I'm afraid your correct about the marketing. The extra money is being used to support other divisions, like the parks, as stated by Disney in June.tvguy said:Just a big party for Disneyland.
Frankly, I don't think Disney is going to add a ship anytime soon. They have the perfect balance between supply and demand, demand outstrips supply so they can charge premium prices.
As for "Special Cruises" in 2007, your guess is as good as mine. But I suspect they may bring the Wonder out to California to do 3 and 4 day cruises .
The Magic's visit out west has been a huge success, sold out, at HIGHER than Caribbean cruise fares, and it has exposed the ship to a whole new market. I suspect Disney is considering bringing one of the ships out every year. Wonder one year, Magic the next.
And back back in Orlando, not having the ship there for 3 months is causing a build up in demand there....so again, they can keep prices at a premium level. It's all about marketing, something Disney normally is a master of. (the one exception of course was the decision to kill the Main Street Electrical Parade at Disneyland........it is of course back, but at California Adventure.)
I think Disney learned a valuable lesson after they opened California Adventure back in 2001. It was supposed to be a grand new park that people would pay extra to see. With in months in was clear that folks saw it just as new rides at Disneyland and most would not pay extra.logan1_2000 said:I suppose the announcement was that all the well-intentioned and hopeful wishes and speculation that have filled this board for what, a year, have all been for naught. No new ship announcement, no Alaska or Hawaii or Europe or even return to the West Coast announcement (though I agree the West Coast is a likely return location) over the weekend. And I agree that DCL is waiting too long, using exchange rate as a justification. Economically, it can be justified--but how many economists ever provided dreams, wonder, magic or pixie dust? Other cruise lines have built in the same economic environment, Disney hasn't, so Disney is content to run two lovely ships that may soon have the word "quaint" associated with them. Luckily, most of us here at DIS love this particular brand of quaint.
logan1_2000 said:I suppose the announcement was that all the well-intentioned and hopeful wishes and speculation that have filled this board for what, a year, have all been for naught. No new ship announcement, no Alaska or Hawaii or Europe or even return to the West Coast announcement (though I agree the West Coast is a likely return location) over the weekend. And I agree that DCL is waiting too long, using exchange rate as a justification. Economically, it can be justified--but how many economists ever provided dreams, wonder, magic or pixie dust? Other cruise lines have built in the same economic environment, Disney hasn't, so Disney is content to run two lovely ships that may soon have the word "quaint" associated with them. Luckily, most of us here at DIS love this particular brand of quaint.
Yeh, but Paul Pressler is safely (or maybe precariously) entrenched at the GAP and can't influence DCL to bring back the "big red boat(s)".tvguy said:I think Disney learned a valuable lesson after they opened California Adventure back in 2001. It was supposed to be a grand new park that people would pay extra to see. With in months in was clear that folks saw it just as new rides at Disneyland and most would not pay extra.
jrabbit said:Build it with quality. Continue to offer interesting ports. Change up the iteneraries periodically and Couples and families will continue to come and enjoy the wonderful experience of DCL cruises!!
jrabbit said:**Disney's California Adventure is NOT quality (because Pressler thought that all we wanted to do at Disney Theme Parks was to shop and buy way overpriced food). !![/B]
jrabbit said:Yeh, but Paul Pressler is safely (or maybe precariously) entrenched at the GAP and can't influence DCL to bring back the "big red boat(s)".
**DCL is quality (Matt Ouimet as President and now Tom is seeing to that).
If this is true, then DI$NEY will as they say miss the boat! As all the other cruise lines are building ships! Just watched the making of the Magic last night. It was planned back in 1985 and took 3 years to complete. That means if they started a ship today it wouldn't be done till 2008, making the Magic a 10 year old worn Wonder!!!! IMO Better Build Now they have the moneyAzptcruiser said:I agree with logan1_2000 as it relates to the exchange rate. I believe that one of the biggest factors affeting Disney's decision is the exchange rate...1 Euro (EUR) = 1.20500 US Dollar (USD). Seems that everything in business is about economics, but in this case that are looking at the short term economic impact.
AUDREY BELCHER said:It would be great if the Wonder would come out and do 3 and 4 day cruises out here in California. We did the 7 day cruise on June 25 and I know I have friends that would love to do disney but not for a week. I would go again out here on a 3 or 4 day cruise.