I got a PS3 for DH for christmas this year, and I just bought the system for $299, after doing lots of research. The retail price is the retail price for the systems. If you want it you will pay at least $299 unless you buy used. The bundles that come with games are typically usesess for a grown man as the games are geared to kids. The bundles I have seen without games are not a good deal in my opinion b/c I would never buy a $99 HDMI cable.