isn't going for free, we are paying for him to do community service for a week -- so that was good, too! See, lemonade from those lemons

Okay, gotta make sure she's packed to go. I think there's going to be an inaudible sigh of relief throughout the car when we head for home after dinner tonight.

Maria

 

[Rose&Mike]

Let me start by saying, I am not complaining and I am really happy with how everything is going, but it's all just a bit overwhelming. When we moved from MD to CA, CA to IL, and IL to KY the Navy moved us. They would even box up your trash if you let them. I still have no idea what the relocation will be like, but mostly I'm just trying to get as much of the heavy lifting out of the way while Mike and Tom are still here and I have help! Mike said he is set up to interview with 8-9 people while he is there. They said it will take about 4 hours.

And Lisa--I am seriously considering turning this into a mini-family vacation. I mentioned it to Tom last night. We all have annual passes. So I was thinking fly down Thursday into MCO and stay at DTD or the Lake Buena Vista Marriott Village. Friday morning drive to Melbourne. Mike do his thing and Tom and I will meet with a real estate agent. Friday night WDW--maybe epcot. Saturday drive back to Melbourne to look at apartments in the morning--I narrowed it down to about 6 that take pets and have short term leases. Mike is supposed to call about availabiltiy. Maybe in the afternoon look at a few more houses with the agent. Saturday night WDW. Sunday morning WDW. Sunday night fly back.

Does that sound exhausting or am I just not a spring chicken anymore??? Ok, sorry. I'm feeling pretty good about everything, just a little stressed. I'm really excited for Mike, but last night I realized that I am probably moving where I won't have a job and won't know anyone and it got a little overwhelming. I used to be really good at making friends, but not so much lately. And I know I complain about my job, but it's a place to go everyday--ok, a place to go 3 days a week.

I think today I am just in shock that this is really moving forward.

Maria--I'm glad you survived the visit!

Nancy--I'm glad you got your deferment!

Hi to everyont else. Time to get busy on something--I'm sure there is something I should be doing!