ART Service ending March 31

[bcla]

Which is likely why it is ceasing operation. They are the ones who set the rates (as far as I know).

Haven’t ridden it since NYD 2023. Not sure if the on-demand service was costing them a bunch. But I’ve been alone on an ART bus, or just me and the kiddo where we requested a ride. I did figure that they cancelled service to Buena Park maybe 2024, when I was looking to answer a question. They didn’t have any dedicated routes, but they had maybe three points they could use: in front of Fairfield Inn (on the street), across from Medieval Times, and Knott’s in front of the employment center. I used it a bunch back in 2022 to get to Porto’s and for transportation to/from my motel.

My first ride was ARTIC to Porto’s. My first experience with on demand service. We weren’t the only passengers for some time, where a few were doing to DL, including a CM. But after DL, we were the only passengers off to Buena Park. I wasn’t sure what were the economics of that. It certainly seemed convenient, but being the only passengers on a bus that wasn’t on a scheduled route seemed a bit odd. I totally get how dedicated routes work in the middle of the day, even with light use.

 

[disneychrista]

Haven’t ridden it since NYD 2023. Not sure if the on-demand service was costing them a bunch. But I’ve been alone on an ART bus, or just me and the kiddo where we requested a ride. I did figure that they cancelled service to Buena Park maybe 2024, when I was looking to answer a question. They didn’t have any dedicated routes, but they had maybe three points they could use: in front of Fairfield Inn (on the street), across from Medieval Times, and Knott’s in front of the employment center. I used it a bunch back in 2022 to get to Porto’s and for transportation to/from my motel.

My first ride was ARTIC to Porto’s. My first experience with on demand service. We weren’t the only passengers for some time, where a few were doing to DL, including a CM. But after DL, we were the only passengers off to Buena Park. I wasn’t sure what were the economics of that. It certainly seemed convenient, but being the only passengers on a bus that wasn’t on a scheduled route seemed a bit odd. I totally get how dedicated routes work in the middle of the day, even with light use.

I've never used the on demand service. I only ever used the wait at a bus stop ART service. I don't think I have used ART since 2015 and to be honest I hated it. Long waits crowded buses, etc. It is wait made me decide that it was worth the extra cost of staying across the street on Harbor.

 

[Bound4DisneyWorld]

Finding "free" at Disneyland is like trying to find a virgin in a maternity ward.

Mother Mary? Paging Mother Mary. Mother Mary, come to me.

 

[bcla]

I've never used the on demand service. I only ever used the wait at a bus stop ART service. I don't think I have used ART since 2015 and to be honest I hated it. Long waits crowded buses, etc. It is wait made me decide that it was worth the extra cost of staying across the street on Harbor.

With on demand it was inconsistent. I think their request software tried to link as many passengers together, but in the middle of the day it was difficult, and during peak times the buses were mostly being used for defined routes. But I’d wait anywhere from 5 to 30 minutes after making a request. I remember going back to Buena Park from DL at maybe 10 PM and was able to get an on demand ride, although finding the right bus wasn’t easy. At that point, there were no defined routes to Buena Park since demand was somewhat low. But then so low that they stopped.

I do remember on NYD 2023 I just wanted to go to Porto’s in Buena Park for breakfast, only to find it closed. The bus was listed as an Eldorado, which was one of their few remaining diesel buses. Almost all of their fleet was BYD electric at that point. But it was pretty easy to request a ride back to near my hotel. At peak times it could get tricky.

How this is going to affect the Toy Story shuttle is unclear, but absolutely Disneyland is going to find a way. I’m guessing they’ll lease the buses directly. Maybe hire the drivers who work the route or find another operator (like a coach bus operator) to hire and contract out operations. But the shuttle was run by OCTA before ART, and both were considered public transportation with exempt plates and some financial benefits.

 

[DLandgirlie]

So let me get this straight. People who pay upwards of $40 to park at Toy Story will have to walk or Uber from there? What about the disabled people that park at Toy Story?
What about all the key holders who only get a discount at Toy Story?
This is diabolical.

 

[bcla]

So let me get this straight. People who pay upwards of $40 to park at Toy Story will have to walk or Uber from there? What about the disabled people that park at Toy Story?
What about all the key holders who only get a discount at Toy Story?
This is diabolical.

It’s unlikely that Disneyland is just going to say the guest has to walk. OCTA used to be the contracted operator before ART, so switching operators isn’t a new thing. ART is going to have a bunch of unused buses, and I would think Disney is more than willing to lease or buy them. I recall they switched pretty much to just using the ART bus fleet (especially the BYD electrics) without the Toy Story graphics. Even then, sometimes ART would use one of their standard buses for the Toy Story line. One issue might be that ART is legally public transportation and their vehicles have exempt plates, but that’s a pretty minor detail to just pay for annual registration.

There’s also no requirement to park there. I specifically have gone to Mickey and Friends.

 

[disneychrista]

Disney has a seat on the board of ATN so they have known this is a possibility way longer than last week. There is not a chance they haven’t been working on an alternative for the Toy Story lot and possibly even for the hotels as well. Disneyland simply does not have enough parking for everyone to drive to the parks. I would be surprised if the replacement, again at least for the Toy Story lot, is not announced by the end of this month.

 

[DLandgirlie]

It’s unlikely that Disneyland is just going to say the guest has to walk. OCTA used to be the contracted operator before ART, so switching operators isn’t a new thing. ART is going to have a bunch of unused buses, and I would think Disney is more than willing to lease or buy them. I recall they switched pretty much to just using the ART bus fleet (especially the BYD electrics) without the Toy Story graphics. Even then, sometimes ART would use one of their standard buses for the Toy Story line. One issue might be that ART is legally public transportation and their vehicles have exempt plates, but that’s a pretty minor detail to just pay for annual registration.

There’s also no requirement to park there. I specifically have gone to Mickey and Friends.

There's no requirement but that's the incentive for parking for the lower tiers: the discount.

Yes, it would be uproar to insist guests walk or Uber from Toy Story lot [uber doesnt logistically make sense]. Can't wait to see the resolution.