Anyone travel to the US after Nov 8 with unvaccinated kids?

jenna1212

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Hi there, I'd really like to hear about your experience travelling with unvaccinated kids. Was there any issue with the kids receiving their antigen test 3 days in advance? Did the US border control provide any instructions regarding the test to be taken between days 3-5?

When travelling back, did the kids do the arrival test upon landing at YYZ or YUL?
 
Hi there, I'd really like to hear about your experience travelling with unvaccinated kids. Was there any issue with the kids receiving their antigen test 3 days in advance? Did the US border control provide any instructions regarding the test to be taken between days 3-5?

When travelling back, did the kids do the arrival test upon landing at YYZ or YUL?

There certainly hasn't been much information about the test that needs to be taken 3-5 days after arrival in the US, is there?
 
There certainly hasn't been much information about the test that needs to be taken 3-5 days after arrival in the US, is there?
A real absence of information.

The clearest instructions I can find for entry to the United States is on the CDC attestation form that travellers have to fill out. There it says that unvaccinated kids travelling with vaccinated parents can get their initial antigen test 3 days before they travel. In a separate clause it states that a viral test 3-5 days is required but says nothing about if you need to report it to someone. No quarantine for this group unless positive.

I guess I just book the day 3-5 antigen test, I'd to be non-compliant and then find we're being fined or something.
 
I had read that no testing was required! That was a Canadian news article. Wow, we're going in December, we need to know!
 

And if you go on the Air Canada site, it says nothing about the testing at all. I would love to know what the online check-in attestation says. We leave on Dec. 1, so I will let everyone know our experience.
 
Here is the CDC's info for non citizen air travelers to the US: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/noncitizens-US-air-travel.html

Apparently those requirements are out of date or incomplete. It says, "
  • Stay at home or in your hotel room and self-quarantine for a full 7 days, even if you test negative, unless you have documentation of having recovered from COVID-19 in the past 90 days."
But they have already said that is not valid for children.

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said on Saturday that unvaccinated foreign nationals under the age of 18 traveling to the United States by air do not have to self-quarantine upon arrival.

CDC Director Rochelle Walensky on Saturday signed a revised order clarifying that foreign national children who have not been vaccinated against COVID-19 do not need to isolate for seven days upon arrival in the United States." https://www.reuters.com/world/us/cd...-travelers-do-not-need-quarantine-2021-10-30/


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/cd...-travelers-do-not-need-quarantine-2021-10-30/
That's the problem. There are no new clear and concise instructions for kids under 18.
 
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Apparently those requirements are out of date or incomplete. It says, "
  • Stay at home or in your hotel room and self-quarantine for a full 7 days, even if you test negative, unless you have documentation of having recovered from COVID-19 in the past 90 days."
But they have already said that is not valid for children.

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said on Saturday that unvaccinated foreign nationals under the age of 18 traveling to the United States by air do not have to self-quarantine upon arrival.

CDC Director Rochelle Walensky on Saturday signed a revised order clarifying that foreign national children who have not been vaccinated against COVID-19 do not need to isolate for seven days upon arrival in the United States." https://www.reuters.com/world/us/cd...-travelers-do-not-need-quarantine-2021-10-30/

That's the problem. There are no new clear and concise instructions for kids under 18.

That same order has instructions for children, although not concise:

Source: https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/pdf/Vax-Order-10-30-21-p.pdf

QUOTE

Children. The Proclamation excepts noncitizens who are
nonimmigrants for whom, given their age, requiring
vaccination would be inappropriate, as determined by the CDC,
taking into account global vaccine availability for
individuals in that age group. In the United States, COVID-
19 vaccinations are widely available for adolescents, with a
vaccine approved for those 16 years and older and authorized
for those 12 to 15 years of age. However, the same
availability does not exist globally. Accordingly,
considering the difficulty potentially posed to families
traveling together when some members of the family can be
vaccinated and others cannot, persons under the age of 18
years meet the age-based exception in the Proclamation.

Noncitizens who are nonimmigrants and who are under the age
of 18 years and unable to present Proof of Being Fully
Vaccinated Against COVID-19
must present a completed Covered
Individual Attestation
to the airline or aircraft operator
prior to embarking an aircraft destined to the United States.
However, as part of this attestation, children under the age
of 18 will not be required to attest (or have a parent or
guardian attest on their behalf) to having arranged to self-
quarantine in the United States after arrival. Based on the
potential difficulty that self-quarantine may pose to
children under 18 years of age especially when accompanied by
a vaccinated parent or guardian who is not required to self-
quarantine, CDC has determined that self-quarantine should
not be required. Nevertheless, children under 18 years of age
will be required to attest (or have a parent or guardian
attest on their behalf) to arranging to be tested for COVID-
19 3-5 days after arrival and to self-isolate if the test
result should be positive or if the child develops COVID-19
symptoms. CDC believes that this approach fairly balances the
interests of families traveling to the United States with
protecting the public’s health. CDC guidance strongly
recommends vaccination for all eligible children under 18.
However, given the still evolving circumstances of
vaccination for children, attestation regarding post-arrival
vaccination will also not be required for children under 18
at this time. This determination will be periodically
reevaluated.

END QUOTE
 
That same order has instructions for children, although not concise:

Source: https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/pdf/Vax-Order-10-30-21-p.pdf

QUOTE

Children. The Proclamation excepts noncitizens who are
nonimmigrants for whom, given their age, requiring
vaccination would be inappropriate, as determined by the CDC,
taking into account global vaccine availability for
individuals in that age group. In the United States, COVID-
19 vaccinations are widely available for adolescents, with a
vaccine approved for those 16 years and older and authorized
for those 12 to 15 years of age. However, the same
availability does not exist globally. Accordingly,
considering the difficulty potentially posed to families
traveling together when some members of the family can be
vaccinated and others cannot, persons under the age of 18
years meet the age-based exception in the Proclamation.

Noncitizens who are nonimmigrants and who are under the age
of 18 years and unable to present Proof of Being Fully
Vaccinated Against COVID-19
must present a completed Covered
Individual Attestation
to the airline or aircraft operator
prior to embarking an aircraft destined to the United States.
However, as part of this attestation, children under the age
of 18 will not be required to attest (or have a parent or
guardian attest on their behalf) to having arranged to self-
quarantine in the United States after arrival. Based on the
potential difficulty that self-quarantine may pose to
children under 18 years of age especially when accompanied by
a vaccinated parent or guardian who is not required to self-
quarantine, CDC has determined that self-quarantine should
not be required. Nevertheless, children under 18 years of age
will be required to attest (or have a parent or guardian
attest on their behalf) to arranging to be tested for COVID-
19 3-5 days after arrival and to self-isolate if the test
result should be positive or if the child develops COVID-19
symptoms. CDC believes that this approach fairly balances the
interests of families traveling to the United States with
protecting the public’s health. CDC guidance strongly
recommends vaccination for all eligible children under 18.
However, given the still evolving circumstances of
vaccination for children, attestation regarding post-arrival
vaccination will also not be required for children under 18
at this time. This determination will be periodically
reevaluated.

END QUOTE

Yup, read all that but it says nothing about the testing itself. Can it be a self test? Who do you report results to?
 
Watching this too. Still considering a trip with our kids the week before Christmas break. Hopefully they’ll have one dose by then!
 














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