Amazed and Disappointed

[robl45]

I did read that someone saw a bus taking people to the TTC. Has anyone tried taking that bus? Just trying to figure out how we are going to get out of the MK when we go. We are staying at the Poly so going to the TTC would work for us. I just wonder how long the wait is for it though or do they even have it still running? I'm frustrated and I'm not even there yet

We always did monorail going to Poly. I think one time we did the boat because we knew we could get on the next one which normally was not the case. Usually we did the resort monorail and sucked up the one stop at contemporary to get to the TTC and walked over. Usually line was much lower for the resort monorail. You have to use best judgement though because they do run a lot more monorails on the express loop.

 

[EEEEE]

In the MDE app the closing time for MK for the last 2 weeks in August now lists 9 PM. It was 10 pm (Still lists 10 PM on the calendar on this site). Have they actually cut the hours further down or is this a mistake in the app? I planned my days that week based on a 10 pm closing, which was already disappointing. I'd hate to lose another hour. I can't imagine how crazy leaving the park would be at 9 pm in the summer.

Last year during those same weeks MK was open until midnight most nights and all of AK was open until 11 many nights. Even the Pandora EMH are over before those weeks this year. The last 2 weeks of August look like the most negatively affected weeks of the whole summer compared to park hours in 2016. Bummer

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Because in 7mins time it dropped 20mins-you said you checked 5 mins before close and I checked 2 mins past close where it had dropped to 40 mins already..my guess it is possible that at least some of those times (though not all) were padded a little which isn't unheard of. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that there isn't long lines at closing that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying it's possible those times you were seeing weren't 100% accurate for all rides/attractions.

Even if they're not 100% accurate... those waits are NOT what I'm accustomed to at close, even in the summer. I bet that could be alleviated just by staying open 1 hour later. And what you say about MDE waits can be said about them at any point in the day, all the time.

all I was mentioning was what I would call a pretty significant drop in MDE wait time for a ride in 7mins time.

But when those 7min take you to AFTER park close, I have no idea how that's relevant to anyone in the parks these days at close. Maybe I'm just missing something.

ETA: I think that we agree more generally about the cuts seeming significant and beyond any possible "reduction" in crowds (which again, is not supported by TP that shows crowds up slightly... even thought this is ONLY a proxy estimate, etc., etc., etc.). I guess I just don't understand the one point you were making on this one.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

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[MickeyMinnieMom]

In the MDE app the closing time for MK for the last 2 weeks in August now lists 9 PM. It was 10 pm (Still lists 10 PM on the calendar on this site). Have they actually cut the hours further down or is this a mistake in the app? I planned my days that week based on a 10 pm closing, which was already disappointing. I'd hate to lose another hour. I can't imagine how crazy leaving the park would be at 9 pm in the summer.

Last year during those same weeks MK was open until midnight most nights and all of AK was open until 11 many nights. Even the Pandora EMH are over before those weeks this year. The last 2 weeks of August look like the most negatively affected weeks of the whole summer compared to park hours in 2016. Bummer

I only see 9pm closure in MDE on Aug 30-31. Did you mean the last two DAYS in Aug rather than last two WEEKS?

 

[Harmacist]

In the MDE app the closing time for MK for the last 2 weeks in August now lists 9 PM. It was 10 pm (Still lists 10 PM on the calendar on this site). Have they actually cut the hours further down or is this a mistake in the app? I planned my days that week based on a 10 pm closing, which was already disappointing. I'd hate to lose another hour. I can't imagine how crazy leaving the park would be at 9 pm in the summer.

I'm seeing 9pm close starting Wed 8/30 on the app and website. Hoping it was just a glitch. With all these hour cuts, I wonder how next summer will be. I'm sure the hours people experienced this year will make some people question whether to come back again next summer. Summer may soon become the "slow" season, that would be funny. (I know summer will never actually be slow season)

 

[EEEEE]

I only see 9pm closure in MDE on Aug 30-31. Did you mean the last two DAYS in Aug rather than last two WEEKS?

Thank you for the reply. I hope it's just a mistake in my app. Last night when I opened the MDE app it prompted me to update to the latest version, which I did. As of this morning when I check the park hours for MK the closing time is listed as 9:00 PM for every day in August starting August 20. Must be a bug that came along with that update.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Thank you for the reply. I hope it's just a mistake in my app. Last night when I opened the MDE app it prompted me to update to the latest version, which I did. As of this morning when I check the park hours for MK the closing time is listed as 9:00 PM for every day in August starting August 20. Must be a bug that came along with that update.

Hmmm... I just checked and I DO have the latest version of the app... hopefully it's just an error?? If after the MK accounts I've read they decided to cut MORE hours in aug... I just don't know what to say...

 

[EEEEE]

I'm seeing 9pm close starting Wed 8/30 on the app and website. Hoping it was just a glitch. With all these hour cuts, I wonder how next summer will be. I'm sure the hours people experienced this year will make some people question whether to come back again next summer. Summer may soon become the "slow" season, that would be funny. (I know summer will never actually be slow season)

I have been regularly coming to Disney in the summer for years and have taken the late evenings as a given when planning my trip. We will usually spend the early morning in one of the parks and then relaxing by the pool and then head to MK after lunch when the worst of the sun is over so we can spend a late evening there. When I booked my late August trip this year I just assumed that the hours would be the same as 2016 so I'm really disappointed to see that across all of the parks I will have no really late evenings in any park my entire trip (other than one 12 am EMH in MK, which will likely be packed right up to closing). It is unquestionable that this will make we rethink coming back again next year.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Even if they're not 100% accurate... those waits are NOT what I'm accustomed to at close, even in the summer. I bet that could be alleviated just by staying open 1 hour later. And what you say about MDE waits can be said about them at any point in the day, all the time.


But when those 7min take you to AFTER park close, I have no idea how that's relevant to anyone in the parks these days at close. Maybe I'm just missing something.

ETA: I think that we agree more generally about the cuts seeming significant and beyond any possible "reduction" in crowds (which again, is not supported by TP that shows crowds up slightly... even thought this is ONLY a proxy estimate, etc., etc., etc.). I guess I just don't understand the one point you were making on this one.

Ok I see you want to use MDE to suit your overall general comment..but no one else is allowed to use MDE to make their own comment.

You're focused on the after close aspect=dismissing my comment. Honestly the other poster seemed to understand what I was getting at. My point was if you saw 60mins at 5mins to close...would you be more apt to enter the line? I found it interesting that it dropped to 40mins a mere 2 mins after close (which was 7mins after you had checked). It isn't that 40mins isn't nothing to scoff at..but it's a better than 60 mins..at least to me.

You're making this a lot more complicated of a statement than it really needs to be honestly. It was a simple observation not a full fledged argument against those who are upset with the MK summer hrs.
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ETA: I guess my comments would be more relevant to you if I had checked at 10:00pm or even 10:01pm but unfortunately I didn't see your comment until 10:02pm when I checked.

Also you say that "Even if they're not 100% accurate" and then admit "And what you say about MDE waits can be said about them at any point in the day, all the time." (which was more to my point).....then how is your screen shots of MDE really relevant if you know they may not be fully accurate and you know that they can pad the wait times (or really that they just may not be accurate if they haven't adjusted the time in a while)? I get the overall gist is the wait times are longer than wanted at close-that to me is easier to use as a comment in regards to the overall general point of this thread.

 

[maryj11]

We took it one night. I had seen them the night before so the next night we hustled out about 9:45 hoping it would go quicker. It was a long line and within a few minutes of us getting in it it was much longer and continued to grow. They send busses one right after the other but the line was huge. The worst I saw it was the night it was EMH and the monorail wasn't running.

We took it to the TTC so we could walk to the Poly and it worked but it wasn't quick. But I daresay it was quicker than the ferry.

So do you think to get from MK to the Poly at closing plan on how much time? Hour and half?

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Ok I see you want to use MDE to suit your overall general comment..but no one else is allowed to use MDE to make their own comment.

You're focused on the after close aspect=dismissing my comment. Honestly the other poster seemed to understand what I was getting at. My point was if you saw 60mins at 5mins to close...would you be more apt to enter the line? I found it interesting that it dropped to 40mins a mere 2 mins after close (which was 7mins after you had checked). It isn't that 40mins isn't nothing to scoff at..but it's a better than 60 mins..at least to me.

You're making this a lot more complicated of a statement than it really needs to be honestly. It was a simple observation not a full fledged argument against those who are upset with the MK summer hrs.
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ETA: I guess my comments would be more relevant to you if I had checked at 10:00pm or even 10:01pm but unfortunately I didn't see your comment until 10:02pm when I checked.

Also you say that "Even if they're not 100% accurate" and then admit "And what you say about MDE waits can be said about them at any point in the day, all the time." (which was more to my point).....then how is your screen shots of MDE really relevant if you know they may not be fully accurate and you know that they can pad the wait times (or really that they just may not be accurate if they haven't adjusted the time in a while)? I get the overall gist is the wait times are longer than wanted at close-that to me is easier to use as a comment in regards to the overall general point of this thread.

I don't know what you mean in your first sentence. The "reliability" of MDE data is the same all the time. Maybe the 60min at 9:55 wasn't accurate, OR maybe the 40min at 10:02 wasn't accurate. Or maybe both. I just don't know why I should care what the wait time is 2min after the park closed.

Whether it's 60min right at close or 40min at close that stinks -- even for summer. That is my point.

I think we agree on this last point.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I don't know what you mean in your first sentence. The "reliability" of MDE data is the same all the time. Maybe the 60min at 9:55 wasn't accurate, OR maybe the 40min at 10:02 wasn't accurate. Or maybe both. I just don't know why I should care what the wait time is 2min after the park closed.

Whether it's 60min right at close or 40min at close that stinks -- even for summer. That is my point.

I think we agree on this last point.

*Sigh* Ok......so what makes your MDE comment more relevant than mine then if you understand that it's possible that it's not accurate.

I mean let's think about this more. 60mins at 5mins prior to close. But then it changes to 40mins. Neither one of us was checking between 9:56pm and 10:01pm...so it's entirely possible it adjusted in between that time (which a majority of that could have been before close). But sure go with the thought that just because I saw your comment at 10:02pm and then checked MDE that my comment is irrelevant. Instead of understanding what I was actually saying which is it was 60mins and then in a short time later it dropped to 40mins.....I guess you're willing to ignore a 20min drop in wait time??--because you seem very narrow focused on the time rather than the drop in wait time (ETA: and from the beginning I was saying that I wasn't saying that there aren't long waits at closing--I said that like twice I believe).

I don't know why then I should care about your MDE screen shots when it's known they may not be fully accurate. Heck another poster even said that it's possible they didn't get updated right before close and another poster commented that it's possible they stack the queues towards closing. You were using MDE to further bolster your theme of this thread which is "MK closing time=absolutely terrible, etc". I used MDE to make an observation. Somehow your comments were the only ones you cared about hearing..

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

*Sigh* Ok......so what makes your MDE comment more relevant than mine then if you understand that it's possible that it's not accurate.

I mean let's think about this more. 60mins at 5mins prior to close. But then it changes to 40mins. Neither one of us was checking between 9:56pm and 10:01pm...so it's entirely possible it adjusted in between that time (which a majority of that could have been before close). But sure go with the thought that just because I saw your comment at 10:02pm and then checked MDE that my comment is irrelevant. Instead of understanding what I was actually saying which is it was 60mins and then in a short time later it dropped to 40mins.....I guess you're willing to ignore a 20min drop in wait time??--because you seem very narrow focused on the time rather than the drop in wait time (ETA: and from the beginning I was saying that I wasn't saying that there aren't long waits at closing--I said that like twice I believe).

I don't know why then I should care about your MDE screen shots when it's known they may not be fully accurate. Heck another poster even said that it's possible they didn't get updated right before close and another poster commented that it's possible they stack the queues towards closing. You were using MDE to further bolster your theme of this thread which is "MK closing time=absolutely terrible, etc". I used MDE to make an observation. Somehow your comments were the only ones you cared about hearing..

OK. We obviously don't understand each other. I'm going to leave it at that.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

OK. We obviously don't understand each other. I'm going to leave it at that.

No offense but: Or..you're not caring about what I'm saying. I mean I am saying something at the core that two other posters even said: "Hard to tell with that though, sometimes they just don't get updated right before close." (ETA: which was said in direct response to your MDE screen shots) and "Are there some rides with a short wait and are queues stacked near closing? Sure,"

It's funny because I was actually agreeing in that wait times at night are long..but hey ignore that part too.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

No offense but: Or..you're not caring about what I'm saying. I mean I am saying something at the core that two other posters even said: "Hard to tell with that though, sometimes they just don't get updated right before close." (ETA: which was said in direct response to your MDE screen shots) and "Are there some rides with a short wait and are queues stacked near closing? Sure,"

It's funny because I was actually agreeing in that wait times at night are long..but hey ignore that part too.

Whether it's 60min right at close or 40min at close that stinks -- even for summer. That is my point.

I think we agree on this last point.

We do agree on the big picture -- as I said. Like I said -- best to leave it at that -- we're talking past each other on the less important point. Accentuate the positive!

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

We do agree on the big picture. Like I said -- best to leave it at that -- we're talking past each other on the less important point. Accentuate the positive!

And I agree on that but then why be so focused on the time of 10:02pm?....You made that such a big issue as if it didn't make my observation of a 20min drop in wait relevant.

And by accentuating the positive then realize that your wait times you screen shoted may not be accurate which you were using to IDK prove your point.

My comment was completely related to your initial one which was screen shots of MDE. Why not just say "wait times seem to be longer than desirable late at night". It just came off that you didn't like that I was using MDE for my observation (because appearantly another poster can say that MDE may be hard to tell, sometimes they don't just get updated right before close and you've got no comment/counterargument there) when that was the exact same method you used to further your argument.

I think you are cherrypicking stuff here which is why I am even responding in the way that I am. Suddenly your MDE screen shots are of a less important point??Then why even screen shot them and post that to begin with? All of a sudden you're willing to ignore 60mins vs 40mins in favor of just saying "it's too long for that time of night"?

You could have just left it alone but you had to respond to me trying to pick apart my comments because they didn't appear to match exactly what you were going for.

 

[DaisyJ]

And I agree on that but then why be so focused on the time of 10:02pm?....You made that such a big issue as if it didn't make my observation of a 20min drop in wait relevant.

And by accentuating the positive then realize that your wait times you screen shoted may not be accurate which you were using to IDK prove your point.

My comment was completely related to your initial one which was screen shots of MDE. Why not just say "wait times seem to be longer than desirable late at night". It just came off that you didn't like that I was using MDE for my observation (because appearantly another poster can say that MDE may be hard to tell, sometimes they don't just get updated right before close and you've got no comment/counterargument there) when that was the exact same method you used to further your argument.

I think you are cherrypicking stuff here which is why I am even responding in the way that I am. Suddenly your MDE screen shots are of a less important point??Then why even screen shot them and post that to begin with? All of a sudden you're willing to ignore 60mins vs 40mins in favor of just saying "it's too long for that time of night"?

You could have just left it alone but you had to respond to me trying to pick apart my comments because they didn't appear to match exactly what you were going for.

Ok I see you want to use MDE to suit your overall general comment..but no one else is allowed to use MDE to make their own comment.

You're focused on the after close aspect=dismissing my comment. Honestly the other poster seemed to understand what I was getting at. My point was if you saw 60mins at 5mins to close...would you be more apt to enter the line? I found it interesting that it dropped to 40mins a mere 2 mins after close (which was 7mins after you had checked). It isn't that 40mins isn't nothing to scoff at..but it's a better than 60 mins..at least to me.

You're making this a lot more complicated of a statement than it really needs to be honestly. It was a simple observation not a full fledged argument against those who are upset with the MK summer hrs.
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ETA: I guess my comments would be more relevant to you if I had checked at 10:00pm or even 10:01pm but unfortunately I didn't see your comment until 10:02pm when I checked.

Also you say that "Even if they're not 100% accurate" and then admit "And what you say about MDE waits can be said about them at any point in the day, all the time." (which was more to my point).....then how is your screen shots of MDE really relevant if you know they may not be fully accurate and you know that they can pad the wait times (or really that they just may not be accurate if they haven't adjusted the time in a while)? I get the overall gist is the wait times are longer than wanted at close-that to me is easier to use as a comment in regards to the overall general point of this thread.

*Sigh* Ok......so what makes your MDE comment more relevant than mine then if you understand that it's possible that it's not accurate.

I mean let's think about this more. 60mins at 5mins prior to close. But then it changes to 40mins. Neither one of us was checking between 9:56pm and 10:01pm...so it's entirely possible it adjusted in between that time (which a majority of that could have been before close). But sure go with the thought that just because I saw your comment at 10:02pm and then checked MDE that my comment is irrelevant. Instead of understanding what I was actually saying which is it was 60mins and then in a short time later it dropped to 40mins.....I guess you're willing to ignore a 20min drop in wait time??--because you seem very narrow focused on the time rather than the drop in wait time (ETA: and from the beginning I was saying that I wasn't saying that there aren't long waits at closing--I said that like twice I believe).

I don't know why then I should care about your MDE screen shots when it's known they may not be fully accurate. Heck another poster even said that it's possible they didn't get updated right before close and another poster commented that it's possible they stack the queues towards closing. You were using MDE to further bolster your theme of this thread which is "MK closing time=absolutely terrible, etc". I used MDE to make an observation. Somehow your comments were the only ones you cared about hearing..

No offense but: Or..you're not caring about what I'm saying. I mean I am saying something at the core that two other posters even said: "Hard to tell with that though, sometimes they just don't get updated right before close." (ETA: which was said in direct response to your MDE screen shots) and "Are there some rides with a short wait and are queues stacked near closing? Sure,"

It's funny because I was actually agreeing in that wait times at night are long..but hey ignore that part too.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

And I agree on that but then why be so focused on the time of 10:02pm?....You made that such a big issue as if it didn't make my observation of a 20min drop in wait relevant.

And by accentuating the positive then realize that your wait times you screen shoted may not be accurate which you were using to IDK prove your point.

My comment was completely related to your initial one which was screen shots of MDE. Why not just say "wait times seem to be longer than desirable late at night". It just came off that you didn't like that I was using MDE for my observation (because appearantly another poster can say that MDE may be hard to tell, sometimes they don't just get updated right before close and you've got no comment/counterargument there) when that was the exact same method you used to further your argument.

I think you are cherrypicking stuff here which is why I am even responding in the way that I am. Suddenly your MDE screen shots are of a less important point??Then why even screen shot them and post that to begin with? All of a sudden you're willing to ignore 60mins vs 40mins in favor of just saying "it's too long for that time of night"?

You could have just left it alone but you had to respond to me trying to pick apart my comments because they didn't appear to match exactly what you were going for.

MC-M:"You could have just left it alone but you had to respond to me"

Will do. Was just trying to emphasize where we agree now and move on.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I hear you I get you. But I'm just as much fault as the other poster in that respect.