Advice on finding a resale?

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I have set up alerts on several well known resale websites. Do you seasoned resale buyers have any sage advice on procuring the perfect contract? Any companies your prefer or dislike and why? Anything that came up in your deal that you hadn't known about? Thanks again for all of the replies in advance. I am learning so much!!!
 
Buy the resort you don't mind staying at if you cannot change your reservation to another DVC resort at seven months out. If you want to stay primarily at WDW, buy a WDW resort. Buy a UY that works with your visits, in other words, where you have time to make a new reservation or bank your points if you have to cancel before your trip.

Most of the reselling companies are legitimate. Buy from a company that understands the product.
 
We know that we would like to buy BCV and that it would be for our October trip to food and wine every year. I was thinking that an August or a September use year would be perfect. We have a DEC UY for Poly and will use this for our early spring trip. My DH has a future plan to get a small contract with a FEB UY for a late spring trip in the future. All will be different resorts therefore different contracts and member numbers, Correct?
 
I have set up alerts on several well known resale websites. Do you seasoned resale buyers have any sage advice on procuring the perfect contract? Any companies your prefer or dislike and why? Anything that came up in your deal that you hadn't known about? Thanks again for all of the replies in advance. I am learning so much!!!
I don't have specific sites, price and contract specifics are my dividing lines. The best advice I can offer is to decide whether DVC will work for you then the home resort, UY and # of points you need. Once you get that investigate what it'll likely cost and set up parameters including price per point. Decide how you'll compare different contracts including UY and points accounting. Learn about closing costs and dues reimbursement. Normally one needs a 10-20% points cushion and it's often best to buy resale and add a 25 point retail purchase to give options. IMO all of these issues are FAR more important than simply price per point.
 

I don't consider myself a seasoned resale buyer but we did buy our first resale just a couple of months ago and it closed 3 weeks ago. We used the Timeshare Store.
I think we got lucky.
We were just looking to add on and wanted the same resort and use year that we already had. We also wanted a small contract (less than 50 points). We found what we were looking for nearly right away.
The sellers must've been motivated to sell because they accepted my first offer and signed everything fast. It all went very smoothly.
 
I don't have specific sites, price and contract specifics are my dividing lines. The best advice I can offer is to decide whether DVC will work for you then the home resort, UY and # of points you need. Once you get that investigate what it'll likely cost and set up parameters including price per point. Decide how you'll compare different contracts including UY and points accounting. Learn about closing costs and dues reimbursement. Normally one needs a 10-20% points cushion and it's often best to buy resale and add a 25 point retail purchase to give options. IMO all of these issues are FAR more important than simply price per point.
Talk to me more about dues reimbursement please. I have everything else figured out( I think) and we are already owners at Poly from a direct sale so I have my shiny blue membership card in hand(HA!)..I have also done a little research on what contracts have sold for recently, price wise and how many points were included. Thank you for responding to my posts. I can see my own evolution of thinking through these boards and am thankful to have you guys to ask questions to.
 
Talk to me more about dues reimbursement please. I have everything else figured out( I think) and we are already owners at Poly from a direct sale so I have my shiny blue membership card in hand(HA!)..I have also done a little research on what contracts have sold for recently, price wise and how many points were included. Thank you for responding to my posts. I can see my own evolution of thinking through these boards and am thankful to have you guys to ask questions to.
If the contract closes in earlier in the year or even in Dec, you'll be the one paying the dues for the new year full year. If points are missing, you might reimburse the owner for a portion of the dues they paid. Since dues are paid calendar year, not UY, you just need to figure out how many points you get to use in the calendar year.
 
Talk to me more about dues reimbursement please. I have everything else figured out( I think) and we are already owners at Poly from a direct sale so I have my shiny blue membership card in hand(HA!)..I have also done a little research on what contracts have sold for recently, price wise and how many points were included. Thank you for responding to my posts. I can see my own evolution of thinking through these boards and am thankful to have you guys to ask questions to.
IMO the standard and correct dues reimbursement is what you would pay if you are buying direct with one minor exception. Unfortunately the resale companies take the stance (incorrectly I might add) that if you get the points you pay the dues. I think this got started because that's the standard (appropriately) for the weeks systems and now they've backed themselves into a corner. DVC charges dues on a calendar year basis so if you have a June UY, this past Jan you paid dues for 5 months of the 2016 points and 7 months of the 2017 points. So the neutral reimbursement should be calculated the same. The exception is that DVC only charges you for the rest of the year even if you get all the points, IMO this is a sales incentive but the rest is NOT a sales incentive. So if buying Dec UY with all Dec 2017 points and no others, the neutral reimbursement is for 1 months of dues, not 12, so you'd be overpaying for 11/12 of the years dues in this example. But since most everyone does it incorrectly, just understand that and take it into account in your planning and your negotiations. The amount you overpay is additional price increase to the seller plain and simple. One can negotiate that component. If I were to buy resale again I'd likely add a clause that dues would be calculated as it would on a retail purchase rather than dealing with the reimbursement question ind dollars. Then if accepted, I'd get the reimbursement that is usually more favorable. And since that is reality, no one can argue it is wrong or inappropriate.
 
We toyed with offering to pay current year dues pro-rated from date of closing on an Aug UY contract we were considering. Not sure if the seller would have gone for that, but our thinking was we offer to pay from the time we have access to the points - or nearly so as I realize the points don't get "loaded" immediately after closing on a resale. We ended up with a different contract to buy with only Jun 2018 points coming so the MF's were not part of our purchase negotiation.
 
We toyed with offering to pay current year dues pro-rated from date of closing on an Aug UY contract we were considering. Not sure if the seller would have gone for that, but our thinking was we offer to pay from the time we have access to the points - or nearly so as I realize the points don't get "loaded" immediately after closing on a resale. We ended up with a different contract to buy with only Jun 2018 points coming so the MF's were not part of our purchase negotiation.
This is the main issue that loaded contracts are such a better deal than stripped ones. On a stripped one (or in between) you lose the points AND you overpay on dues. Almost always on a fully loaded contract you get at least some of the points with no additional fees and often quite a lot.
 
We toyed with offering to pay current year dues pro-rated from date of closing on an Aug UY contract we were considering. Not sure if the seller would have gone for that, but our thinking was we offer to pay from the time we have access to the points - or nearly so as I realize the points don't get "loaded" immediately after closing on a resale. We ended up with a different contract to buy with only Jun 2018 points coming so the MF's were not part of our purchase negotiation.

This is the main issue that loaded contracts are such a better deal than stripped ones. On a stripped one (or in between) you lose the points AND you overpay on dues. Almost always on a fully loaded contract you get at least some of the points with no additional fees and often quite a lot.

With our agreed to, largely stripped contract (Jun 18 points), the 2017's MF's are paid, we will pay Jan '18 and would be able to borrow for use in early '18 so we were fine with that. I get what you say though.
 
With our agreed to, largely stripped contract (Jun 18 points), the 2017's MF's are paid, we will pay Jan '18 and would be able to borrow for use in early '18 so we were fine with that. I get what you say though.
One just needs to look at the overall issue and take into account the lost dues on 5 months worth of 2018 points.
 
I would only consider myself a seasoned resale buyer due to ridiculous amount of time researching, calling, inquiring and endless questions I posed to many different people. Overall, I found, by far, the lowest price was offered by Fidelity. Their customer service and availability of contracts was outstanding! You do however need to be on their priority e-mail list or forget about it. I have worked with the TSS before when I sold my contract and they were great! Also one I worked with TSS on other contracts this go around and I recommend them for their customer service, but Fidelity has the lowest cost by far and excellent customer service as well. Bonnie Krampe reached out to me from Fidelity and she made all my dreams come true as well as make my buying experience magical. Cannot recommend them highly enough.

On the flip side, I would strongly discourage you from using timesharelending.com if you finance. The WORST experience I have had with a vendor in as long as I can remember. She completely ruined the experience for me, so much so, I had to retract my offer and take a break. Basically, I had good experiences with most but the best with Fidelity & Monera Financial (if financing is in your calculations). Good luck!
 
We know that we would like to buy BCV and that it would be for our October trip to food and wine every year. I was thinking that an August or a September use year would be perfect. We have a DEC UY for Poly and will use this for our early spring trip. My DH has a future plan to get a small contract with a FEB UY for a late spring trip in the future. All will be different resorts therefore different contracts and member numbers, Correct?

Correct - and for that reason, I would probably suggest your DH hold off on that 3rd contract. A late spring trip would be covered (well in the banking window) with your Dec UY Poly points. But if those Poly points aren't enough, you could actually select a UY at BCV to cover late spring AND October. You could actually go as early as a March UY at BCV and still have an October trip take place within your banking window, AND those points would still cover a late spring trip.
 



















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