Aulani fees increase....33%...Ouch!!

[adminjedi]

I've been to the others and there is no other like Aulani! Only resort that made me feel like I was on another island. Sounds like an oxymoron but it is soo true. Can't wait to go again. I say all of this because Aulani is not my home resort either!

Glad to hear your assessment! Yes, there are many lovely, high end resorts as disneynutz said ("IMO Hawaii has many beautiful resorts and Aulani is just another one."), but not with Disney style. We are looking forward to our stay(s)!

 

[DebbieB]

What evidence do you have that DVD intentionally falsified the dues?

It would be interesting to see

The fact that top management was fired suggests mismanagement was involved. Also the halt in sales by the state. I doubt it was "accidental".

 

[adminjedi]

The fact that top management was fired suggests mismanagement was involved. Also the halt in sales by the state. I doubt it was "accidental".

That is an assumption or conclusion, not evidence.
Whether accidental or intentional, someone is usually held accountable when large, expensive mistakes are made. Just sayin'.

 

[OhioDVC]

That is an assumption or conclusion, not evidence.
Whether accidental or intentional, someone is usually held accountable when large, expensive mistakes are made. Just sayin'.

I totally agree.

If it was intentional, I believe Disney would have gotten authorities involved for a possible fraud case.

Disney has too much to loose to nickle and dime lower MX fees to try and increase sales.

It just goes to show that no one or no corporation is perfect.

I judge a person/company on how they fix/learn from their mistakes.

It is amazing in today's society how everyone JUMPS to to conclusions.

 

[disneynutz]

The truth is no one but Disney knows the specifics.

Talking to people who work at Disney a couple of things keep getting repeated and these may be backstage rumors.

Disney was caught by the State of Hawaii auditors shorting the dues amount which would resulted in a tax shortage to the State. To get back in good graces with Hawaii, Disney fired four executives, not three as reported.

The dues amount was determined by using some creative accounting. DVD and it's management is under heavy pressure to sell Aulani as fast as they can so keeping the dues low was a must.

Bill

 

[DebbieB]

Disney can't afford good accountants? They made a 33% "accidental error"? They didn't verify their figures? 5% or 10% I could believe but 33%? And the top executives were fired for this "accidental error"? Hopefully they fired the accountants too for making such a huge "error".

 

[adminjedi]

Disney was caught by the State of Hawaii auditors shorting the dues amount which would resulted in a tax shortage to the State. To get back in good graces with Hawaii, Disney fired four executives, not three as reported.

If the State of Hawaii "caught" Disney perpetrating a fraud and only required 4 firings instead of filing fraud charges, wouldn't the State of Hawaii then be a party to the fraud against the timeshare buyers? Just asking'.

 

[DebbieB]

If the State of Hawaii "caught" Disney perpetrating a fraud and only required 4 firings instead of filing fraud charges, wouldn't the State of Hawaii then be a party to the fraud against the timeshare buyers? Just asking'.

I don't think it came to that point because right now Disney would have been covering the shortfall. If they would have raised dues in the future to cover this, then it would have led to fraud against the members. Who knows, we may not have heard the end of it with the state. They were pretty ticked to halt sales for months.

 

[tjkraz]

If it was intentional, I believe Disney would have gotten authorities involved for a possible fraud case.

In this case it could be very tough to support a charge of fraud. The employees could simply allege that it was an honest error and it turns into a he-said, she-said situation. Law enforcement is typically involved in situations like theft / embezzlement where the employee obviously profited personally and left a trail to follow.

Disney fired these individuals "with cause" and withheld any separation benefits. If they want to try and sue Disney and prove otherwise, that's their right.

Most companies will carry Errors & Omissions insurance policies on workers when there is significant financial risk. In this case it's possible that an E&O policy will be paying the dues subsidy.