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pls5286

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I would greatly appreciate some advice on a situation DF and I are in with his son who I will call DSS for the sake of this thread. Before I start, DF will be talking to his ex, not me.

We are concerned because my children are involved in this, DD is 7 and DS is 13. DSS is 11 and on the Autism Spectrum, with a diagnosis of Aspergers, ADHD, Oppositional Defiaint Disorder, Bipolar, and Rage-Anger Syndrome. DF has joint custody of his son and he has spent most of the summer with us, so we can "get him under control" according to his mom. He doesn't mind her. We don't see all the problems she describes, but he does have his moments, I will give him that, especially when we first get him back.

This is where our major concern is coming up. When DSS is at his mom's, he is allowed to play X-box from the time his feet hit the floor in the morning until he goes to bed at night, only stopping for meals. If he is not on the X-box, he is on the internet. He plays games rated M for Mature audiences. He can't differentiate the game from real life. These games are very graphic. Mom bought them from her sister for him, They have killing with guns, bow and arrows and throat slashing. Very bloody. He describes this in detail and comes to our house and tries to act these out on my kids:scared1:

He has hit both kids on numerous occasions acting out these games. DS is old and big enough to stop this himself as he is a 150lb teenager and we have taught him how to help with DSS and his Autistic outburst. However, DD is a 43lb 7yo and cannot. DF said he did not play these games when he was in the house. He did not allow this. He also now watches R movies. He has told us the titles of movies he watches.

If DSS could tell the difference between fantasy and real life we would not be as upset about this, but we need a tactful way to approach mom to get these M game taken away from DSS.

At our house we do not use the video games for a baby sitter or to keep him out of our hair. We limit video game/computer time for all kids, make them play with toys or *gasp* go outside and play.

DSS is in a special needs school already for his behavior and we know if we get these games away from him it will help some of his violence. Any advice will be appreciated so DF can talk to his ex.

She is quite the mom of the year and calls us regularly because he is out of control for her, but we don't have the problems. She is not receptive to criticism and will even call me if she cant handle him. We do want him to come to live with us, as we think he will be better off here. She has went as far as calling this child _______ retarted. With the blank being the big bomb. We have it saved on DFs voice mail because he didn't know how to leave dad a message telling him good night.
 
I really think the only option is to go to family court and try and get full custody of him.
 
I think the horse is out of the barn, frankly. And it sounds like you DO have some problems at your house, if he's attacking your children. I'm assuming this child is receiving therapy? Has your DF been able to attend regularly himself? If there is no therapist or psychiatrist involved now would be a GREAT time to get one.

I don't know what the answer will be to this conundrum. I know you want to do the right thing and not alienate his mother at the same time. I would not want him to come live with me permanently until his behavior is under better control, that's for sure. He may be only 11, but he has shown he has the capability to inflict harm on your 7yo.
 
Yes he is in major therapy. He sees a psych and a counselor and a therapist comes to his moms house once a week. His dad and I take him to the Psych and counselor because "its too difficult" for mom to get him to the dr as it is in another town and "gas costs to much."

Just a note. He was not doing this until she gave him these games.
 

Couldn't you get one of therapist to talk to his mother about what type of effect these games are having on him. It sounds like she would take it as a personal attack on her if your DF talks to her, but if someone else approached maybe she would be more open to it. Also they could explain what kind of damage is being done to your DSS.
 
Yes he is in major therapy. He sees a psych and a counselor and a therapist comes to his moms house once a week. His dad and I take him to the Psych and counselor because "its too difficult" for mom to get him to the dr as it is in another town and "gas costs to much."

Just a note. He was not doing this until she gave him these games.

Good for you and DF for stepping in there and doing your best. Have ya'll been able to meet with the pdoc yourselves to discuss his behavior? I wonder if the pdoc laid down the no-video-games law with mom, if that would carry more weight? At any rate, I think before you bring him into your home you and DF need some couples counseling to help you with that transition. It sounds like it's going to be difficult no matter what you do. I sympathize with you.
 
I would greatly appreciate some advice on a situation DF and I are in with his son who I will call DSS for the sake of this thread. Before I start, DF will be talking to his ex, not me.

We are concerned because my children are involved in this, DD is 7 and DS is 13. DSS is 11 and on the Autism Spectrum, with a diagnosis of Aspergers, ADHD, Oppositional Defiaint Disorder, Bipolar, and Rage-Anger Syndrome. DF has joint custody of his son and he has spent most of the summer with us, so we can "get him under control" according to his mom. He doesn't mind her. We don't see all the problems she describes, but he does have his moments, I will give him that, especially when we first get him back.

This is where our major concern is coming up. When DSS is at his mom's, he is allowed to play X-box from the time his feet hit the floor in the morning until he goes to bed at night, only stopping for meals. If he is not on the X-box, he is on the internet. He plays games rated M for Mature audiences. He can't differentiate the game from real life. These games are very graphic. Mom bought them from her sister for him, They have killing with guns, bow and arrows and throat slashing. Very bloody. He describes this in detail and comes to our house and tries to act these out on my kids:scared1:

He has hit both kids on numerous occasions acting out these games. DS is old and big enough to stop this himself as he is a 150lb teenager and we have taught him how to help with DSS and his Autistic outburst. However, DD is a 43lb 7yo and cannot. DF said he did not play these games when he was in the house. He did not allow this. He also now watches R movies. He has told us the titles of movies he watches.

If DSS could tell the difference between fantasy and real life we would not be as upset about this, but we need a tactful way to approach mom to get these M game taken away from DSS.

At our house we do not use the video games for a baby sitter or to keep him out of our hair. We limit video game/computer time for all kids, make them play with toys or *gasp* go outside and play.

DSS is in a special needs school already for his behavior and we know if we get these games away from him it will help some of his violence. Any advice will be appreciated so DF can talk to his ex.

She is quite the mom of the year and calls us regularly because he is out of control for her, but we don't have the problems. She is not receptive to criticism and will even call me if she cant handle him. We do want him to come to live with us, as we think he will be better off here. She has went as far as calling this child _______ retarted. With the blank being the big bomb. We have it saved on DFs voice mail because he didn't know how to leave dad a message telling him good night.

Yes he is in major therapy. He sees a psych and a counselor and a therapist comes to his moms house once a week. His dad and I take him to the Psych and counselor because "its too difficult" for mom to get him to the dr as it is in another town and "gas costs to much."

Just a note. He was not doing this until she gave him these games.


You DF needs to talk to his Dr., Counselor and Therapist and then in turn talk to the mother so the DSS can get the help he needs.
 
Couldn't you get one of therapist to talk to his mother about what type of effect these games are having on him. It sounds like she would take it as a personal attack on her if your DF talks to her, but if someone else approached maybe she would be more open to it. Also they could explain what kind of damage is being done to your DSS.

:laughing: you read my mind...
 
The best thing for you DF is to have him meet with all therapists involved along with his social worker.

I would have him meet with them separately to discuss the concerns as well as meeting with the Mother and all parties after.

Serious behavior modification needs to occur. Though your 13 year old may be able to handle and help now, they will both get bigger which puts all of you at risk if the violent behavior cannot be controlled.

I remember being at a conference with a Dad that had his hand wrapped. We got talking and and subsequently learned his 6 foot 4 son had bitten two of his fingers off. Get this under control while you can.

Good luck. It is not an easy road.

Denise in MI
 


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