Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique or 'Ho'tique

[ajh88]

3. Although you may not like the wording, myself and others who have posted (and likely many that have not for fear of your scathing replies accusing them of being pedophiles) feel it is appropriate.
4. No one is saying that any child is a prostitute, but if their appearance causes the thought that they look like one to enter another’s mind, doesn't that make even the staunchest supporter of the practice to reconsider their own opinion, even for a second? The inability to see another person’s perspective is sign of immaturity if not a personality disorder.
6. If you are going to reply about the wording choices in some of the previous posts, don't waste your time because you are obviously missing the issue and incapable of seeing the big picture.

I don't miss the big picture - I just don't think there IS a big picture for the BBB! Geez Louise - as other posters have pointed out much more eloquently, it is *fantasy* and dress-up. Disagreeing with you doesn't make me narrow-minded - and I actually thought most responses (both pro and anti) had been relatively civil.

No, I don't reconsider my opinion of the BBB, even for a second - because if someone looks at my DD ANY day and thinks "ho" or "prostitute" that is THEIR problem, not mine (though I'd surely hate to think of my reaction should I hear someone say that). I've said it before and I'll say it again - if you do not like what the BBB does, don't go there.

Your issue was obviously larger than just whether or not some of the BBB styles were inappropriate because you have made a leap to parenting skills being directly related to whether or not you let your child go there. There's no way I can cross that chasm of logic, so I'm not even going to try anymore.

 

[allison443]

I am not defending the OP because I would never use that word in the thread title to refer to a little girl...

However, I have seen MANY discussions on these boards about buying clothes for our daughters. How many times have you seen someone say Limited Too has "hoochy" clothes, or "trashy" clothes? Or they won't shop for their tween girls at certain stores because of the streetwalker-ish type clothes that are sold there? Or they think it is terrible to allow kids to wear sweatpants with writing across the butt? Or won't allow their daughter to wear a bikini?

These are judgments as well...judgments of parents who purchase these clothes and the kids who wear them...but I guess it's okay as long as it's not a negative judgment of Disney?

 

[dramaticmissy]

we will be forgoing the BBB as well, We do however do the glitter and such on main street as a fun thing.

 

[ajh88]

I am not defending the OP because I would never use that word in the thread title to refer to a little girl...

However, I have seen MANY discussions on these boards about buying clothes for our daughters. How many times have you seen someone say Limited Too has "hoochy" clothes, or "trashy" clothes? Or they won't shop for their tween girls at certain stores because of the streetwalker-ish type clothes that are sold there? Or they think it is terrible to allow kids to wear sweatpants with writing across the butt?

These are judgments as well...judgments of parents who purchase these clothes and the kids who wear them...but I guess it's okay as long as it's not a negative judgment of Disney?

I haven't seen those threads I guess (but I don't shop at those stores, so maybe I just don't click on them). For me, this isn't about a negative judgment of Disney, it is more personal. This is an activity that my DD has participated in and I resent the implication that I have irreparably harmed my DD by letting her have...FUN at a dress-up boutique at Disney World.

Perhaps when you use the terminology for an inanimate object ("trashy" clothes) it just doesn't push the same buttons as saying a 5 year old looks like a "ho".

 

[Tiffany_MommyOf3]

It's like saying women shouldn't go to the spa because they will be pampered. Attention is put on ME and ME alone at the spa. I go because I love it. It's nice to have something about ME when 99% of my life consists of kids and what they need, where they are, what they are doing, cleaning, cooking, etc... The attention is nice. I think of BBB the same way. My daughter left feeling like a princess! She seriously thought she was a princess. We began to walk down Main Street to get pictures done with her in her Cindy dress and she was waving at everyone she saw (the little princess wave) and she turned around and saw the castle (which she has seen a million times) and this time it was different, she had that twinkle in her eye as if it were the first time she'd seen it. She pointed at it and said "Uhh my" which means "It's mine". She thought she was Cinderella and I started to cry. This was also the first time she put together 2 words to make a "sentence". She was preemie and oxygen deprived at birth and has SEVERE speech delay. She is almost 3.5 and still doesn't say words. "my" means mine... "gaga" is daddy. Things like that. So to us this was a MAJOR deal. She felt like she was on top of the world and I was speechless. It was the best day of her life and she will return to BBB every birthday!

 

[allison443]

You remind me of the mother who came up to us on the bus to AK the next day to sneer at my dd's hair (which I had re-done from the night before). We didn't take it personally as she got TONS of compliments that day, including from Mickey and Minnie!

That is really wrong on so many levels....

 

[allison443]

I haven't seen those threads I guess (but I don't shop at those stores, so maybe I just don't click on them). For me, this isn't about a negative judgment of Disney, it is more personal. This is an activity that my DD has participated in and I resent the implication that I have irreparably harmed my DD by letting her have...FUN at a dress-up boutique at Disney World.

Perhaps when you use the terminology for an inanimate object ("trashy" clothes) it just doesn't push the same buttons as saying a 5 year old looks like a "ho".

You make a good point!!

 

[Louisianafive]

maybe you should not be in charge of young girls at all if this is your way of thinking...my dd3 will be getting the fake hair...why? because she does not have enough hair to put in a bun (just enough for a very small pony tail) and she wants princess hair so she will get princess hair....she will be jasmine also why? that is her fav princess and the bigger reason is all the big princess dressy are itchey and she has lets just say a little problem with the feel of things and that would make her wig out...so jasmine it is.Will she look like a ho? NO!! she is THREE years old!!! and that is a crazy thing to say!

Of course your little girl won't look like a ho! I am sure she will be precious! My 9 yr. old also has "issues" with itchy clothing and we went with the Jasmine look.

 

[islangrl]

Why is it those who call for respect and freedom from judgement from others are so quick to deny respect and pass judgement on any one who has a differeing opinion. I was only suggesting the BBB may give too severe a look to some of it's clients and wondered if anyone else had an opinion on the subject and could discuss it as adults do but I can see that many of you are so narrow minded that you are unable to discuss an issue intelligently and must resort to personal attacks. So go back to discussing what kind of stroller to use and how to get to DTD from AK for the 8000th time.

Poor, poor Elliot! What have you gotten yourself into? I totally understand what you are saying! I'm pretty sure you're not a pedophile, these posters are turning things around on you. Not EVERY child that walks out of BBB looks inappropriate; but I was at MK THIS weekend, and OMG! The OP is right! I saw a group of 3 10-11 year olds, and 2 8-10 year olds fresh from BBB. I am NO prude, but jeez, maybe if you were Christina Aguillera's younger sister, starring in her video, this look would be okay. Broad daylight at the Magic Kingdom...NOT. I didn't even want my 2 older girls to see them, lest they get some crazy idea that looking this way is acceptable.
I'm positive Elliot was NOT calling YOUR daughters Hos, but there are certain clients of the BBB that that word, might actually not be far off the mark!

 

[Benducci]

Why is it those who call for respect and freedom from judgement from others are so quick to deny respect and pass judgement on any one who has a differeing opinion. I was only suggesting the BBB may give too severe a look to some of it's clients and wondered if anyone else had an opinion on the subject and could discuss it as adults do but I can see that many of you are so narrow minded that you are unable to discuss an issue intelligently and must resort to personal attacks. So go back to discussing what kind of stroller to use and how to get to DTD from AK for the 8000th time.

Now you are really being rude & you were not just "suggesting" anything- you were calling those children who got their hair done at the BBB "ho's" - I still find this very objectionable. You can have your opinion as to whether or not you wish to have YOUR dds' hair done at BB but to imply what y ou have, is just downright insulting.

Moderators- I really feel this thread should be closed- the OP obviously does not realize how insulting and rude his comments have been to a good number of us here. While I respect his opinion not to have his dds' hair done at the BBB for whatever reasons he wants, to insult the little girls who enjoy this event & their parents is just wrong.

 

[Louisianafive]

Playing dress up is fine - experimenting with mommy's make-up in the privacy of your own home is fine, but to parade a young girl down Main Street with ratty hair extensions, and over done blush and nasty blue eyeshadow is different. As I stated before, from the newer BBB photos on this board, it looks like they've toned down the make-up application (which is what most of us have been saying makes the girls look tacky, or worse) and the bun hairdo is quite pretty.

But think about what some other posters have been saying - the make-up and costumes get them ATTENTION - and so these little girls are being taught that putting all this stuff on makes them much more worthy of ATTENTION. It's not about being nice, and polite, and friendly, etc, it's about how you look that gets you ATTENTION.

Maybe if our girls dressed up like this they wouldnt get so much attention..........

 

[livie1205]

Of course your little girl won't look like a ho! I am sure she will be precious! My 9 yr. old also has "issues" with itchy clothing and we went with the Jasmine look.

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thank you....she cant wait to go and be a princess! she talks about it everyday....also she will be three so even in the jasmine costume (got it at disneyshopping.com) there is NO WAY she will look like a ho! It does not even show her tummy because she is so tiny.Just like with the itchey clothes she wont have make up on, not because I think it looks bad but because she wont allow it...its a touchy thing and no way will she let someone put something on her face but she will still be the prettest princess there!! SHAME on the OP ! that is as bad as calling someone a dirty old man!

 

[ekball]

Thanks for holding the flames lmillercrew, and we did skip the BBB. I am just surprised that after seeing the end result, EVERYONE doesn't skip the BBB and that has nothing to do with the $$$! It's because IMHO the BBB make-up, etc. borders on sexualizing young girls, much like the baby beauty pageants do and that is not what I expect from Disney, although with the "Hanna Montana" and "High School Musical" crap that is gaining an ever increasing percentage of Disney merchandising space I shouldn't be surprised.

Hmmm....."sexualizing" seems a bit extreme, but anyway....
We have done the BBB with DD and I simply asked them to hold the makeup. I did allow DD to wear a teeny tiny bit of lip gloss (rubbed off almost immediately), but that's it. She got the princess updo and I have to say that she looked very sweet, very innocent, and not sexualized in any way. My point is, one CAN visit the BBB and not have their daughter transformed into a Disney 'ho'. It's just up to mom and dad to speak up.

 

[talicskai]

I don't like how the children look who have come from BBB. Therefore I won't be paying to have my child look the same. We do her hair at the condo before we leave and she looks super pretty and more like the "real" princesses. I know she'd probably love the experience and defitely love the attention but I will not let her do it. My kid, my choice.

I completely agree with this ~ never in a million years will I waste money on this but if you want to ~ then go for it. I had to wait til I was 35 to afford a "spa day" so there is no way I am going to get DD9 used to it at her age !

I do admit though that most of the girls I see with the hair extensions look downright scary afterwards.

 

[JackJack08]

It is called theatrics. It's like starring in the school play. Your children wear make-up, costumes and glitter, that they normally wouldn't because it's the magic of Disney. Period.

 

[Louisianafive]

It is called theatrics. It's like starring in the school play. Your children wear make-up, costumes and glitter, that they normally wouldn't because it's the magic of Disney. Period.

This would be a good point to end this discussion on!

 

[Beth E. (NJ)]

This would be a good point to end this discussion on!

I agree. I'm locking this one at this time.