Another little immigration protest

[Lisa loves Pooh]

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/mexicoflag.asp

This was at Montabellow high school in California--

however in the interest of full disclosure--it was not anyone from that schol that did it. The school was overwhelmed by students from another school and evidently the students were disciplined in accordance with the California Education Code.


(I was not able to post picture--I just got a red x--you can see it at the link)

 

[Cindyluwho]

I have no words to describe my feelings about this. At the very least it's incredibly disturbing.

 

[Miss Jasmine]

I guess I don't see the big deal. It was done as a form of protest. No one was hurt. The kids who did this were punished. We get too worked up about these things.

 

[Cindyluwho]

I guess I don't see the big deal. It was done as a form of protest. No one was hurt. The kids who did this were punished. We get too worked up about these things.

I disagree. If it was proved that it was done by an American citizen then you're right, it's no big deal. But if it was done by anyone else, it's a huge deal. It's the right of our citizens to protest. A right that our citizens have fought and died for. If they don't want to take the time to become a citizen then they should keep their flippin' mouthes shut or go home. There are ways to become a citizen of this country. Are they hard? yes. Are they a pain in the tuckus? yeah. Is it worth it? Apparently so, many folks do it every year.

 

[cteddiesgirl]

I view things this way:
If you're not a legal citizen of the US and are not here legally and you don't like the laws here, go back home. Then come back the legal way. Only then do you have the right to complain and try to change the way things are done here.

I have no problem with immigrants. As long as they are here legally. But there are 12 million illegal immigrants here. Taking jobs (regardless if most people would do them or not), taking homes, not paying taxes, etc. In other words, not being citizens. That is more illegal people than there are total people in New York City and Los Angeles combined.

This is an article I found on the Whittier Daily News website (the same that posted the OP's article). It explains much about how I feel as well as being inspiring for legal immigration.
http://www.whittierdailynews.com/search/ci_3663184

 

[lyeag]

I find it very offensive. As a veteran and a military spouse, I cannot believe this was allowed to happen long enough for a picture to be taken. I cannot even begin to explain how offensive this is. Especially because it happened at a public school funded by American tax dollars.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I guess the problem I have is that the US is not against "LEGAL" immigration and what these people are protesting is that basically we won't allow Mexico to just pick up and move her just b/c they want to without doing it properly.

Mexicans/Mexican-Americans think we are against them. No not really---we are against them not immigrating properly.

That protest basically is that mexico will come out on top and we have no say about our boarders.

We do have a say--and they are misinterpreting what this countries statement is.

Our constitution does not lay the ground work for the game King of the Mountain.

 

[sodaseller]

How do they not immigrate properly? Are any of you under the impression that legal immigration is available upon request and requires no more than a commitment to inculturate?

There are hard numerical limits. I am not saying that any opposition to immigration is per se immoral (although the current bill most certainly is immoral), but I am saying that framing the issue as one favoring "proper immigration" is deceptively incomplete. "Proper immigration" is not an option for the vast majority of those that do so "illegally."

I am offended by the flag. Though I favor much more immigration than most, I think anyone that does should do so because they realize this is the greatest country on earth and should first affirm that. They should love this nation and wish to be part of it the way my grandparents did. that does not mean they will necessarily think the same way, because every culture is different. But they should love this nation and realize its greatness. I have no problem with and in fact favor compulsory enculturation and patriotic education. In fact, I favor that for native born citizens, who are, IMO, woefully ignorant about their nation and the true source of its greatness.

 

[Miss Jasmine]

Where does it say WHO did that to the flags? I didn't see any mention of whether the person was a US citizen or not, if that person was Mexican or not.

While I may not agree with what was done, I still don't see at as a huge deal. I have more of an issue with some attitudes displayed on threads such as these.

I also invite everyone to do a search on human rights in Mexico. It may help you all understand this stuff a little more.

 

[lbgraves]

This is extremely disturbing to me. I don't understand who they think they are fooling. Someone who really wants to become an American citizen doesn't go around being so disrespectful to the country they claim to want to become a part of or to anything that has such significance to Americans. Someone seeking to come to America because of political strife does not go around waving the flag of that country.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

How do they not immigrate properly?

By doing so illegally.


I never said it was easy. And while maybe we should have a better system--it shoudl never be one to embrace illegal entry.

If I can't enter the US without proper documentation and I am a citizen--then noone should.

 

[sodaseller]

We'll disagree on that one. It's not difficult for them to legally immigrate, it's impossible.

John Judis had an interesting view on the "illegality" argument - have you seen it? Have you seen the statements by Archbishops Mahoney and Gomez, and locally by Bishop Lynch?

 

[mickeyfan2]

So to become a citizen you disrepect our Flag, a symbol of our country and fly the flag of the country you came from? WTH?

 

[mickeyfan2]

Where does it say WHO did that to the flags? I didn't see any mention of whether the person was a US citizen or not, if that person was Mexican or not.

While I may not agree with what was done, I still don't see at as a huge deal. I have more of an issue with some attitudes displayed on threads such as these.

I also invite everyone to do a search on human rights in Mexico. It may help you all understand this stuff a little more.

Actually I know all about this. The Mexicans who come here are mostly the Native Mexicans, the ones who are the Europeans Mexicans are in charge. The EM treat the NM now like we did slaves in years past. The EM own all the land, businesses and hold the political offices.

I fully understand the want to leave there, I just want them to respect my country and follow the laws as my ancestors did. Maybe a guest worker program is the solution or maybe another program. Why do they get to come here illegally and other countries can't? They get special treatment because they happen to be lucky and share a border and can walk across it? Sorry that is not a valid reason.

 

[Bob Slydell]

Where does it say WHO did that to the flags? I didn't see any mention of whether the person was a US citizen or not, if that person was Mexican or not.

Good point -- it's being widely assumed that this entire group of neighboring students were illegal Mexicans.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Good point -- it's being widely assumed that this entire group of neighboring students were illegal Mexicans.

I dont' think anyone here said that.

In fact I said Mexican/Mexican-Americans to cover the bases--not meaning to imply illegal Mexicans.


I just don't think it was appropriate to further to cause IMHO.

It is known that it was students from one school who did this to another school. Why did they do this? What does it show?

IMHO it doesn't show that they respect the laws of the United states. That Mexicans should be EXEMPT from such immigration laws. If it was a true immigration issue--they would be supportive of other nationalities coming from hard knocks situations. But it seems that all they care is that Mexican immigrants--legal or illegal can come and go as they please--set up home in the US if they feel like it.

Why is it okay for Mexico, but noone else?