Well tonyboy we are arriving on the 21st around 10 or 11 am at the BWV...after we check in we are going to the ESPN for some lunch...if you are still around look for us at ESPN..I WILL HAVE A LIME GREEN RIBBON ON AND A BIG SMILE..IF WE MISS YOU WE WILL BE BACK AT bwv 12/2-12/8..hOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT TIME...by the way they will be 4 of us.. Marianne