Anyone watching Michael Jackson's memorial?

[stahshee]

Once again I have to ask how someone can be a great dad on a 48k a month RX drug addiction. That is a crapload of meds. Not just enough to mellow you out and make you a great happy parent. I think that would of lasted Anna Nicole Smith a few months and we have all seen the video of her in the clown makeup. If you think that is great parenting then by all means MJ is the best because I guarantee you she was higher functioning then he was. Just how much parenting he was even conscious to do is even debatable at this point. I know he had some damn fine nannies thank god.

I am just horrified when I see people over and over say what a good dad he was.Just how inappropriate he was out in public, imagine what went on behind closed doors. And if he was taking that iv sleeping drug like is speculated there just are no words. I just can't believe the thought processes of some people on the dis. Some of the posts on other topics are so over the top overprotective and reactionary but serverly addicted parents are elevated to hero status. UNREAL.

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[Liberty Belle]

Did anyone catch "on the record" with Greta and Michael's nurse the last 2 nights? Transcripts and video are here:
http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/
She spoke of his relationship with the children last night.

That's an interesting interview. Very sad, though. It sounds like he was desperate when taking the propofol (or however it's spelled). He even asked for a doctor to monitor him. Sad.

 

[daughtersrus]

I only caught a little bit on the show yesterday while I was doing some house work. I was never a fan or follower but two things stuck out for me.

One was when Magic mentioned all of the family members that would be there to care for the children and left out their grandfather. I've heard that there was a falling out between Michael and his dad and that was very obvious during Magic's speech.

The other was when Sharpton was speaking. He said..."There weren't nothing strange about your daddy. It was strange what your daddy had to deal with but he dealt with it." He got a standing ovation from the crowd but I thought that he was wrong. To me, it is strange for an adult man to sleep with young children, to change one's appearance so drastically, to be so heavily addicted to prescription drugs that you have a live-in doctor...

 

[Liberty Belle]

I only caught a little bit on the show yesterday while I was doing some house work. I was never a fan or follower but two things stuck out for me.

One was when Magic mentioned all of the family members that would be there to care for the children and left out their grandfather. I've heard that there was a falling out between Michael and his dad and that was very obvious during Magic's speech.

The other was when Sharpton was speaking. He said..."There weren't nothing strange about your daddy. It was strange what your daddy had to deal with but he dealt with it." He got a standing ovation from the crowd but I thought that he was wrong. To me, it is strange for an adult man to sleep with young children, to change one's appearance so drastically, to be so heavily addicted to prescription drugs that you have a live-in doctor...

I think Joe Jackson was left out of several speeches. I noticed that about Magic's too.

I think Sharpton was probably saying it to comfort the children and I can see how his argument could be supported.

 

[mom of 3G's]

Yes, I watched the memorial and found it to be absolutely beautiful. I freely admit that the only time I would pay any attention to Michael during these last few years was when the media played him out with his outlandish activities, but during the last week I have come to realize that he really did open doors for others in the music industry. He was a remarkable musician and WOW did he have moves. But, unfortunately, he could never find peace within himself. I would never judge anybody on their parenting skills -- I'm sure there are people that would think I'm an unfit mom for my parenting skills -- so until there is a court that would find him as an unfit parent, then I don't think we can judge him. His children loved him, and really that's all that matters. He left this world knowing he was loved by those who mattered the most in his life. Say what you want about Michael, but the fact is those kids woke up this morning hurting because they lost their father and the only parent in their lives.

 

[Vixen]

Just gross.

ITA just nasty nasty!

 

[DisneyBlonde]

I watched the memorial last night, BET reran it at 8:00. A few observations:

I had forgotten how incredible MJ's voice was when he was younger. Not that it wasn't good as an adult, but it was truly amazing when he was younger.

That was the least offensive I have ever seen Al Sharpton.

Mariah Carrey wrecked I'll Be There.

It doesn't bother me that Prince was chewing gum. He's a kid, kids do that. He looked scared. He knows the reason his father had him masked in public, and now they've all been unmasked, they must be terrified.

It looked to me like Paris wanted to talk, and the comment about her forcing herself to cry is just ignorant. Her father is dead for f sake. Paris is beautiful and sensitive, and I truly hope the future years don't find her eaten up by the paparazzi.

I love Jermaine and Marlon, loved the story Marlon told. I'm not sure why Janet didn't say something.

Personally, I don't care if MJ is the bio-father or not, he is their father unquestionably. My only reason for wondering lately is 1) out of curiosity because I always assumed he was bio but the older two don't look like him, and 2) if they are his bio kids, did they inherit his talent...and if so what happens to them if Joe gets his hands on them.

It was a beautiful memorial and like all things that are taken from you, I realize now that I didn't appreciate his talent enough in the last several years while he was still here.

 

[redrosesix]

Did anyone catch "on the record" with Greta and Michael's nurse the last 2 nights? Transcripts and video are here:
http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/
She spoke of his relationship with the children last night.

That's an interesting interview. Very sad, though. It sounds like he was desperate when taking the propofol (or however it's spelled). He even asked for a doctor to monitor him. Sad.

ITA! Thanks for posting it (just a note of caution, when I viewed Part 1, it seemed like it wasn't working after a couple of minutes and then it sort of rewound and started over again)

It really seems like he was trying to turn his life around, except that he refused to do some of the tests she requested (I'm guessing that's because it would show that there were drugs in his system?) But I'm surprised that she didn't say that he appeared to be taking pain killers.

Too bad he didn't keep her around instead of getting that Dr. in -- unfortunately, I think we'll ultimately find out that MJ's death was at least partially his fault.

 

[Vixen]

Yup -- he actually wrote that song. It's also on the Dangerous album.

For anybody who's a glutton for punishment, just found them:

In Our Darkest Hour
In My Deepest Despair
Will You Still Care?
Will You Be There?
In My Trials
And My Tribulations
Through Our Doubts
And Frustrations
In My Violence
In My Turbulence
Through My Fear
And My Confessions
In My Anguish And My Pain
Through My Joy And My Sorrow
In The Promise Of Another Tomorrow
I'll Never Let You Part
For You're Always In My Heart.

That was the point when I

same here i just brust out in to tears in that part bye the end of the memorial my eyes were all puffy and red

 

[wideeyes]

everytime I think of the poor children in pain I want to cry all over again. I just hope my own daughter doesn't have to go though that pain while she is only still a child, it is the worst pain ever.

 

[mousetravel]

I watched the memorial last night, BET reran it at 8:00. A few observations:


That was the least offensive I have ever seen Al Sharpton.

Mariah Carrey wrecked I'll Be There.

I totally agree with you here. I have always liked Mariah Carey, but I think this is the worst perfromance I've seen her do. What's up with the hand going wild? I also heard that after her performance, she left the service. I thought that was pretty disrespectful. Like, "Ok, let me go do a performance, and get on with my life". I'd like to tell her, "It's not the Mariah Show."

 

[RitaZ.]

everytime I think of the poor children in pain I want to cry all over again. I just hope my own daughter doesn't have to go though that pain while she is only still a child, it is the worst pain ever.

It is the worst pain ever. Yesterday, I sent DH a link to Paris' words. He said it was difficult for him to watch because he could really relate to what she was feeling. DH's father died from cancer when DH was 7 yrs. old.

 

[momrek06]

I went to the Public Memorial Service this morning, it lasted for almost three hours. I had been crying more than my mom while at the service. When they brought out the casket.. I was in shock. I didn't know what to feel, but with the casket in the STAPLES Center, it made me feel complete inside. Around when they were taking the casket out of the STAPLES Center, I felt empty inside. I'm so depressed, and saddened -- but, Michael Jackson isn't gone. He'll live on in all of our hearts Forever and Ever and Ever and Ever.

Aside from being depressed and saddened, the Memorial Service was a memorable experience that I'll forever remember, and remember that I got to share it with my mom. I loved the music, what people had to say about their memories while they got to spend time with Michael Jackson. And then there was Paris, Michael Jackson's daughter, who said something that still makes me want to cry at this very second. Wow, that memorial was so special to go to, it was so historic, I'll always remember it, and I'll always remember Michael Jackson. He'll be in my heart, Forever.

Wow, you were very lucky to have secured those tickets. I would have loved to have been there. I had just driven by MJ's mansion in MAY when my family decided to drive to LA and do one of those STARLINE Tours. The tour guide was a HUGE MJ fan and we went right there and sat outside the gates with the HUGE wreaths on it. The tour guide had all the details to the "This Is It" tour. AND then this happens.

We have lost a MUSICAL GENIUS.

 

[momrek06]

Did anyone catch "on the record" with Greta and Michael's nurse the last 2 nights? Transcripts and video are here:
http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/
She spoke of his relationship with the children last night.

Thanks for posting that....I could not find in the interview where the Nurse(Lee) mentioned the results of the blood work she did on Michael...? That would have been very telling.......

 

[Dan Murphy]

I'm trying to figure this out, but didn't see it anywhere on this thread..

When they were showing words on the projector, and Michael Jackson was saying those words, what was that from? It seems really familiar, and it's bugging me that I can't think of it.???

They were from "Will You Be There" (from Free Willy), at the end of this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvYygjcMDdQ

Thanks for finding that! You can tell that song was very meaningful to him, as he got emotional while saying those words.

Yup -- he actually wrote that song. It's also on the Dangerous album.

For anybody who's a glutton for punishment, just found them:

In Our Darkest Hour
In My Deepest Despair
Will You Still Care?
Will You Be There?
In My Trials
And My Tribulations
Through Our Doubts
And Frustrations
In My Violence
In My Turbulence
Through My Fear
And My Confessions
In My Anguish And My Pain
Through My Joy And My Sorrow
In The Promise Of Another Tomorrow
I'll Never Let You Part
For You're Always In My Heart.

That was the point when I

Here is a thread I posted yesterday you may find interesting......

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2223696

 

[redrosesix]

Here is a thread I posted yesterday you may find interesting......

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2223696

Yup -- this is a great thread.

 

[WDWBarb]

I found myself unable to sleep much last night after I watched the service on Tivo. The entire thing was surreal and sad (but well done and very appropriate). It was like a nightmare, watching Michael's memorial service. This is something that I just didn't expect to see until I was much, much older.

And then Paris spoke of her dad, and that moment haunts me still.

I loved Michael and I always will. He certainly had problems in his life, as we all do - but there just seemed to be so much hope and love in that man's heart. Watching him always made me smile and feel better about life in general.

I am hearing so much negativity about him and his family that it makes me even sadder. MJ will go down in history as an incredible entertainer and ultimately a tragic figure. When I was young and I watched MTV just hoping that the next video would be Billie Jean or Say, Say, Say... I never imagined that Michael would suffer such a tragic ending.

And I will include the last couple of decades as part of his "ending."

I can't imagine what Michael suffered. I, like many others, believe him to be innocent of the crimes he was charged with. Others presume his guilt. We live in a country that recognized that one of the greatest crimes is to find an innocent person guilty - a crime SO heinous that our judicial system is established around the premise that NO ONE can be proven guilty unless they are found guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt.

I can't believe so many of us didn't offer Michael the same liberties that we fight to protect each and every day.

How painful his life must have been. I can't even begin to imagine how deeply it would hurt to be accused of such horrible acts and put on trial by the media and the public at large - especially if you were completely innocent of the crime.

I'll miss you, Michael.

 

[djm99]

For those that asked about the asian/african american singer at Jackson's memorial her name is Judith Hill. Here is her performance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGBavN_9gHU&feature=player_embedded

 

[Boxley]

Once again I have to ask how someone can be a great dad on a 48k a month RX drug addiction. That is a crapload of meds. Not just enough to mellow you out and make you a great happy parent. I think that would of lasted Anna Nicole Smith a few months and we have all seen the video of her in the clown makeup. If you think that is great parenting then by all means MJ is the best because I guarantee you she was higher functioning then he was. Just how much parenting he was even conscious to do is even debatable at this point. I know he had some damn fine nannies thank god.

I am just horrified when I see people over and over say what a good dad he was.Just how inappropriate he was out in public, imagine what went on behind closed doors. And if he was taking that iv sleeping drug like is speculated there just are no words. I just can't believe the thought processes of some people on the dis. Some of the posts on other topics are so over the top overprotective and reactionary but serverly addicted parents are elevated to hero status. UNREAL.

Do you copy and paste this repeatedly?
Anyways, if Paris said that he was a good dad, then to her he was a good dad. We can speculate all we want about the drugs he took, obviously there was more to this then meets the eye then personal opinion. You are not a doctor nor are you his child. You are an outsider making a comment just like I am. We can go around trying to figure what actually happened, was he a good dad, we don't know because we were not there.

Paris and her brother just lost their father, their mother doesn't seem to be a big part of this picture. They lost the only real parent they had despite everything. Listen to the emotional timbre of her voice. she is a child who lost so much. I lost a parent who some considered to be a questionable, but then again I still felt the lost keenly and my world was torn apart.

So to anyone who wants to reply to this negatively, remember we don't know a thing because we are outsiders.

 

[disneyjunkie]

No offense, but judging from your signature, you have also experienced tragic loss. One would think you would understand the pain of losing someone close to you and give enough respect to refrain from nonsensical judgment.