Are the filets really disappearing?

[kimberh]

I'm sorry, but I just can't see us eating at LeCellier...fighting the crowd, setting on top of the next tables,to not having steak. We may start eating off property. We drive anyway. Le Cellier is a steak house for Pete's sake. There sure have been some bad decisions made lately.

 

[shyjade]

I'm sorry, but I just can't see us eating at LeCellier...fighting the crowd, setting on top of the next tables,to not having steak. We may start eating off property. We drive anyway. Le Cellier is a steak house for Pete's sake. There sure have been some bad decisions made lately.

I agree! Any word if it has indeed been removed from LeCellier?

 

[Condorman]

THANK YOU! You sir/madam (trying to be politically correct here haha) win with that statement. You just made my whole moral over Disney dining become a huge amount better. This is EXACTLY what I was trying to think of this past two weeks and you just came up with a statement that deeply culminated my overall opinion.

Thanks for that, quixotic...

Of course most of the posters after you are in disagreement with us, and I understand that as well. I stated this on another thread but for some people who go to WDW, eating steak at LC, KC, YS or AP is the best meal they will have all year. It's something they plan for and look forward to, and any removal of the tried and true entrees is a serious blow to their vacation. I get that, I just don't live and die by it. I love the idea of eating at Jiko one night, Cali Grill the next, Raglan Road the day after and Citricos that night. I love ordering something different every time I go so that I can say I've tried as many things as possible and can write educated opinions and reviews on what works (digests) and what doesn't. But that's just me. Everyone has different taste palettes. I am convinced that's why the American pavilion in the World Showcase only serves burgers, fries and the like. Because once you leave FW, that is the only place in WS to get "normal" Americanized food. Disney was not ignorant to that fact, nor the fact that WDW is, in the end, and don't anyone slug me for this, an amusement park. The greatest in the world, mind you, but a theme park nonetheless.

When I first went to WDW with my family, it was around 1980 - I could be wrong. There was only the MK. I remember one afternoon my father and I drove to Kennedy and saw the space shuttle on the launching pad. It was the very first shuttle, when they were still painting the fuel tank white. Anyway, back then all you could get were hot dogs and hamburgers. Disney has come a long way and in many ways they are shrinking back to a shadow of their former self. But I'll take Boma's menu anyday over what used to be.

 

[quixoticvalue]

Thanks for that, quixotic...

Of course most of the posters after you are in disagreement with us, and I understand that as well. I stated this on another thread but for some people who go to WDW, eating steak at LC, KC, YS or AP is the best meal they will have all year. It's something they plan for and look forward to, and any removal of the tried and true entrees is a serious blow to their vacation. I get that, I just don't live and die by it. I love the idea of eating at Jiko one night, Cali Grill the next, Raglan Road the day after and Citricos that night. I love ordering something different every time I go so that I can say I've tried as many things as possible and can write educated opinions and reviews on what works (digests) and what doesn't. But that's just me. Everyone has different taste palettes. I am convinced that's why the American pavilion in the World Showcase only serves burgers, fries and the like. Because once you leave FW, that is the only place in WS to get "normal" Americanized food. Disney was not ignorant to that fact, nor the fact that WDW is, in the end, and don't anyone slug me for this, an amusement park. The greatest in the world, mind you, but a theme park nonetheless.

When I first went to WDW with my family, it was around 1980 - I could be wrong. There was only the MK. I remember one afternoon my father and I drove to Kennedy and saw the space shuttle on the launching pad. It was the very first shuttle, when they were still painting the fuel tank white. Anyway, back then all you could get were hot dogs and hamburgers. Disney has come a long way and in many ways they are shrinking back to a shadow of their former self. But I'll take Boma's menu anyday over what used to be.

I live in South Florida, so every 6 months my family would go for 4-5 day trips to the World. I remember eating the standard American food for years. Then I didn't go when I turned a teenager, and now older I have been going with my dbf for 3 years now, with at least 4 trips every year. Sure, it is not as regular and long as a lot of the people on the boards, but I share the same perspective as you do on Disney Dining. I am lucky enough to be very adventerous--the odder and more exotic, the better...even loving the simpler down-home staples. If the filet, scallops, or whichever disney signature is removed, there will always be another entree item that I will find that I enjoy. Dining at all of these different cuisines in one place is what makes Disney Dining special. It is not perfect, but it is still special--with or without its abundance of filets.

 

[asmit4]

Condorman- as for eating steak at DW being the best meal I've had all year- not a chance

I am just a picky eater. I can eat steaks at Outback, Roadhouse, Mortons, Gibsons, even Red Lobster along with seafood. I consider Outback, Roadhouse and Red Lobster to be a step up from fast food, standard chain food that we would go to for a regular old dinner on a Friday night, not a 'special occasion' type place.

Sure- it's yummy, but not in the way that an experience at Mortons or Gibsons is

I'm an equal opportunity steak eater Give me a steak from Roadhouse or Gibsons, I'll eat it Heck, in the past I've been seen at Ponderosa eating steak! LOL! (back in my college days) I love beef! It's not about losing the best meal I've had all year off the menu, it's about having steak options available on most menus. They are being removed or reduced from many menus and that is disappointing to a steak lover

 

[jamstew]

As long as I can get a filet in the steakhouses, I'm happy. If they take them off the menu at Le Cellier, I definitely won't be eating there.

 

[Condorman]

Condorman- as for eating steak at DW being the best meal I've had all year- not a chance

I am just a picky eater. I can eat steaks at Outback, Roadhouse, Mortons, Gibsons, even Red Lobster along with seafood. I consider Outback, Roadhouse and Red Lobster to be a step up from fast food, standard chain food that we would go to for a regular old dinner on a Friday night, not a 'special occasion' type place.

Sure- it's yummy, but not in the way that an experience at Mortons or Gibsons is

I'm an equal opportunity steak eater Give me a steak from Roadhouse or Gibsons, I'll eat it Heck, in the past I've been seen at Ponderosa eating steak! LOL! (back in my college days) I love beef! It's not about losing the best meal I've had all year off the menu, it's about having steak options available on most menus. They are being removed or reduced from many menus and that is disappointing to a steak lover

If you're bringing up Mortons and Gibsons then I'm assuming, and correct me if I'm wrong, that you're either from or have been to the Chicagoland area. And if that's the case, you know your meat... because that's where I live as well. If that is the case, then you know as well as I do that we can have great meals anytime we want -- and some of the best in the country.

When I go to WDW, I know what I'm getting. I'm getting Disney's version of a French restaurant in Les Chefs or Bistro, not La Tour d'Argent in Paris; and I'm getting Disney's version of a Morton's in Le Cellier. I'm not mocking anyone's expectations for wanting more from Disney and leaving more than disappointed. I know what I'm getting into and I take from it what I want.

For me, the dining venues are as much of an attraction as any ride or show will ever be.

 

[MBELSANTI]

I agree with you . I only eat steak & macaroni. So if you take the steak off the menu. I am up the creek without a paddle.

Hi there! You must be Italian because you said "macaroni" and not pasta! We call it macaroni too!

 

[MBELSANTI]

As long as I can get a filet in the steakhouses, I'm happy. If they take them off the menu at Le Cellier, I definitely won't be eating there.

I thought that Captain's Grille was a steakhouse and someone in another post said the filet is gone from there as well.

 

[jamstew]

I thought that Captain's Grille was a steakhouse and someone in another post said the filet is gone from there as well.

I know Yachtsman is a steakhouse--not so sure about Captain's Grille.

 

[tarheelmjfan]

When you go to DHS - Mama Melrose, 50s Primetime, Sci-Fi and Brown Derby are meant to complement each other not work against one another. MM only has a few pasta dishes - not the 150 possible variations you would find at your local favorite Italian spot - both because they could not afford to keep those ingredients in stock and also because of the other TS restaurants not ten minutes out the front door. Do you think 50s has too few options for entrees? It doesn't. It's part of the overall F&B system of DHS. If you look at each park as having a food court arrangement, then you have dozens upon dozens of entrees to choose from whenever you sit down at a TS - you need only choose which cuisine interests you. We see the individual menus on allears. WDW management sees the overall offering, and they're right.

That argument would hold up, if everyone in your party was fine with eating at different restaurants. At a food court, you choose your food, then all sit together. Somehow, I doubt WDW would be fine with everyone, except 1 per party, booking an ADR for themselves at each restaurant to get the meal of their choice, then carrying it to the restaurant where the last person had booked a table for the entire party size. After all, they supposedly have all those entrees to choose from. Surely, they don't equate the park's table service restaurants to one big food court. Then again, that would fall right in line with some of their other decisions in the F & B dept. lately.

Disney was not ignorant to that fact, nor the fact that WDW is, in the end, and don't anyone slug me for this, an amusement park. The greatest in the world, mind you, but a theme park nonetheless.

Personally, I think WDW gets too many free passes from some, because they're serving theme park food. WDW is much more than a theme park. It's a vacation destination! Serving mediocre hamburgers & hotdogs is fine, if people only come for a few hours to ride the rides, then go home or to another destination. IMHO, the fact that they're a vacation destination means they should be committed to serving high enough quality food to somewhat match the price they're charging, as well as give their guests a pleasant dining experience during their stay. You won't hear me complaining about their hamburgers, hotdogs, etc., because the quality & price are in line with other amusement parks. However, with the decline the restaurants are seeing, they no longer offer the best quality food for the price charged in the amusement park industry.

 

[Condorman]

That argument would hold up, if everyone in your party was fine with eating at different restaurants. At a food court, you choose your food, then all sit together. Somehow, I doubt WDW would be fine with everyone, except 1 per party, booking an ADR for themselves at each restaurant to get the meal of their choice, then carrying it to the restaurant where the last person had booked a table for the entire party size. After all, they supposedly have all those entrees to choose from. Surely, they don't equate the park's table service restaurants to one big food court. Then again, that would fall right in line with some of their other decisions in the F & B dept. lately.



Personally, I think WDW gets too many free passes from some, because they're serving theme park food. WDW is much more than a theme park. It's a vacation destination! Serving mediocre hamburgers & hotdogs is fine, if people only come for a few hours to ride the rides, then go home or to another destination. IMHO, the fact that they're a vacation destination means they should be committed to serving high enough quality food to somewhat match the price they're charging, as well as give their guests a pleasant dining experience during their stay. You won't hear me complaining about their hamburgers, hotdogs, etc., because the quality & price are in line with other amusement parks. However, with the decline the restaurants are seeing, they no longer offer the best quality food for the price charged in the amusement park industry.

No doubt. But if you think prices are high now for a small portion of meat and potatoes, what do you think you'd be paying if they really increased the quality of food and the portion size? $35-$45 per entree? The majority of people (those who do not use these boards - and trust me, there are more of them than there are of us) are fine with what Disney offers. It would never occur to them that Kona took a filet off their menu; they wouldn't know that unless you told them and wouldn't care if you did. Most people are perfectly fine with the options. It's the minority on these boards who disagree. WDW has to cater to the majority - to the tens of millions, not solely the hundreds on this thread who would like better choices at cheaper prices in more venues all year long. Disney is a global brand, not a local Ma & Pa storefront. They have everyone to consider; you and I only have ourselves.

 

[musicmama]

For those who talk about the "value" of the DDP - remember that you're paying rack rate PLUS the dining plan per night. That means, in holiday season, for a family of 3 adults in Pop - we'll be paying $129. plus $116.97 for a grand total of ... wait for it ... $245.97 a night for Pop Century ... to be a captive of the ever-shrinking menus of the Disney restaurants. Wow! (and I don't mean that in a good way) I'd be even more depressed if we were staying in a moderate or deluxe. Kinda makes driving the motorhome from PA more appealing again.

Given the loss of several of our favorites from the menus, this is definitely the last time we'll do non-free dining. The rose-colored glasses just shattered.

 

[motofox4]

does anybody know if it's just the filets that seem to be disappearing or if it's all steaks in general (sirloin, NY strip, etc.)??? TIA!!!

 

[shyjade]

does anybody know if it's just the filets that seem to be disappearing or if it's all steaks in general (sirloin, NY strip, etc.)??? TIA!!!

Just filets, for now. Unfortunately for people like me, I only order filets; I LOVE them, and now I can't get them at Disney?

 

[motofox4]

Thanks!!!

 

[TenThousandVolts]

FYI- The beef tenderloin remains on the menu at THE WAVE. I had it last night- it was yummy.

 

[TDC Nala]

For those who talk about the "value" of the DDP - remember that you're paying rack rate PLUS the dining plan per night. That means, in holiday season, for a family of 3 adults in Pop - we'll be paying $129. plus $116.97 for a grand total of ... wait for it ... $245.97 a night for Pop Century ... to be a captive of the ever-shrinking menus of the Disney restaurants. Wow! (and I don't mean that in a good way) I'd be even more depressed if we were staying in a moderate or deluxe. Kinda makes driving the motorhome from PA more appealing again.

Given the loss of several of our favorites from the menus, this is definitely the last time we'll do non-free dining. The rose-colored glasses just shattered.

Not everyone on the dining plan is paying rack rate for their room. It is possible to get a package discount.

You must pay rack rate to get the FREE dining promotion, but otherwise there may be discounts available on the packages.

 

[n2mm]

Just returned home. We stopped by Narcoossees to check out the menu and the filet and surf and turf are still on the menu. However, we did notice other menu changes. At Captain's Grill (YCG) the filet is no longer there. And at WCC the entree with peel and eat shrimp is gone too. (The shrimp is still on the skillet, though).

 

[webstah]

Anyone know of a good hotel or small condo, a cheap rental car and have a list of high quality off site restaurants for mid-October?​

Charlie's steak house on International Drive is one of the top ten in the US, everything is cooked over an applewood fire.