Advise you'd give a WDW newbie about table service dining

Masonmj84

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These would be some of my tips:

1. Make your ADRs as soon as you can (i.e., 180 days in advance) at the most popular restaurants. These include Be Our Guest (dinner), 'Ohana (dinner), Chef Mickey's (any meal), and any pre-park character breakfast, particulary in the MK (CRT and Crystal Palace). In the signature category, Cali Grill also tends to book up fast.

2. For most of its restaurants, Disney charges a $10 per person no-show fee if no one shows up for the reservation or the reservation isn't cancelled with at least a day's notice. Along those lines, if at least someone shows up for the reservation, a no-show fee is typically not charged, even if the group that shows up is smaller than the number on the reservation.

3. Resorts that include table service dining, on average, tend to have better restaurants than theme parks, with the deluxe resorts generally having the best restaurants, including signature options at most (and among the deluxes, the Grand Floridian and AKL have the overall strongest dining options). Of the parks, Epcot has not only the most table service dining options but also most of the better ones (making the Epcot resorts a good choice from a food perspective). The other theme parks lag far behind in this category.

4. There are many really good non-Disney operated dining options on property at places like Disney Springs and the Swan and Dolphin. And, unlike Disney operated dining, many of these can be reserved (e.g., on Open Table etc.) without a no-show penalty. However, these restaurants generally don't accept Disney dining plans or Tables in Wonderland.

5. Whether paying for a dining plan will end up saving you money depends a lot on the makeup of your group as well as your preferred dining style. They tend to make the make the most sense financially if you're planning to go to several character meals with children under age 10. Otherwise, they often end up being more expensive than paying OOP (especially considering that they don't include tips). And generally, the cheaper the dining plan, the harder it is to drive cost savings versus paying OOP.

6. If you chose the deluxe plan, which entitles you to three table service meals per person per day (as well as two snacks), it's generally advisable to plan for a one credit meal and a two credit meal (e.g., a signature dinner) per day as opposed to three one credit meals per day. Three table service meals per person per day is not only too much food for most people but also demands a considerable amount of time.

7. Try to plan meals to be as close as possible to where you are otherwise expecting to be at a given time. And keep in mind that if you are at the MK, there are many excellent resort dining options that are a Monorail or boat ride away. The same holds true if you are at EP or HS (except in this case, the transportation is by boat or walking).

8. To the extent possible, try to pick places where the nature of the restaurant more or less forces them to prepare fresh, made-to-order food. For example, in Epcot, we really like Via Napoli wood fired pizza and Teppan Edo teppanyaki.

9. If you book CRT or a dinner show, keep in mind that you'll be required to pay for the entire cost of the meal when booking (unless using dining plan credits) and that cancellations require at least a day's notice, otherwise you're out the entire cost of the meal (as opposed to just a no-show fee). For this reason, it's generally unadvisable to book these on your arrival day, especially if you're flying in. And of the dinner shows, the Hoop de Doo Revue consistently gets the best guest reviews for a reason.

10. Restaurant quality is not necessarily correlated with popularity. Along those lines, there are many off-the-beaten path, hidden gems in the resorts that are usually very easy to book, even at the last minute (and may not even require a reservation).
 
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Set your expectations. If you are expect quality and price to equal what you pay at home it’s going to be disappointing

As was noted above restaurants not accepting the DDP tend to have better food and are easier to get into

If you are not on the DDP look at the appetizers for your main dishes. Since the restaurants have to sell them for $$$ it’s the last hold out for quality and innovation
 
Here is my list of quality of restaurants. There are a few exceptions but this is generally the way I look at Disney Dining. When people ask me where we eat at Disney, I explain this list.

1. Swan and Dolphin Restaurants
2. Disney Springs Restaurants
3. Resort Restaurants
4. In Park Restaurants
 
I agree with most of your list, except #3. I haven't found resort table service to consistently be better than park table service, or Epcot to have by far the best restaurants.
 

Set your expectations. If you are expect quality and price to equal what you pay at home it’s going to be disappointing

Excellent advice. Before our trip, I sort of understood that Disney had a different way of doing things compared to other resorts. My DH, on the other other hand, expected price to equal a certain level of service and quality. While we had some very enjoyable meals, the restaurant service does not compare to a resort restaurant of similar per night rates.
 
@Masonmj84 I agree with everything you wrote with the exception of #4. The only place we buy from at Disney Springs that doesn't accept the dining plan is Sprinkles. Morimoto, Wolfgang Puck, Boathouse, Earl of Sandwich, among others, accept the dining plans.
 
Regarding #4 , many restaurants at Disney Springs take the Disney Dining Plan. The Swan & Dolphin restaurants do not accept the Plan.
If you are looking at any of the Disney Dining Plans think if this how you want to eat especially if you are all Disney "Adults".
Another consideration is how you vacation elsewhere. On our other vacations (except for the occasional free breakfast at the hotel) we pay for our meals. So paying Out of Pocket at Disney is no different from any other trip . If you are used to vacations with meals included the plans may be something to consider. Not that you may save any money but "peace of mind is also important "
 
I would agree with another poster and do not buy the dining plan. My husband and I stayed for 2 weeks in 2013 and had the dining plan. We had to make reservations and found that there was too much food and we could not be spontaneous. This time around, we are staying for a week in January, I made reservations only for dinner and left the rest of the day free.
 
  • Don't get hung up on the dining. As was mentioned, it's more expensive than comparable restaurants at home.
  • The dining plans are not designed to save you money except under specific circumstances. Do the math. To get any value you generally have to eat the way the plan is presented.
  • The Deluxe Plan is probably waaaay to much food for most people.
  • Most food is just OK. Not bad, just OK.
 
Another point to make as you plan your meals take all of these reviews with a grain of salt. A lot of things happen, a bad day for the restaurant, bad service (that's annoys me most) and most important the reviewer. I am from Kansas City so I tend to be very harsh on barbeque places because I eat great barbeque on a regular basis. Now I love fish but I hesitate to review experiences on seafood at WDW because as a Marine friend from Boston has pointed out that coming from Kansas City I would not know a good piece of fish if it walked up on the street and introduced itself to me. And reviewers have widely different attitudes. I have used as an example in the past Ohana. The family loves the place but their are several very good reviewers on this board who loathe the place.
 
Should you want to purchase the Deluxe Dining plan you can get good value and better than average eats by having dinners at the various signature restaurants and a lunch at your favorite 1 credit TS. The generous allotment of snack credits can be used to create a Continental breakfast at your resort or the various bakeries and fresh food markets in the parks. We've done that successfully for several trips but are starting to back off the dining plans since we now stay club level and thus get a free breakfast. Still need to do the math with that strategy since the breakeven point for club service is 5 in the room generally speaking.
 
My dining advice for newbies is:

... only make a few ADRs in places you really must try, for two reasons: it keeps you from being committed to a schedule everyday and you might see other things while you're there that interest you more.
... do your research and know what is available and where things are.
 
My dining advice for newbies is:

... only make a few ADRs in places you really must try, for two reasons: it keeps you from being committed to a schedule everyday and you might see other things while you're there that interest you more..

Agree. Table services can really eat up your time doing other things. As a "newbie" you're probably under estimating just how much there is to do.
 
If this is someone's first trip to Disneyworld, I would NOT try to make extensive dining reservations ahead of time. For one thing, you don't know any of the restaurants so you can't possibly decide on where/what to eat each day ahead of time. You likely also won't know where you will be at specific meal times. Dining reservations need to be cancelled the day before to avoid a fee, so typically you will find reservations suddenly opening up to places you thought you couldn't get. If someplace has all the reservations full, just eat someplace else. Excessive advance planning on your FIRST trip to Disney will likely not be of much benefit and mostly a waste of time. See the restaurant in person, check out the menu and then decide where you like to eat.

Dining reviews I find online are of limited benefit. You don't know if bad/good reviews are written by someone who always hates where they eat or says everything is amazing (neither of those types of reviews are of any benefit). Generally, I find reviews saying the service was 'too slow' balance out with the 'too fast' ones. Lots of reviews critique one menu item compared to the total dining experience. Depends also on your taste preference. If your family doesn't like sushi, then no matter how good the reviews are, you probably aren't going to eat there.

A lot also depends on your budget and taste preference. Rather wide range of prices across the various disney properties.
 
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Many of the resort table service restaurants are on Open Table too! I also suggest you limit the number of reservations and find the places that don’t take them at all, so you have some flexibility. After a few days, my family is over sitting at a TS! So we also look for QS with variety and non-standard park fare.

We also find it easy to snag reservations the day of once we know what we want.
 
I will say that with alcohol included and if you are a drinker then the dining plan is a much better value than it use to be. I did the math this trip we just had in August and my wife and I had a beer with lunch and wine with dinner almost every day and we saved almost $400 over nine days on the regular dining plan over paying out of pocket. Normally we do not have a beer with lunch because of the cost so it isnt an actual $400 since we might not have bought it if we didnt have the dining plan.
 












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