Band instrument question

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DD is playing the flute this year in band (Yay....I think). I went through the school and rented a new flute for her to use. It's pretty expensive. I've found several of the same brand and make on Ebay. Is that a terrible idea? Of course the company that was at school when she tried out said it was a terrible idea. What should I be looking for if I do buy a used one on Ebay?
 
The rental programs here are such that you pay about $20 for 3 months-trial period and if they don't like it you just return it. If they do like it you rent it for about 2 years and it is paid for at the end of that time. If you buy it outright and she doesn't like it you will have to either eat to cost or sell it again. The thing with buying on EBay is that you could end up needing all new pads, etc. and it could end up costing more. I am sure there are plenty of people that this works for but I would not buy and instrument I couldn't try first. Most music stores will have used instruments and you can check your local paper as you will see plenty for sale through those too.
 
We were lead to believe that the company that we rented from was the only company you could go through. It wasn't so. I found out after my son was done with band. My neighbor used place that was closer. The big difference was the repair policy. The company that the school pushed, came to the school weekly and would take instruments needing repair, give you a replacement and then bring it back. She didn't have that, if she needed repair, she would have to drive in to the store and I'm not sure if they offered a loaner while the instrument was out for repair. It did cost less though.

Read your rental policy also. Our payment was tallied and at the end of middle school, we could apply that tallied balance toward a new instrument.

I would check around.
 
DD is playing the flute this year in band (Yay....I think). I went through the school and rented a new flute for her to use. It's pretty expensive. I've found several of the same brand and make on Ebay. Is that a terrible idea? Of course the company that was at school when she tried out said it was a terrible idea. What should I be looking for if I do buy a used one on Ebay?

I started playing the flute in the 5th grade and eventually went on to major in saxophone performance in college. We buy and sell a lot of instruments on eBay, but I don't think I have any flutes laying around. Well I have one, but your daughter doesn't want to use this as her starter flute, and it's well out of the price range for a beginner.

Here is what I would look for. Make sure the instrument has plenty of pictures so that you can see that it has no big dents that would block the air flow. A small dent isn't a big deal, but anything that disrupts the air flow would cause it to play out of tune. You'll probably be looking at a flute that is either nickel or silver plated, those are student level flutes. If you see one with a solid silver head joint at a similar price, that will be a huge step up in tone quality.

Even if you get a flute for cheap, it won't be cheap if the pads are shot. If you're not familiar with pads, they are under the keys and they seal the holes to make the various different pitches. If they are not sealing tightly on the holes, there will be leaks and your DD will be frustrated that she can't make a very good sound. Ask the seller if they know the last time the flute has had a "repad". If they don't know, ask for detailed and up close pictures of the "undersides of the keys" or the pads. If you can see visible tears or holes, walk away! A complete repad runs somewhere in the neighborhood of $5-700 for a professional flute. Definitely worth your money when the flute is worth $5-$7,000, but not on a $75 student model flute.

Stick with Brand names. Don't buy a cheap Chinese or Korean flute, some repairmen won't even work on them because they are so flimsy and poorly made. Good brands are Yamaha, Armstrong, King, Blessing, Evette (Buffet), Selmer, Artley, Bundy, Gemeinhardt, these are the basic student models. I popped over to eBay while writing this and took a look, there are a TON of decent flutes up there, just ask good questions.

You should get her a closed hole flute. If she sticks with it, I got my first open hole flute around 7th or 8th grade and I got the one I play now just before my Sr. year of HS. Go for a used flute. Beware of the ones that say "NEW 2010 MIDDLE/HIGH SCHOOL SILVER BAND FLUTE" or "*BRAND NEW* SILVER FLUTE *BEST*" These are probably cheap knock offs.

The man at the instrument store was right, buying a flute off of eBay CAN be a bad idea, but if you do your homework, ask the right questions and know what you're looking for, there are some great deals to be had. Just keep in mind that a lot of people selling these flutes either know nothing about them or are just trying to unload them in the condition they're in. Don't get too emotionally involved and get in a bidding war, otherwise the price will go through the roof!

The best thing would be is if the seller offers a guarantee. If you have a reputable repair shop in town, take the flute there as soon as you get it and get an estimate on the cost for repairs or minor adjustments in alignment (needs to be anually anyways). The flute you buy on eBay will need repairs, but it's possible to get a good one that doesn't need as many. Ask lots of questions of the seller before placing your bid. If you have any other questions feel free to ask me!

Good luck!
 

Allison, Thank you for enlightening me on the topic. I learned a lot from you.

Susan
 
I just went through this with one of my dd's. She's going into 6th grade and this is the first year they offer band. She picked clarinet. The school sent home a list of providers and what brands they prefer, along with what brands to not get. The rental prices for instruments were from $30-43. Buying new was definately not in the budget. The band director suggested trying pawn shops. I was able to get her a clarinet made by the prefered company, for $55. The manager of the pawn shop is a musician and gave me directions to an instrument repair company. For another $90 all the pads were replaced and a few slightly bent keys were fixed. I wasn't happy about spending that much money right now, but in the long run it's much cheaper then renting.
 
If you do decide to continue to "rent to own," and your DD continues to play and wants to go on, ask the rental company about their upgrade policy. We rented my son's tenor sax, and as I approached the payoff date, I asked whether we could continue paying, or pay more, and upgrade to a better instrument (this is a not great quality student instrument, and my son is now going on to college majoring in music -- he needs a new one, but the money isn't there). They said no. So, we paid it off, and when I was on the phone with the company just checking on the payoff, I said, "I wish I could have upgraded." Wouldn't you know it, she told me that of course I could have upgraded any time UNTIL I HAD PAID IT OFF! Now that I had, I was out of luck. We did take advantage of the repair service -- that worked out well for us, and once I owned the sax, I was able to purchase a yearly repair policy (which I didn't continue because I found someone closer that did a better job, but it was handy while I had it).
 
I bought DD two violins and a clarinet on E-bay, buying brands that were known to be good. Her band and orchestra instructors all said the instruments were better than those she would have gotten through the school supplier, and I paid a lot less.

BTW, the two violins were so she'd have one to leave at school and one to have at home to practice. The second one came in handy last year because she gave her roommate in college violin lessons! (The school violin "Vincent" was her favorite.)
 
My brother is a HS band director and recommended buying used when my son started band last year. We found one on craigslist. We asked the seller to meet us at a nearby instrument repair shop. They looked it over for us and gave the thumbs up before we bought it. If the seller refuses to do that, then there's probably something wrong with it.
 
My brother is a HS band director and recommended buying used when my son started band last year. We found one on craigslist. We asked the seller to meet us at a nearby instrument repair shop. They looked it over for us and gave the thumbs up before we bought it. If the seller refuses to do that, then there's probably something wrong with it.

This is a GREAT idea!
 
We've had really great luck buying used instruments on ebay. My DS started playing clarinet in 4th grade and we started out renting. Less than 6 months later his clarinet teacher told us that he had already "outgrown" the resin clarinet we were renting and recommended that we get him a wooden one. I asked her for a list of clarinets she'd recommend and when I found a couple of auctions that looked good (with lots of pictures), I asked her to take a look at them. $450 dollars for a Leblanc Noblet. When his clarinet arrived, she looked it over for us and couldn't believe how great it was -- it was almost brand new! He's had it for 3 years now and all we've replaced is the mouthpiece.

Then this year he joined the middle school jazz band and the band director asked him if he'd play alto sax since the jazz band didn't have an alto sax player. The school offered to let him share an instrument with another student, but that meant carrying both his clarinet and sax to and from school every day if he wanted to practice at home. That's easy enough to do with a clarinet, but not so much with a sax. So it was back to ebay. I had actually posted here to find out which brands were worth looking at and I found a nice Yamaha sax for $600. When it arrived, one of the key guards needed to be screwed back on and a couple of pads needed replacing, but the music store only charged us $50 to bring it up to playing form.

$450 for a clarinet and $650 for a sax probably sounds like a lot of money, but if we had bought these new or through the companies we were renting from, it would have cost us double that for each instrument.

My daughter just started playing the violin (a 1/2 size one) and we're waiting until she needs a full size one. Then we'll see how much it will cost to either upgrade with the company we're renting from (they will apply part of the rental of the half size to the purchase of a full size one) or we'll go back to ebay and see what's out there.
 
I've purchased dd's band instruments, don't laugh, from Costco.com. We've purchased a flute and a trumpet. Both were very good quality instruments. I don't recall what the flute cost, but the trumpet was $200. We had also previously purchased a 1/2 size classical guitar from the warehouse. I think that was around $100. Right now online, they online have saxophones, but I would think as the school year rolls around, that their selection will improve.
 
DD's band director and our church Minister of Music (whose DD also plays in the band) recommended the site woodwind brasswind: http://www.wwbw.com We bought DD#1's flute from there, and a clarinet for DD#2. We have been pleased with the price, the quality, and the experience.

Use the wonderful info posted by franandaj to help you shop there as well. You can compare what you find there for new with what's out there on eBay and craigslist. They sell used instruments, too.

If you go with a private seller, I love the idea of meeting them at a music store, so you can know for sure it's not a lemon.

Don't forget to get a flute care kit also. Music stores will have them, or WWBW will have them too.
 


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