Attack of the Lakeshore Lodge

I disagree on RIV, it was built on land that belonged to another resort previously, but it has nothing to do to the previous occupier. Its structure, amenities, theme are completely new. I think RIV gives us a good indication on how LSL will end up being: a deluxe resort with great amenities but lackluster theming. The lazy river will probably convince a lot of people to buy there, but theme wise it will not hold a candle to its neighbor WL. There is a small chance that, being mixed use, they'd push a bit more on the theme front, but I highly doubt it, PIT and RIV set a strong precedence.
In some regard, I think LSL uses ground that is even more coveted. Many don’t realize FW goes back to 1971. 50+ years makes it part of iconic WDW history.

When CBR to Riviera happened, it could be argued skylines at least gave CBR something it didn’t have. Skyliner gave Riviera a lot of traffic from value and hotel regulars. CBR benefitted in some ways.

If LSL lazy river is not available to FW, there may be even more unhappy campers. Will FW area benefit? More restaurants? Any dedicated transportation? But they also will see their area more heavily used.

Hey Siri, set a reminder to pickup a lot of popcorn in 2027.
 

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Main entrance/lobby vs various earlier renderings (which of course may or may not be accurate). The drive "up" to the entrance has grade added. From what I understand you enter on the third floor. You can definitely see elements from the concept art in the actual construction at this point.
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Feels like Poly Island Tower grew into an Animal Kingdom Lodge size, but added a splash of Wilderness Lodge. Modern, subtle but distinctive theming, and huge and sprawling. I like it (but also makes me feel perfectly happy and content with my RIV points).
 
Surprised how many Trail's End Dumpster View rooms there will be...

Still surprised they built this right on top of Fort Wilderness.

They are not going to open up a pool / lazy river to the campers. It will be tightly controlled like all other resorts. At least they are expanding the campground pool.

I imagine that will work the other way around as well. I doubt they'll allow the LL guests to visit the Fort for things like Halloween or the 4th of July or other events that they lockdown the Fort. It will be interesting to see how they control the flow since they essentially built LL right on top of the Fort.

I know this is just my opinion, but I think that putting the A-frame buildings out in front of Crockett's Tavern is poor form. Not only is it an affront to those to have been visiting the Fort for years, but it really isn't going to be great for those staying there. You will have so much noise that it really won't be enjoyable for those folks at all. A real strange choice to me...
 
Feels like Poly Island Tower grew into an Animal Kingdom Lodge size, but added a splash of Wilderness Lodge. Modern, subtle but distinctive theming, and huge and sprawling. I like it (but also makes me feel perfectly happy and content with my RIV points).
Modern and subtle, the two things I absolutely dislike when it comes to a modern Disney resort.

But I do feel this resort is going to be pretty nice and themed in the end so I have high hopes
 
Close followers of this project will likely enjoy these current aerials courtesy of @bioreconstruct on X. Better resolution photos can be found if you follow the timeline via the X link.

WOAH in my mind I assumed the cash portion was going to turn to all DVC post COVID when Reflections became Lakeside Lodge, but this thing is gigantic and honestly looks like BWI and BWV 🤔
 
Am I correct in understanding that this picture above is basically just one ARM extension of the massive resort? I have only seen beginning construction from the MK boat to FW, and they had their scrims up. Even then, it looked huge from the water.

Like, is that one portion of the necklace that juts out for Kidani, as a comparison? If yes, holy smokes, Batman, those CMs are going to be hitting 10k steps within an hour of their shifts! Disney better bring back package delivery to the resorts, because schlepping stuff after a full park day to these rooms is going to be crazy.

Also, with a resort this size, won't they need two leisure pools? Is that planned, or still just the one and the lazy river?

I'm actually going to be at WDW during D23, but we don't have tickets or anything, just anxiously hoping for breadcrumbs. IIRC, someone went and took snaps with their phone of PIT details a year or so ago and got the information on Wailulu and stuff. Hopefully there's a mole on these boards who can sleuth for us!
 
Surprised how many Trail's End Dumpster View rooms there will be...

Still surprised they built this right on top of Fort Wilderness.



I imagine that will work the other way around as well. I doubt they'll allow the LL guests to visit the Fort for things like Halloween or the 4th of July or other events that they lockdown the Fort. It will be interesting to see how they control the flow since they essentially built LL right on top of the Fort.

I know this is just my opinion, but I think that putting the A-frame buildings out in front of Crockett's Tavern is poor form. Not only is it an affront to those to have been visiting the Fort for years, but it really isn't going to be great for those staying there. You will have so much noise that it really won't be enjoyable for those folks at all. A real strange choice to me...
What do you mean that LL guests won't be allowed to visit the fort during Halloween or Christmas? Lots of outside people come in for dinner, horse-drawn carriage rides or just to generally tour the fort at those times of year. What would stop LL people from simply walking over and enjoying the decor?
 















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