Anyone else miss the challenge of the old fast passes?

[mickeyluv'r]

And you probably didnt get 6 headliners before.

Uh, really? I have nice fat stacks of unused FP to prove otherwise.

I also recall giving away stacks of them.

I don't ever recall doing anything underhanded to obtain them. you may say we wasted a little effort obtaining them perhaps, but it was no more effort that today, IMO.

 

[g8torphan]

Infer (verb): to hint; imply; suggest.

http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2011/10/imply-or-infer/
Infer
When someone infers something, they reach a conclusion or decide that something is true on the basis of the evidence available. If they are listening to or reading another person’s words, they come to a conclusion about what is meant even though the writer or speaker has not stated this explicitly.

Anyway....I guess the old uber users have no one to blame but themselves.
Disney would rather field complaints from someone who "wasn't able to ride splash 6 times" than from a person who never got to ride Splash at all becuase all the FP's were gone by 1pm

 

[Laketravis]

http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2011/10/imply-or-infer/

I suppose it depends on your reference; you used Oxford and I used Merriam-Webster. Luckily neither of us used an urban dictionary.


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[animalkingdom15]

I found the new system worked great today. I was done at Epcot and knew my room at CR wasn't ready so I checked the FP for Star Tours and the Great Movie ride availability, found one that worked perfectly, took the boat to Hollywood Studios and got right on,both. In the past I wouldn't have tried that and would have just used a day to go to HS.

 

[JimmyV]

Nope. I like it this way. Some people say they loved giving people fast passes and spreading the magic. The real magic would be if everyone was on an even playing field at Disney. As soon as one loophole is closed another opens up. We did not go too often in the paper fast pass days and we were the chumps that did not game the system.

I miss the days when people who put in more hours and more effort got more FPs. I never considered this an uneven playing field. And I never once felt like arriving at Epcot at 9:00, pulling a FP for Soarin' at 9:05, and then pulling a FP at TT the minute my window opened back up to be "gaming the system". Same with TTMM, RnR and ToT. Not sure how getting a FP for all three attractions was "gaming the system".

I miss sneaking up on unsuspecting adults and little kids, snatching the fresh paper FP's out of their hands and making them wait another two hours before they could get more.

Those were the days.

You can probably do the same thing now. But now you'll have to hire some kid living in his parent's basement to hack into the system to snatch away the FPs.

 

[Laketravis]

You can probably do the same thing now. But now you'll have to hire some kid living in his parent's basement to hack into the system to snatch away the FPs.

I noticed you're on a roll today.


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[Laketravis]

I miss the days when people who put in more hours and more effort got more FPs. I never considered this an uneven playing field. And I never once felt like arriving at Epcot at 9:00, pulling a FP for Soarin' at 9:05, and then pulling a FP at TT the minute my window opened back up to be "gaming the system". Same with TTMM, RnR and ToT. Not sure how getting a FP for all three attractions was "gaming the system".....

Because you're being "disingenuous"?


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[JZCubed]

no

 

[Laketravis]

I found the new system worked great today. I was done at Epcot and knew my room at CR wasn't ready so I checked the FP for Star Tours and the Great Movie ride availability, found one that worked perfectly, took the boat to Hollywood Studios and got right on,both. In the past I wouldn't have tried that and would have just used a day to go to HS.

Do you think it's because of the new system, though? I've been checking wait times all day and Star Tours/Great Movie Ride have only had 10 minute standby waits, which is virtually walk on for those two. Did you feel you needed an FP?

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[JimmyV]

I think it is laughable that someone can advocate that a system that required you to have a "runner" and to stockpile FPs in order to maximize efficiency was somehow more intuitive to the average guest that going online in the comfort of your own home and selecting your FPs.

Explain for me where the "running" comes in.

• Go to DHS for RD. Follow the CM's to TSMM. No running allowed.
• Dad gets FPs at machine. (Return time around 10:00 a.m.) Family waits for dad at ride entrance. We all enter together.
• Family rides TSMM
• Family walks to RnR. Rides standby with about a 20 minute wait.
• Family exits ride. If FP window has opened, get FP for RnR. If not, walk to ToT.
• Ride ToT. If FP was not obtained for RnR previously, get one now.
• If we are in the "Return Any Time" mode, tour the rest of the park. If not, it is probably time for the TSMM FP return.
• When returning to RnR to ride a second time just before lunch at Fairfax Fare, get FP for ToT.

Family has now ridden all three headliners and gotten FPs for return visits to each headliner with no doubling back and no running. This was a very, very typical day for us and did not involve any Usain Bolt speed or finesse.

Oh. And if this is "gaming the system", then....I win!!

 

[mom2rtk]

I won't deny that I benefited from using the loopholes in the old system to gain advantage over guests that continued to use FP- as Disney had intended it to be used. Many people did and although not the majority, enough to probably impact the availability of FPasses for other people.

It is just disingenuous for people to claim otherwise.

Could you define "loophole" as you use it above?

 

[BugsDaddy]

I found the new system worked great today. I was done at Epcot and knew my room at CR wasn't ready so I checked the FP for Star Tours and the Great Movie ride availability, found one that worked perfectly, took the boat to Hollywood Studios and got right on,both. In the past I wouldn't have tried that and would have just used a day to go to HS.

At some point in this thread someone may quote your post and tell you that you actually didn't have a good time because you didn't have a chance to ride TOT 6 times while at the park. Also, they may mention that you are "not doing it right" because you chose some more minor rides over additional rides on RRC. You can tell those people to stuff it.

 

[animalkingdom15]

Do you think it's because of the new system, though? I've been checking wait times all day and Star Tours/Great Movie Ride have only had 10 minute standby waits, which is virtually walk on for those two. Did you feel you needed an FP?

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I actually did, because I didn't know what the wait times where only that there were FP available at the time that would work.

 

[JimmyV]

At some point in this thread someone may quote your post and tell you that you actually didn't have a good time because you didn't have a chance to ride TOT 6 times while at the park. Also, they may mention that you are "not doing it right" because you chose some more minor rides over additional rides on RRC. You can tell those people to stuff it.

Nah. It is more likely that someone will say that they used a "loophole" to get those extra FPs, without really explaining what that loophole is.

 

[animalkingdom15]

At some point in this thread someone may quote your post and tell you that you actually didn't have a good time because you didn't have a chance to ride TOT 6 times while at the park. Also, they may mention that you are "not doing it right" because you chose some more minor rides over additional rides on RRC. You can tell those people to stuff it.

Just because it might not be a good time to them doesn't mean that me getting on the things I wanted pretty quickly and thus freeing my time up to do other thing didn't make it a great time to me. It situations like this that sometimes it ends up being a no win situation no matter what you do.

 

[Laketravis]

FP makes churros taste better. I swear. It really does.


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[Luckybee]

I think that people are allowed to dislike either system based on their perception of people being able to "work the system". It is no less logical than someone disliking FP+ because it doesn't fit in with their touring style. It's a personal opinion.

I think it is less logical simply because you'd be fighting against the wind. One will never ever find a system where people will not be able to get a leg up on others therefore one would never like anything put in place.

 

[JimmyV]

I found the new system worked great today. I was done at Epcot and knew my room at CR wasn't ready so I checked the FP for Star Tours and the Great Movie ride availability, found one that worked perfectly, took the boat to Hollywood Studios and got right on,both. In the past I wouldn't have tried that and would have just used a day to go to HS.

A "mechanics" question. Not a "debate" question.
Can you fill in a detail here? You say that you were in Epcot, and that you saw FPs available for attractions at DHS, and that when you went to DHS, you got right on the rides. Did you book your FPs on the app, or did you see availability on the app, but had to wait until you got to DHS to book them at a kiosk? In other words, can you explain the process you used to actually get your DHS FPs when you started your day at Epcot. Thanks.

 

[Luckybee]

I suppose it depends on your reference; you used Oxford and I used Merriam-Webster. Luckily neither of us used an urban dictionary.


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LOL !

 

[mom2rtk]

FP makes churros taste better. I swear. It really does.


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But..... but...... but...... the DL churros are better. That just doesn't compute.