Are you proud

Eh, that’s really not a thing in all parts of the country. It’s going to depend on state/city/demographic/personality. I consider myself quite patriotic but I only pull out the Red White and Blue on holidays or occasions that call for it. Unless you’re passing a government building or school you’d be hard pressed to find the flag flying on the regular around here. It’s not that people don’t appreciate our country really, it’s just that they don’t feel the need to be constantly “on” about it. I know I’m lucky to have been born here. I’m also aware of her faults. Neither factors in on whether I do or do not display the flag. That probably doesn’t make a whole lot of sense but you seem to be under the impression that our homes and persons are draped in the Stars and Stripes 24/7 and that’s really not the case.
In Wales little children may fly the flag on St David’s Day (our patron saint) and for sports, predominantly rugby but also football. Rugby rivalry is raucous but friendly; Cardiff comes alive on rugby international days. Football crowds can be a bit more aggressive. You will see a lot of English flags flown in some parts on England, but the people who fly them are generally viewed as, hmm how to say this politely, without upsetting people? Maybe a little rough around the edges.
Do any US states have patron saints?
 
In Wales little children may fly the flag on St David’s Day (our patron saint) and for sports, predominantly rugby but also football. Rugby rivalry is raucous but friendly; Cardiff comes alive on rugby international days. Football crowds can be a bit more aggressive. You will see a lot of English flags flown in some parts on England, but the people who fly them are generally viewed as, hmm how to say this politely, without upsetting people? Maybe a little rough around the edges.
Do any US states have patron saints?
Not as a government holiday.
 
Eh, that’s really not a thing in all parts of the country. It’s going to depend on state/city/demographic/personality. I consider myself quite patriotic but I only pull out the Red White and Blue on holidays or occasions that call for it. Unless you’re passing a government building or school you’d be hard pressed to find the flag flying on the regular around here. It’s not that people don’t appreciate our country really, it’s just that they don’t feel the need to be constantly “on” about it. I know I’m lucky to have been born here. I’m also aware of her faults. Neither factors in on whether I do or do not display the flag. That probably doesn’t make a whole lot of sense but you seem to be under the impression that our homes and persons are draped in the Stars and Stripes 24/7 and that’s really not the case.
I know I am generalizing. But it is how the US can be portrayed to the rest of the world. Like there is a cultural identity of pride for Americans, there is a cultural image about red/white/blue loving people. Stereotypes ;-)
 

I know I am generalizing. But it is how the US can be portrayed to the rest of the world. Like there is a cultural identity of pride for Americans, there is a cultural image about red/white/blue loving people. Stereotypes ;-)
There is a stereotype too of the Dutch wearing orange.
 
In Wales little children may fly the flag on St David’s Day (our patron saint) and for sports, predominantly rugby but also football. Rugby rivalry is raucous but friendly; Cardiff comes alive on rugby international days. Football crowds can be a bit more aggressive. You will see a lot of English flags flown in some parts on England, but the people who fly them are generally viewed as, hmm how to say this politely, without upsetting people? Maybe a little rough around the edges.
Do any US states have patron saints?
In Roman Catholicism, the USA’s patron saint is Our Lady of the Immaculate Conception.
https://www.nationalshrine.org/
 
I’m proud to be American, proud of my state (even though I don’t always agree politically), I’m proud of our constitution and bill of rights, I’m proud of my hometown. I think it’s healthy to feel patriotic about one’s own country. The problem is when patriotism turns into nationalism/fascism.
 
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Pride is an odd term for things like this.

Pride is when I know I've contributed to something to make it better...something substantial.

To me it's similar to being proud of a sports team. I don't play for the sports team, if I watch their games on TV and wear their logo on my clothes, am I supposed to be "proud" even if my contribution is practically meaningless in the grand scheme of things?
 
I always was. My father served in WWII and his life was impacted forever because of it, yet he was a very proud Veteran, and loved his country. I am not proud of the divisions that we are currently experiencing, but overall am proud of our accomplishments, realizing there of course, is room for improvement. State? Sure. We have a lot of good history and accomplishments here, too. Local, yes. It’s not perfect, but overall, pretty good. People care about eachother, and that’s the big thing.
 
This is whats cool about being an American, I so disagree with the people that hate or country, burn flags, tear down monuments, hate Police BUT I would fight and die or their right to do what they do.

now I am a music fan, and I also love Football and The Cleveland Browns , and to love the Browns means one thing you hate the PISSPUKE STOOLERS , And this vrs sums up my love for Country

And you can take that to the bank
That's the cowboys and the hippies
And the rebels and the yanks
You just go and lay your hand
On a Pittsburgh Steelers' fan
And I think you're gonna finally understand


 
Since it is Canada Day I will give you what is arguably the most patriotic/jingoistic thing I can remember. And of course, it was created in the service of selling beer... and a mediocre one at that.

I give you... The Rant.
 
I love my country and have no desire to live anywhere else. Proud of our amazing healthcare system, paid one year maternity leave, social benefits, etc. Proud of all it's natural beauty and it's role in peacekeeping over the years.
As a diabetic I'm proud that insulin was discovered by Canadians!
But I realize it's far from perfect - tomorrow is Canada Day and most places are not celebrating due to both Covid restrictions and in respect of the Indigenous children that have been found deceased at the former residential schools.
You can love something and still not be happy with all aspects of it.
Yes, just so. It is a disorienting time, to be sure. Today humility is in order, deep compassion and entering into shared grief, and grappling with the confusing idea of taking accountability for events we had no active part in and certainly would never perpetrate ourselves. I pray this historic and somber day, unlike any other in the past 153 years, will produce something meaningful in the lives of those who suffer. :sad1:
 







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