Anyone concerned about the Coronavirus in WDW ?

[ww52]

Regarding cancelling trip -
We have a trip scheduled in July. While the potential for cancelling is in the back of our minds, we are going ahead with all our plans because - well, why not?

Hotel of course can be cancelled; we have airfare (United) non-refundable so not sure if we're out all of that or if we'd get vouchers or whatever. Bought our tickets through a third party site recommend by Touring Plans and bought insurance - though I have no idea what insurance actually covers.

The tickets at worst can be used at a later time (though we'd have to pay the difference between what we spent and the prevailing rate). So the ONLY thing we're out at worst (right now) is the airfare.

Now I'm not sure what happens to the money already paid on the Cinderella dinner - I assume we can get that back.

Next decision point therefore comes 90 days out since we qualify for the Club Level fast passes ($50 per person per day, 3 day min).

Anyone cancelling a trip now is being too cautious I feel. Go over and look at the crowds that lien up every morning to get into the Studios at opening to try and get a BG for ROTR. There's some pretty close contact with a sea of humanity each day!

 

[skyblue17]

I think it all depends from starting point, as well. If you live in your own home, and drive to work in your car, and work in an office with the same people every day, the idea of entering a place full of variables might make some uneasy. But when you already start in a sea of people every day, it's kinda like, what's the difference.

 

[osufeth24]

For me, I wouldn't cancel a trip unless they start shutting down airports, closing parks, or if all of a sudden this became super deadly in the states for whatever reason

 

[bcla]

Yes, his immunity and resistance could've been low because of sleep deprivation and stress. I feel for all the medical personnel trying to deal with these difficult cases.

If it was the cytokine storm cited as a possibility by another poster, it might be just the opposite. I recall a lot of SARS victims died for a similar reason when they were otherwise healthy. The virus didn't directly get them, but the overactive immune response. Sounds more like an autoimmune disorder for some patients.

 

[jsmith]

f it was the cytokine storm cited as a possibility by another poster, it might be just the opposite. I recall a lot of SARS victims died for a similar reason when they were otherwise healthy. The virus didn't directly get them, but the overactive immune response. Sounds more like an autoimmune disorder for some patients.

Rambling Mad posted a very good video on the treatment of Acute Respiritory Distress Syndrome-which is what actually kills people who have a "cytokine storm". Its quiet intensive as far as the medical personnel required, but it is possible. Its likely that the physicians who died in China died in part because there were not the tools or personnel with the knowledge to provide what was needed. Both of my parents died of ARDS-one associated with lung cancer and one with an allergic response to enormous doses of antibiotic needed to treat something else. I saw the treatment my mother recieved and had her lungs been able to recover she would indeed have been able to survive it-unfortunately she had avealor paralysis rather than just fluid which needed to drain. Basically there has to be a method of forcing your lungs to exchange oxygen while the inflammation subsides and fluid drains. Unforunately I don't see most US hospitals having the resources to treat more than a couple of cases at a time and in smaller rural hospitals not at all.

 

[bcla]

Rambling Mad posted a very good video on the treatment of Acute Respiritory Distress Syndrome-which is what actually kills people who have a "cytokine storm". Its quiet intensive as far as the medical personnel required, but it is possible. Its likely that the physicians who died in China died in part because there were not the tools or personnel with the knowledge to provide what was needed. Both of my parents died of ARDS-one associated with lung cancer and one with an allergic response to enormous doses of antibiotic needed to treat something else. I saw the treatment my mother recieved and had her lungs been able to recover she would indeed have been able to survive it-unfortunately she had avealor paralysis rather than just fluid which needed to drain. Basically there has to be a method of forcing your lungs to exchange oxygen while the inflammation subsides and fluid drains. Unforunately I don't see most US hospitals having the resources to treat more than a couple of cases at a time and in smaller rural hospitals not at all.

Seems to be more a case where treating the symptoms intensively may keep the patient alive long enough that the symptoms subside after the virus runs its normal course. However, for many of the older patients it may be that the virus itself is destructive.

I was reading some stats on this case that among patients 80 or older, the mortality rate seems to be about 10%. But for considerably younger patients it's probably not the virus that's the biggest factor in mortality.

 

[focusondisney]

I really don't think you guys are saying the same thing. A few people have been trying to point this out to you, but the recommendations from everything official I've seen (and from what makes sense to me) is to NOT go directly to the doctor or hospital if you have a fever. Going to a hospital without calling first is a terrible idea with something like this. Call your doctors office or your local health agency. They will tell you where to go and how to get there that protects the other patients and the medical staff. Even with the regular flu our local hospital has different procedures for people suspected of having the flu. They don't want you sitting around the waiting room infecting everyone else.

Obviously if you are in the midst of an emergency (ie, you can't breathe) then call 9-1-1.

Yes this exactly! I’m not saying it’s not serious, I’m saying it’s so serious don’t go to a public hospital doctor office! Unless, like you said, you are in an emergency. Not only do you infect others but you take healthcare workers out of commission for a few weeks.

Excellent posts! This is what is being advised by medical personnel. Go directly to the hospital only if you are in an emergency condition. A fever & cough are not an emergency. Shortness of breath may or may not be, so that one is a judgement call. But non medical people advising anyone & everyone with symptoms to show up at a hospital is not helpful. If you are sick CALL your medical provider for direction UNLESS it is an emergency. Besides, I don’t know any doctor’s offices that just lets sick patients show up anyway.

 

[Farro]

N/M

 

[Lumpy1106]

Not saying Corona Virus isn't a concern, but the media has blown this WAY out of proportion. There have been a TOTAL of 57 confirmed cases, most of which came from one cruise ship.. Compare that to the flu and the numbers are staggering;
Flu data
Where is the panic about the flu? Oh, but the Corona virus is more deadly? Maybe comparatively, percentage-wise...at only 2% though. If you got cancer and were told it had a 98% survival rate you probably wouldn't even lose sleep over it. It's really easy for the media to throw around words like "pandemic" to get viewers but get real, that, and that alone is their intent.

 

[morgan98]

Not saying Corona Virus isn't a concern, but the media has blown this WAY out of proportion. There have been a TOTAL of 57 confirmed cases, most of which came from one cruise ship.. Compare that to the flu and the numbers are staggering;
Flu data
Where is the panic about the flu? Oh, but the Corona virus is more deadly? Maybe comparatively, percentage-wise...at only 2% though. If you got cancer and were told it had a 98% survival rate you probably wouldn't even lose sleep over it. It's really easy for the media to throw around words like "pandemic" to get viewers but get real, that, and that alone is their intent.

Agree and I just saw a clip on CNN;s website telling people to stock up on medicines and if there are quarantines you need two weeks of food. Call your doctor and get 90 days supplies of medicines, etc. All this is going to do is clear the shelves and make it harder to get supplies for those who REALLY need them, depending on what comes to fruition. We are creating a panic. In the meantime causing adverse economic impacts to the world economy as well. I feel we really need to focus on balance.

 

[NYCgrrl]

Not saying Corona Virus isn't a concern, but the media has blown this WAY out of proportion. There have been a TOTAL of 57 confirmed cases, most of which came from one cruise ship.. Compare that to the flu and the numbers are staggering;
Flu data
Where is the panic about the flu? Oh, but the Corona virus is more deadly? Maybe comparatively, percentage-wise...at only 2% though. If you got cancer and were told it had a 98% survival rate you probably wouldn't even lose sleep over it. It's really easy for the media to throw around words like "pandemic" to get viewers but get real, that, and that alone is their intent.

I think part of the concern is most health organizations are concerned that the world is overdue for a pandemic hence the media's interest.

 

[ww52]

he world is overdue for a pandemic

That may be. I know I'm overdue for winning the lottery.

(Sorry - just trying to add a bit of levity).

 

[morgan98]

I think part of the concern is most health organizations are concerned that the world is overdue for a pandemic hence the media's interest.

And the media is cheering it on!

 

[RamblingMad]

Not saying Corona Virus isn't a concern, but the media has blown this WAY out of proportion. There have been a TOTAL of 57 confirmed cases, most of which came from one cruise ship.. Compare that to the flu and the numbers are staggering;
Flu data
Where is the panic about the flu? Oh, but the Corona virus is more deadly? Maybe comparatively, percentage-wise...at only 2% though. If you got cancer and were told it had a 98% survival rate you probably wouldn't even lose sleep over it. It's really easy for the media to throw around words like "pandemic" to get viewers but get real, that, and that alone is their intent.

If people won’t get the flu shot, will they get a shot for the Coronavirus?

 

[ENJDisneyFan]

If people won’t get the flu shot, will they get a shot for the Coronavirus?

That’s a great question!

 

[Disneypro1]

The media is worse than the issue. Always is.

 

[Disneypro1]

Not saying Corona Virus isn't a concern, but the media has blown this WAY out of proportion. There have been a TOTAL of 57 confirmed cases, most of which came from one cruise ship.. Compare that to the flu and the numbers are staggering;
Flu data
Where is the panic about the flu? Oh, but the Corona virus is more deadly? Maybe comparatively, percentage-wise...at only 2% though. If you got cancer and were told it had a 98% survival rate you probably wouldn't even lose sleep over it. It's really easy for the media to throw around words like "pandemic" to get viewers but get real, that, and that alone is their intent.

This is 110% accurate. The main stream media won’t ever let facts get in the way.

 

[0FF TO NEVERLAND]

You know there’s an issue when the thought of having to possibly change your italy trip to coming to Disney instead excites you..

Ah get out of my head. I can’t do Disney all the time. Need to try new things. Need to try new places.

 

[RamblingMad]

You know there’s an issue when the thought of having to possibly change your italy trip to coming to Disney instead excites you..

Ah get out of my head. I can’t do Disney all the time. Need to try new things. Need to try new places.

I'm going to Glacier National Park this year. That's my vacation.

 

[mnrose]

If people won’t get the flu shot, will they get a shot for the Coronavirus?

I'm just wondering how many people in a panic over Covid 19 also refuse to get a flu shot because "it's just the flu."