Any update on TOT incident?

[BANNISTER]

Anyone know anything on the recent incident at TOT. Heard a 16 y.o. female fell ill immediately after riding TOT and is in critical condition. Just wondering what the update on that is. We leave tomorrow...

 

[Bob P]

Latest I've seen is on this morning's park update at mouseplanet.com.

http://www.mouseplanet.com/parkupdates/wdw/wdw050718.htm

I'm not sure how old/new the info is but it says the girl is still in critical condition in an Orlando hospital.

 

[peter11435]

Anyone know anything on the recent incident at TOT. Heard a 16 y.o. female fell ill immediately after riding TOT and is in critical condition. Just wondering what the update on that is. We leave tomorrow...

What exactly do you want to know in reference to your trip. Maybe we can answer your questions.

 

[BANNISTER]

Just wondering if there was any confirmation on what caused her to become ill. I know they was talk about a possible aneurysm, but did not know if that is what happened or not. Thought I would ask before we leave just in case my kids (8 & 11) hear about it. They heard about MS and freaked out. I am hoping they do not hear about this since it sounds like it is unrelated to the ride. Once we are actually at Disney I know I won't hear since I will not have access to the Dis.

 

[peter11435]

Just wondering if there was any confirmation on what caused her to become ill. I know they was talk about a possible aneurysm, but did not know if that is what happened or not. Thought I would ask before we leave just in case my kids (8 & 11) hear about it. They heard about MS and freaked out. I am hoping they do not hear about this since it sounds like it is unrelated to the ride. Once we are actually at Disney I know I won't hear since I will not have access to the Dis.

They have not yet said for sure what caused her to become ill. However it is proven that the ride was not at fault, and that this could have happened anywhere. I should also point out that the M:S incident also was not related to the ride, and the boy must have had some type of pre-existing condition. Go have fun and don't worry about riding either Tot or M:S as they are both extremely safe rides.

 

[jswalker1981]

However it is proven that the ride was at fault, and that this could have happened anywhere.

Do you mean that it wasn't at fault?

 

[peter11435]

Do you mean that it wasn't at fault?

Yes, thank you. It is amazing how much a missing "not" changes the meaning of something.

 

[sherrycurl]

the news down there was reporting that it was an aneurysm and that the girl underwent brain surgery and that she is still in critical condition. this was as of saturday afternoon. the ride was not at fault and was opened the next morning after being extensively tested.

 

[AmyBeth68]

So sad that there have been two tragic incidents this summer .

Did anyone ever hear what exactly happened to that poor little 4 year old on M:S? For some reason I never heard anything further? Those poor families. I pray this young girl is able to pull through this. My heart goes out to her family!

 

[05ChristmasSurprise]

I just wanted to say that I disagree about the safety of M:S.

I think that ride had a lot to do with that little boy falling ill and that a 4 year old has no place on a ride that intense.

There is documentation of countless people falling ill and being treated at the hospital after riding M:S. TOT was a fluke - Pirates was a fluke - M:S is just not a good idea for small children or people who could be sensitive.

 

[adisneymama]

While I certainly agree a 4 yr old should not be on MS, I think that by saying the ride was not a fault is saying that the ride is performing within the parameters programmed. Meaning in all of their tests, the ride was working 100% as planned. Like I said, I agree a young child should not ride MS, but just didn't want people misunderstanding and thinking something was "wrong" with the ride.

My heart goes out to both of these families.

 

[05ChristmasSurprise]

You're absolutely right. Thank you

 

[peter11435]

I just wanted to say that I disagree about the safety of M:S.

I think that ride had a lot to do with that little boy falling ill and that a 4 year old has no place on a ride that intense. .

The fact is the boy had numerous medical problems in the past. Additionally millions have safely ridden the ride, including many as young and younger than this boy. Also the ride is really not that intense, the ride only reaches about 2 G's, which is far less than the human body (even that of a 4 year old) can handle. Launch on RnRC gets G's more than twice that of M:S, and simply jumping off a couch and landing on the ground puts the body under far more G-forces than M:S.

There is documentation of countless people falling ill and being treated at the hospital after riding M:S. TOT was a fluke - Pirates was a fluke - M:S is just not a good idea for small children or people who could be sensitive.

That is a misleading statement. While you are correct about people falling ill and going to the hospital after riding M: S. That exact same thing can be said for TOT, and yes-even pirates. The fact is many are prone to motion sickness from rides that spin such as M: S. In the case of M: S people who would not ride the teacups may ride M: S because they can't visually comprehend what the ride does. However that does not make the ride life threatening.

The fact of the matter is that millions upon millions of people visit WDW every year. Many people die everyday doing everyday things, this same thing happens at WDW and should not be blamed on WDW or its rides.

 

[cinder1]

How young do you think is too young to ride MS? Isn't the issue more about height? I haven't ridden MS because I know it would make me sick, but my 2 oldest kids have ridden it (last time they were 7 and 9) and loved it. My almost 6 year old wants to ride in January (he will turn 6 on the trip). He will definitely be tall enough. What do you think and why?

 

[polyfan]

I just wanted to say that I disagree about the safety of M:S.

I think that ride had a lot to do with that little boy falling ill and that a 4 year old has no place on a ride that intense.




How can you say it had anything to do with the child's death? Do you know the family or has the autopsy report been released? There has been nothing in print to say that.

 

[Harmony]

For Peter11435...where did you get the information stating that the young boy had previous health issues and that his death had nothing to do with M:S?

Just curious 'cause now I'm seriously considering not letting my 10y/o ride anymore even though it's his favorite ride. I kept looking for further information stating that the 4y/o had preexisting conditions but didn't find that info. The info I keep finding say that he had no known conditions.

 

[Harmony]

Also the ride is really not that intense, the ride only reaches about 2 G's, which is far less than the human body (even that of a 4 year old) can handle. and simply jumping off a couch and landing on the ground puts the body under far more G-forces than M:S.

Not true. First off, M:S keeps you at the sustained G's far longer than RnRC and jumping off a couch will not give you the G's that M:S will. Go ahead and land on the floor...my toddler does it all the time but I will NOT allow him to ride M:S at all...that's far too intense! (and he is tall for his age so I have no doubt that due to height restriction that within a year or so, he would be tall enough according to Disney)

Secondly, I recently saw a documentary on roller coasters and thrill rides. Experts predict that we will be seeing more deaths and people who are injured due to the G's. Even astronauts have to go through intensive health screenings to make sure that they are healthy enough to withstand a certain amount of G's whereas anyone can get on a thrill ride w/o a health screening. Most experts also agree that if theme parks were to post the REAL warning signs...most people would think twice about riding certain rides.

I'm not saying WDW is at fault for the 4y/o's death. But at the same time it's hard for me to assume that M:S had nothing to do with it. I guess I need to gather all the facts before we head back to WDW. I'm very curious where you go the info that he had several medical conditions.

One more thing...a CM did mention to us (this was a week before the child died) that M:S causes many people to be sent to First Aid and even to the hospital. That statement came from a CM who has seen, with his own eyes, people being led away by paramedics. After I heard that, I told my son "no more" M:S on this trip.

 

[rwcmath]

For Peter11435...where did you get the information stating that the young boy had previous health issues and that his death had nothing to do with M:S?

Just curious 'cause now I'm seriously considering not letting my 10y/o ride anymore even though it's his favorite ride. I kept looking for further information stating that the 4y/o had preexisting conditions but didn't find that info. The info I keep finding say that he had no known conditions.

I was in NJ during that time, and local TV reporters were interviewing neighbors who kept going on about how the boy had been born pre-mature and had lots of medical issues. I haven't read anything else, but I did see these interviews.

rwc

 

[peter11435]

For Peter11435...where did you get the information stating that the young boy had previous health issues and that his death had nothing to do with M:S?

Just curious 'cause now I'm seriously considering not letting my 10y/o ride anymore even though it's his favorite ride. I kept looking for further information stating that the 4y/o had preexisting conditions but didn't find that info. The info I keep finding say that he had no known conditions.

An official cause of death has not yet been released. The only thing that has been said was that there was no trauma, and the doctors also said that there is nothing about the ride that should have had that affect on a healthy child.

Like I said earlier millions have successfully ridden the ride with no problems including people his age. This alone along with the fact that the ride operated properly and nothing went wrong should prove that the ride was not directly at fault. As for his previous health, several interviews with friends and family of the boy have shown that the boy was born pre-mature, and has since had a number of medical problems. I hope you allow your 10 year old to ride the ride, as it is perfectly safe. Like I said nearly 9 million people have ridden the ride no problems, which would seem to prove that the ride is safe and this too, like the POTC women was simply a fluke.

 

[QueenOfCelts]

They have not yet said for sure what caused her to become ill. However it is proven that the ride was not at fault, and that this could have happened anywhere. I should also point out that the M:S incident also was not related to the ride, and the boy must have had some type of pre-existing condition. Go have fun and don't worry about riding either Tot or M:S as they are both extremely safe rides.

Out of curiosity....if they don't know what CAUSED her to become ill ( her heart actually stopped BTW according to my paper) how can anyone PROVE that the ride wasn't at fault? Why MUST the 4yo boy who died after riding Mission Space have had pre-existing conditions? If you have info with details, please post the link so we can all be reassured.

I agree that every family should go have fun and not worry but the fact is, if you haven't ever experienced a certain ride you really have no idea what it will do to your body. There are parameters for rides but those parameters are based on averages, etc. Every body is different.