Advice for prospective DVC buyers

I'mmm baackk!!!! With more of my obsessing ;) !

Help me with this sanario....

I buy 150 at SSR with an April use year and add "lets say" 50 at BCV with a June use year. Can I.....

Use all the points "at once" when I make my ressie at the 11 month for SSR (ie 200 total)???

Can I use 200 points at the 11month mark for BCV???
 
DisOrBust said:
I'mmm baackk!!!! With more of my obsessing ;) !

Help me with this sanario....

I buy 150 at SSR with an April use year and add "lets say" 50 at BCV with a June use year. Can I.....

Use all the points "at once" when I make my ressie at the 11 month for SSR (ie 200 total)???

Can I use 200 points at the 11month mark for BCV???

No, you cannot. The most you could do is bank and borrow your 50 BCV points to have 150 points every three years.

Also, keep in mind that if you are talking about adding on thru DVC, they will ONLY sell you add-on points in use years that you already have. So, if the 150 April SSR was your only contract, you could only add BCV for the UY of April.

:wave:

Beca
 
So people are really doing 50 point add on at various resorts to use only every so many years??? Is that really smart?? Wouldn't I be better buying the whole 200 at one resort? I guess I am trying to figure out why people would have "add on "points at various resorts

TIA!
Sue
 
DisOrBust said:
So people are really doing 50 point add on at various resorts to use only every so many years??? Is that really smart?? Wouldn't I be better buying the whole 200 at one resort? I guess I am trying to figure out why people would have "add on "points at various resorts

TIA!
Sue

Yes, I think a lot of people do add-on at different resorts with the plans of only using those points once every other year. I also think some people enjoy "splitting" their stays between resorts. Then, there are some that add-on at different resorts because it is "what DVC is selling". There are MANY different reasons for adding on in small amounts at different resorts.

We added on 65 pts at OKW because it is enough points to have a grand villa for 5 nights during most of the year once every 3 years. We thought that would "treat" our extended family if we brought them However, it hasn't really worked out that way...we cannot keep our hands off of those points!!!

:wave:

Beca
 

magicalmcwho said:
Beca,

You will just have to buy more OKW points. lol

Jim.

As much as I like that "solution"...dh is :sad2: .

Hey....I heard that you met jekjones1558!! Isn't she the BEST!!!! I'm jealous...I miss my friend!!


:wave:

Beca
 
PerkyPatty said:
Yes it does help thank you. We went to the SSR presentation last week sometime and our host told us we had to decide by tuesday, I've been completely honest with her and told her I was looking at the resale market. Now what they offered was to cover closing and cover maintanence till the end of this year. Is that about right? Also is it true that as a DVC member you get 10% discount at all Disney Stores?

This may have already been answered, but as of March, DVC members no longer receive the 10% discount at the Disney Store.
 
Currently here is what you lose when buying resale vs. direct from Disney.

You don't get the $8 per point incentive
You have to pay closing costs when buying resale. Disney pays closing costs when buying diirect
Disney is currently paying 2005 maintenance fees vs. buying resale you will pay maintenance for 2005 depending on when you get your points

When you figure these incentives in to the cost equation you may realize that buing direct is a better deal.

ADP :goodvibes
 
Beca,

We really enjoyed meeting jekjones1558 and her friend.
Do you have a trip to WDW planned for later this year?

Jim.:)
 
Jim...thanks for the thought provoking and well structured original post on this thread.

There are two types of DVCers who really concern me.

1. Those who obsess over the "buy where you want to stay the most" advice.

2. Those who pooh-pooh the "buy where you want to stay the most" advice.


Actually, now that I think about it, you can substitute a lot of things for "the buy where you want to stay the most advice". Room view preferences, resort locations, room sizes, etc come quickly to mind. :)
 
Stitch 626 said:
That is correct. Disney will cover the 2005 Maint fee, no closing or titleing costs, $8 off the $95/point or 100 development points offer, and no interest charged if you finance through Disney until your building is opened (Aug 2 for us).

As far as the Disney store discounts, I have not gotten through all of the perks information yet and could not tell you for sure as we have not gotten our PIN yet for the members only website. I can tell you that you get a World of Disney discount at DTD if you are an AP holder (great discount on AP's through DVC at this time.)

So... when does your use year begin. The day you buy the points or August 2 when your building opens?
 
Thank you to everyone for all the info. Bought 160 SSR points today.

No int. til 8/2.
Sept. use year.
No maint. fees til 1/2006
$87.00 per point

Total cost compared to resale at $82 per pt. almost equal.

If I bought same 160 SSR resale I would have had to pay $204 (Sept. 2005 to Dec. 2005) in maint. fees, and $500 in closing and title transfer fees.
 
Be careful of making sweeping generalizations. A lot of the time, they are just not accurate.

First of all, the differences here apply only to Saratoga Springs. They would be way off base, for example, if the prospective buyer was comparing OKW resale with OKW through Disney.

Specifically, in your example
cdpa4d said:
Currently here is what you lose when buying resale vs. direct from Disney.

You don't get the $8 per point incentive
Right. However, most of the SSR resales on the TTS list above are between $80-82...which would be $13-15 less than the basic price.
You have to pay closing costs when buying resale.
No you don't. Closing costs, like everything else in a resale, are negotiable.
Disney is currently paying 2005 maintenance fees
Right...but understand that those fees are only going to be 3-4 months worth, not a full year. So you're talking hundreds of dollars, but not huge bucks.
vs. buying resale you will pay maintenance for 2005 depending on when you get your points
Again, everything in a resale is negotiable. You might pay the whole year, you might pro-rate from when you close, you might pay nothing. That's for you and the seller to work out.

When you figure these incentives in to the cost equation you may realize that buing direct is a better deal.
Not necessarily. It might be or it might not be.

Frankly, if it was within a few hundred dollars, I'd buy direct from Disney just because of the slowness, frustration, and uncertainty of the resale process. If I were buying SSR, I almost certainly would buy direct, unless I saw a contract that was loaded with banked (or bankable) points.

But you have to evaluate each resale contract on its own merits. Some are better than others, and some are better than buying direct. And often, whether one alternative or the other is better doesn't hinge on the financial calculations; it depends on how well a particular contract meets your unique needs.
 
Thanks JimMia,

I couldn't have said it better myself.

I've found in the many years in the resale business it is particularly difficult for some first time DVC purchasers to enter the program through the Resale market. Alot of it has to do with the "trust" issue, they know Disney, they do NOT know the resale market. They have a tendency to look for a reason to purchase directly from Disney. I truly understand that and it's OK, people need to feel secure when making that initial purchase. After using their membership and getting feedback from happy Resale purchasers, they become more open to the other options available to them.

This board holds a wealth of information for any one who is trying to make a decision. I am very thankful for the folks that have the ability, word power and compassion to help ALL purchasers & nonpurchasers feel good about their decision.

Sincerely,
Tom
 
cdpa4d said:
Currently here is what you lose when buying resale vs. direct from Disney.

You don't get the $8 per point incentive
You have to pay closing costs when buying resale. Disney pays closing costs when buying diirect
Disney is currently paying 2005 maintenance fees vs. buying resale you will pay maintenance for 2005 depending on when you get your points

When you figure these incentives in to the cost equation you may realize that buing direct is a better deal.

ADP :goodvibes

I just got 100 points with 47 banked at BWV at $78, I'm not sure I could get BWV for that thru disney, paying the $425 closing was justified compared to spending say $87 for somewhere I didn't want to own.

Actually the costs almost come out the same, it's the banked points that I coveted, also have another 100 point waiting approval with 100 banked.

SSR is just not appealing to me so a resale was definately the way to go. Honestly I should have never sold my BCV (210) 3 years ago.

Everyone's different, sounded like buying thru Disney was right for you.

Have a great weekend
RayJay
 
You are very right Jim.

I have bought both directly from Disney as well as from the TTS.

On each occasion, by doing so I saved $$$ from each purchase.

I can understand where buying resale is a little scary for those first time DVC'ers, but don't let it scare you.

The same goes for buying for Disney. On some small purchase (50 points or less), sometimes you will find it cheaper straight from the mouse himself.

Just research both as both can be a winning situation depending the particulars.
 
Definitely stay away from the stripped down resales... (unless it's extremely under valued, but chances are it won't pass ROFR)

If you're buying resale:
- Look for points available in the current year
- Banked points are a plus
- Reasonable price

We bought a resale last year for almost 400 points at VWL. And there was a year's worth of points banked. So in the first year we had almost 800 points. Since we weren't going to use them right away, we rented quite a few out at about $11/point. Even with closing costs, and first year's maintenance, our net cost per point after this transaction was about $58 per point. In general, we bought the points to use them ourselves, but this was a good way to further decrease what was an already competitive purchase price to a price that was only slightly more than the points cost when DVC started.

On the additional 12 years with DVC-II, it wasn't an issue for us since our main motivation for getting into DVC was going with the kids and having a 1 or 2 bedroom villa on property (e.g laundry and kitchen). We are betting even the youngest should be moved out and/or no longer vacationing with us by 2042. lol.
-joe
 
I Just wanted to say thanks to all of you who put there time in on this tread, and for answering my questions. On Friday My Family became proud members of the DVC. If it weren't for you all I can honestly say we would not have joined. Your input and positive comments are what sealed the deal. We have also made ressies at the Boardwalk for October and are looking forward to meeting our new neighbors.

Sincerly
Searl Proudbottom
Grass Valley Ca.
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