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jen0610

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Sorry this is going to be long. I have a very dear friend that for the last 9 months I have been her shoulder to cry on, venting post, and words of wisdom giver, but the last 2 months have gotten really rough. Right now, I truely don't know what to tell her and neither does her sister.

Long story short - Her DH of 6 years left her 9 months ago. No kids are in the picture. Says he just fell out of love with her. Just a little over 2 months, after he left, they had been going to therapy to try and work out their issues, when she finds out that he had since late 2005, been involved with another woman. There was no making it work, divorce is final.

At her sisters and my urgings, she went and got the full STD spectrum of testing done. Better safe than sorry was our logic of thinking. Every thing came back negative, accept for herpes. And this is where we are at a lost as to what to tell her.

According to her DR, seeing as she use to get cold sores, that is what could be giving the positive result and she may not have the other strand. But also according to the DR, there is no test to tell the difference between the two strands, unless there is an actual outbreak for the other strand. When she asked about outbreaks and what to look for, it makes her even more upset. Her DR is telling her that there is a % of people who have it and only ever have the initial outbreak. Then another % that will only ever have a couple of outbreaks over the years, then the other % that have regular outbreaks. If she falls into the 1st or 2nd %, she may never know or it could be years before she knows if she actually has it. And nothing she is reading is helping her, all she see is the negatives. She has been scouring the internet looking for info.

She has gone from the most outgoing fun loving person, to pulling herself up by the boot straps to get over the hurt her soon to be ex has delt her, to depression that she sees no end to. She has stated that she can't move on to trying to build a new love relationship with someone, when she doesn't know if she can give them a horrid disease. And that she may never know.

Her sister and I are totally lost as to what to say or do to help her. Nothing we say seems to help for more than a couple of hours. We keep telling her, she doesn't have to say anything to a guy she has a casual date with. Only if it is someone that she wants to have an physical relationship with, would she need to tell him and then practice safe sex. She says, she should be up front right away, so he know exactly what he could be dealing with and that if it isn't something he wants to deal with he can go on his way.

A group of just us girls went out last weekend. We actually got her to go with us. A guy, who we have known since high school, was there. Told her if she ever wanted to grab a bite to eat to call him. She FREAKED out, had to leave. She was sobbing all the way home. Couldn't hardly understand a word she said. Thought we heard the word "unclean" once, but really didn't want to push her. Her sister and I don't know what else to say or do for her. If we thought it would help, we'd take turns smacking the ex up side the head with a baseball bat for putting her thru this. The DR even told her, that if the ex would get tested and it came up negative, it would make him feel that more than likely that her positive result is due to the cold sore strand. She will not ask him to get tested, nor does she want either of us to address the issue with him. I am soo lost as to what else to do or if I, and her sister too, are just doing all that I/we can. Her sister has talked to both the regular DR and the physic dr. Both tell us to just keep being there for her.

If you made it thru this, thanks for listening.
 
She needs therapy. NOW.

I think you've said everything you can and can only repeat and reinforce what you have already said. That kind of reaction to something so positive needs to be addressed now, before she does anything to herself. While no kids is a good thing, it also means she only has herself to focus and dwell on.

The herpes thing is really no big deal at all, and I'm sure with help she can see that. She shouldn't be telling anyone she's not considering have sex with about it anyway. She's just over-reacting to it because of the situation.

Has the sister talked to the DRs about the recent night out...I think that reaction is extremely important for them to hear.
 
She needs therapy. NOW.

I think you've said everything you can and can only repeat and reinforce what you have already said. That kind of reaction to something so positive needs to be addressed now, before she does anything to herself. While no kids is a good thing, it also means she only has herself to focus and dwell on.

The herpes thing is really no big deal at all, and I'm sure with help she can see that. She shouldn't be telling anyone she's not considering have sex with about it anyway. She's just over-reacting to it because of the situation.

Has the sister talked to the DRs about the recent night out...I think that reaction is extremely important for them to hear.
Once again, I agree with you. Perhaps you could just sign in as me and make my posts.
 
Two strains.

Herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV-1)
Herpes simplex virus 2 (HSV-2)

By adulthood, up to 90% of people will have antibodies to HSV-1.
Up to 30% of U.S. adults have antibodies against HSV-2.

This site may be helpful.
http://www.cdc.gov/std/herpes/STDFact-herpes.htm

Her husband is gone at least 9 months? and she has had no outbreaks?

First she needs to get a better understanding of Herpes. Second she sounds like she is in dire need of therapy. Perhaps her sister can speak with her doctor.

You are a good friend.:hug:
 

She needs therapy to get through this.

She needs to really get an understanding of the disease. If she has gone through the last 9 months without an outbreak of any kind it is very unlikely that she has the disease. Stress brings out the herpes virus like a raging bull in many many people. Like the PP, a HUGE percentage of the population has the Herpes virus and some don't even get cold sores.

Hugs to you and your friend.
 
One more vote for therapy. She has endured enough stress this year to make the strongest person depressed. She may need some medication to help her deal with her depression, as well.

Getting a diagnosis of herpes devastates nearly everyone who has it. It's not the end of the world and a lot of people live with it comfortably. However, now is not the time to tell her that--she's not in a place to hear it. Continue to be supportive. There is really not much you can do or say to make this better. She has to grieve her losses and come to an understanding herself and that is best done with an objective third party. Believe me, it's nothing they haven't heard before.

I'm just glad she didn't have HIV :rolleyes1
 
Ugh, I feel like I'm in the same boat as you. My sister's husband walked out on her in February, they had just started therapy since they were having issues, but he claimed to love her and wanted to try to work things out. The day before he left, he was at our house, eating our food, telling my sister how much he loved her and would never hurt her. Next day, she gets home from work and he says "I don't love you anymore, and my mother needs me to come home. I'm moving out, I've called a lawyer." His mother lives 2 blocks away, for the record.

Anyway, ever since, she's been the same as your friend. Well, not the herpes part, but the same sort of idea. My sister is now convinced that if her husband, who stood under the hoopa and said he was going to spend the rest of his life with her could all of a sudden just not love her anymore, she's now convinced that nobody will ever love her again. She basically thinks she's not worth anything to anyone anymore. Which might be on a deeper level what your friend is going through, and is kind of "hiding" behind the herpes thing. Unfortunately, you can't make her just snap out of it. She needs professional help. She basically needs to relearn to trust people again, and needs to realize that she's worth something. Personally, I see the HPV concern as a way to hide from what her real emotions are. Granted, I don't know her, but going from my own experience and what you said in your post, that's just my take.
 
My friends sister and I met for lunch today. She talked to my friends Family DR and told him about the situation from over the weekend. He is going to get in touch with the therapist that she is seeing and he said he would address changing the meds that they have her on. She told him to reinterate with the therapist, that if the therapist needs to talk with either she or I, as to what we personally see or hear about that our friend/sister is dealing with, and it would help her out with treatment options, then neither of us have a problem talking to her about our friend/sister.
 
My friends sister and I met for lunch today. She talked to my friends Family DR and told him about the situation from over the weekend. He is going to get in touch with the therapist that she is seeing and he said he would address changing the meds that they have her on. She told him to reinterate with the therapist, that if the therapist needs to talk with either she or I, as to what we personally see or hear about that our friend/sister is dealing with, and it would help her out with treatment options, then neither of us have a problem talking to her about our friend/sister.

I honestly can't think of anything else you could or should be doing. :hug: to all of you. keep up the good work!
 

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