anyone know much about unemployment

[Dznypal]

I retired from the hospital I worked for 18 years--I went back as pool which is basically on an as needed basis--I have no set hours--I fill in if there is a sick call--someone needed a day off I can work for them--if I cant work all I have to say is I cant--

so now the hospital that I work for theres talk they might be closing-
so I just thought if I would be eligable for unemployment
Ive worked as pool for 6 years

I tried doing a search but I couldnt find anything on this-
just wondering thanks
oh this is for WI

 

[midwestdee]

Personally, I don’t see any way you would qualify for unemployment benefits. You can certainly follow up with your local unemployment benefits office. Perhaps the hospital’s HR would answer your question.

 

[MrsPete]

Are you like a substitute teacher? I know they don't qualify for benefits, as they are not guaranteed any specific number of days' work.

 

[Dznypal]

Just curious as to your thoughts on why I wouldn’t qualify. I can’t remember donyiu have to work a certain number of hrs per week just wondering

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

You need to look up your state's qualification rules on unemployment.

https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/uiben/handbook/eligibility.htm

 

[tvguy]

Just curious as to your thoughts on why I wouldn’t qualify. I can’t remember donyiu have to work a certain number of hrs per week just wondering

In some states, I believe that is the case.

 

[princesscinderella]

When you get paid are taxes taken out such as federal withholding, social security and state unemployment? If so then you could be eligible for unemployment. If you just get a check for your hours worked with no deductions then you are an independent contractor and are not eligible for unemployment.

 

[Dznypal]

Great questions princesscinderella. And yes all those taxes are taken out. Basically my check stub is almost like before I retired. Except no PTO hrs or insurance I’m probably jumping the gun on this but lately more and more are disappearing along with employees that all of a sudden I realized I haven’t seen in a while. Not sure how much longer I’ll stay as pool since I’m 67 already we’ll see but once the rumors start up and you start noticing things disappearing the curiosity starts

 

[Threehearts]

I work in DC and unless you have regularly scheduled hours from which they can determine the proper unemployment rate then a person would not be eligible.

I know the rule where I live for sure because I have a little job running events aside of my work as a chef and the side job is only when they need me. All of my deductions are withdrawn from my paycheck but I do not have regularly scheduled(ex:20hours/wk) hours. None of us in this group are entitled to benefits or unemployment.

Best to check with the person who manages your per diem work. I hope it works out in your favor.

 

[CamillaF]

I live in Washington State. You would qualify for unemployment. If you had worked the min hours to qualify. It's best to check with your state. They all have different rules.

 

[barkley]

I retired from the hospital I worked for 18 years--I went back as pool which is basically on an as needed basis--I have no set hours--I fill in if there is a sick call--someone needed a day off I can work for them--if I cant work all I have to say is I cant--

so now the hospital that I work for theres talk they might be closing-
so I just thought if I would be eligable for unemployment
Ive worked as pool for 6 years

I tried doing a search but I couldnt find anything on this-
just wondering thanks
oh this is for WI

def. check with your state to see but one thing that jumps out at me on the link someone provided to your state's program is this basis for ineligibility-

• Are not able to work in a week or are unavailable for work in a week because your ability to work or availability for work is restricted. Reasons your ability to work or availability for work may be restricted include (but are not limited to) medical restrictions, a limit on the hours you can work, or travel or transportation restrictions.

by any chance are you restricted by virtue of your retirement (pension rule)? i only ask b/c i have friends who have retired and have gone back to work in 'pools' at their former employers b/c the employers ensure they don't work above the hours they are allowed to per their pension rules.

 

[DLgal]

I'm gonna say no. Unemployment usually requires that you worked a set number of hours weekly. Being a pool worker is basically like being a substitute teacher. There is no guarantee of work in any given week, so you are not eligible for unemployment. Check with your state unemployed office. They would be the best source.

 

[mistysue]

I'm gonna say no. Unemployment usually requires that you worked a set number of hours weekly. Being a pool worker is basically like being a substitute teacher. There is no guarantee of work in any given week, so you are not eligible for unemployment. Check with your state unemployed office. They would be the best source.

Interesting- what state are you in that that is a rule? In Michigan, employers pay the unemployment tax (not taken from paychecks like some states) and you are eligible if you aren't currently working and it's not your fault - if you get fired, they go out of business, lay you off, etc. They calculate the amount based on your last 6 reported quarters of wages, it has nothing to do with how many hours you usually have, just how much you usually make.
We've hired people for varied amounts of 15-40 hours for 4-6 weeks before and ended up paying them for up to 20 weeks from our "unemployment account" before.

 

[mistysue]

I retired from the hospital I worked for 18 years--I went back as pool which is basically on an as needed basis--I have no set hours--I fill in if there is a sick call--someone needed a day off I can work for them--if I cant work all I have to say is I cant--

so now the hospital that I work for theres talk they might be closing-
so I just thought if I would be eligable for unemployment
Ive worked as pool for 6 years

I tried doing a search but I couldnt find anything on this-
just wondering thanks
oh this is for WI

Did you contact anyone in your state to find out? I'm going to say after looking through the website out of curiosity, your system looks similar to the one in Michigan. Here you would qualify as long as your have high enough quarterly earnings for the previous so many quarters before the work ending event. Then if the event isn't you just leaving randomly one day, or you getting fired for cause they will determine an amount based on your previous average earnings.
But here's what catches MANY people- you have to be actively looking for work. Find out what that means now so you're ready. A few years ago I knew someone who had to spend multiple FULL DAYS in their offices, registering through various parts of their program, and then proving that he sent out his resume and was applying for jobs. If he didn't do that, they didn't pay him benefits. It was literally easier to get a job than to go through their process - he had an interview and job offer before they finished verifying that he was doing all the steps... it took about 3 months and he got unemployment for the tail 2 weeks of it while waiting for his new job to start.

Oh- also a helpful note - "Your WBR will be 4% of the wages you were paid during the highest-paid quarter of your benefit year. If your WBR is less than $54, you do not qualify for UI. The maximum WBR is $370." from that Wisconsin page. (WBR= weekly benefit rate)

 

[HashberryOTG]

I think the biggest issue is you being in a pool. You aren't full time. You aren't really part time. You're what's available when you want to work. How much unemployment are you entitled to per week? 10 hours? No hours? Yes, some states would average out these hours from the previous 'x' # of hours, but for many it simply wouldn't qualify.

 

[clh2]

i am from Wisconsin, and had unemployment due to Covid layoffs.

it doesn’t take long to file for unemployment, so you might as well apply, and is done all on-line. Worse case scenario, they say no. But, there is also the expectation you are actively job-searching while you are getting unemployment, if I recall, you need to apply for 4 jobs per week.

Depending on your location, there might be an unemployment office (sorry, I can’t remember what they are called), that might have required workshops every couple of months. The workshops help people with resumes and the current landscape of job hunting, which might be helpful if you haven’t been out looking for a job lately. Any of the required sessions or classes you take actually count in lieu of 1 application.

 

[gottalovepluto]

You need to look up your state's qualification rules on unemployment.

https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/uiben/handbook/eligibility.htm

Yup! Go straight to the horses mouth here to determine your eligibility, there are too many factors for internet strangers to be able to say if you will qualify or not.

And remember this isn’t Covid times, the state’s max benefits apply so if you qualify in WI it will only be $54-$370/week based on how much you made in your base periods.

 

[focusondisney]

But, there is also the expectation you are actively job-searching while you are getting unemployment, if I recall, you need to apply for 4 jobs per week.

Excellent point. If the OP is retired & not actually wanting regular employment anymore, unemployed insurance might not be appropriate.

 

[Dznypal]

When I retired in 2016 I could get unemployment cause the reason for leaving was put down as job eliminated not as retire so then I could get unemployment at that time I needed to put in 4 job searches which I was getting emails from job searching places I think one was called Glassdoor so I would put down signed with name of com. And turned it in as my job searches. UE took it. Now do you have to actually apply for jobs. Im
Sure I’m ahead of myself on this mostly curious if I would even qualify. Thanks for the info. I’m sure it will come in handy when the time comes

 

[Anthony1971]

Unemployment insurance (while it is state in the end) is paid by by the employer not the employee. You would need to look at the rules for any state as it is based on how much you worked in X period - if you worked full time then part time in that period you should still qualify as it is average hours. Rules will differ state by state including if severance is considers ongoing pay and if they have a mass lay off rule like closing a department or X amount of people at once as those rules will differ from general rules. Bottom line if this happens you should apply period and let them say yes or no. Look over the rules and contact them as you can appeal it if you are turned down. EVERYONE who worked X hours in X period is entitled to unemployment even a 1099NEC (gig worker) worker which is why states are so strict with who is a 1099NEC being someone has to pay the taxes normally covered by the employer which amount to about 10% of your pay. The only people that can answer you are those who live in Wisconsin and have been laid off in a similar situation and that may be hard to find.