Adventurers' Club--12 year old okay?

[Pat_Elliott]

Originally posted by disneycrazed139
As for people that are personally offended by parents/children, I think it's like I mentioned before---Disney probably does need an adults-only venue. If it's true that people get so unruly at the any particular club, I probably wouldn't want to go there myself in the first place!

Sorry, one more comment then I'll stand down. Disney DOES have an adults only venue within PI, in fact two of them: Maniquins and BET. You must be 21 to enter.


Pat

 

[Eeyore2U]

Does anyone watch primetime television? The AC and the CW are much tamer then what goes on during prime time.

I think as pat_elliot has stated, decide for yourself. Don't let others decide what is right and wrong for you. Just be prepared for some to stare, others to mumble and yet others to be rude. Or as in our case, the mom of a 10 year old boy telling him to ask my DW what they meant with the double entendres.

 

[TDC Nala]

How come I've never seen the yakoose drool? Does he only drool for the kids?

 

[pintrader]

Could I just make one teeny tiney little observation without being flamed. Where did the nam Pleasure Island come from. Pinocchio, right? What was it touted as???? Definately not a place for good little boys and girls.

If we can't control the actions of others perhaps we can do our best to keep a family outing family oriented. PI really doesn't fit that bill. Yes one or two clubs do but that is not the whole of Pleasure Isalnd.

While there are two clubs that are adult only, those adults are not restricted to those two clubs. I think subconscientously these almost new adults go out of their way to treat PI like the one in Pinocchio. I have seen things that as a parent I felt obliged not to give the impression I condoned by subjecting my kid to it. To me that's just part of parenting.

There is plenty of family things to do with your child and there will be a time and place that he can enjoy ALL that PI has to offer.

Sorry off the soap box now I did very well to avoid this thread for a full 24 hours. Thanks for letting me share my view of PI.

For anyone who has taken their minor there and thought it ok I am not judging or criticizing you. You and yours likely have a whole different history to draw from. As Pat Eliot likes to say to each his own.

whew that soap box grew taller as I stood on it. It's a long way back down

 

[DisneyVillain]

Originally posted by Pat_Elliott
I may tell a joke at the table next to you that starts "did you here the one about the elephant and the plumber's helper?"

My kids have already told me that one.

 

[disneycrazed139]

Wow, Pintrader!

The thought had occurred to me that it is called Pleasure Island for a reason....however, I haven't seen the kind of atmosphere you are describing since my college days.

Now I am very afraid to set foot on Pleasure Island--with OR without my son. You have conjured up images of naughty children, lawbreakers, and many other evildoers.

Heck, I wouldn't want my son to turn into a donkey!

 

[dgaston]

I just want to add that I think the early shows at both AC and the Comedy Warehouse will not expose children to anything they haven't already seen on TV (if you watch TV in your home). I also think that families can really enjoy the bands that play on the West End Stage, especially Freddie and the West End Band (or something like that) with their mix of classic rock n roll and more recent hits. That sax player is amazing!

I've read that Thursdays can get especially interesting as the evening plays on as CMs get in free that night. It may also be payday at WDW, tho I'm not sure.

I think families will be fine if they plan on coming early and leaving between 10 and 11. I'm always amazed that many younger people don't even start coming in until 11pm--that's when the lines seem to form and PI begins to get crowded.

 

[B'rer Karen]

Originally posted by pintrader
Could I just make one teeny tiney little observation without being flamed. Where did the nam Pleasure Island come from. Pinocchio, right? What was it touted as???? Definately not a place for good little boys and girls.

Just to lighten things up a bit, and keep everyone well informed, I'll share this bit of information. I too thought that they named it "Pleasure Island" because of the Pleasure Island in Pinnochio. But I found out on my last trip that that wasn't true. Pleasure Island has it's own story behind it. I don't remember all the details, but I believe the story goes that Meriweather Pleasure and his family had a sailboat business run off the island. They manufactured sails and such, and all the buildings on the island were used as part of his business. Then one day a hurricane (or a storm of some sort came through) and ruined the business. I don't remember if the family ended up selling the island or if Meriweather's sons renovated the island, but in the end, the island was renovated to be an entertainment mecca. To this day on each of the buildings there is a plaque that signifies part of the legend.

For the life of me I cannot find the site I read this on. If I ever find it, I'll post it. And if any of you out there have the site, could you post it or send it to me? Thanks.

 

[Pat_Elliott]

Originally posted by B'rer Karen
For the life of me I cannot find the site I read this on. If I ever find it, I'll post it. And if any of you out there have the site, could you post it or send it to me? Thanks.

Like you, I thought the Pinocchio thing was suspect and I know I've read a couple things on it. I'm surprised there's nothing on Deb Willis's site. But I did find this article:

http://www.mouseplanet.com/sue_holland/pleasure_island.htm

Sue Holland is a major Disney vet, a PI regular, and a CW expert. She writes tons of trip reports for mouseplanet. This appears to be her overview of PI. She addresses the child-issue, but doesn't seem to wish to wager an opinion! She has a brief description of the plaque in PI.

Pat

 

[Planogirl]

I won't take my 10 year old son for quite a while because I think he's a bit too young for some of the drunken silliness that I've seen and because I believe that he'd be bored. As for as other people taking kids, I don't have a problem with it as long as they're comfortable.

 

[DoeWDW]

We are planning to take our 14 year old DD and 15 year old DS this summer. However, we will be there when PI opens. The possible options are: first show at Comedy Warehouse or the first set at the jazz club, and then out of there by 9-10 PM.

My kids have only ever seen one drunk person who was making a total fool of himself at a family gathering. Their opinion was "yuck!"

They've also seen scantily clad women and both find that type of look ridiculous.

They've watched "Who's Line is it Anyway" and Monty Python, so they're no strangers to double intendre, even if they still miss a lot of it.

Sometimes I think it's important to show them how NOT to act.

Just my 2 cents - constructive opinions welcome, flames are not.

 

[PrincessAurora]

Just an FYI from my personal experience: The first time I went to WDW, I went with a friend and her family. Her daughter was 10 at the time. She was left at the resort with her Grandparents. I believe they went to the Boardwalk that night. This was because her Mom & Dad wanted adult time and didn't feel PI was appropriate.

A few years later, same Mom, Dad & Daughter went to WDW with a whole slew of friends. This time daughter was 14 and allowed to go to PI. She told me that she was steering parents drunk friends towards their correct buses by the end of the night.

Now yeah, shes seen drunk adults before and has heard adult humor. Yeah, she thinks drinking is stupid. Mom & Dad don't behave that way. However, teens are a bit more prepared to deal with adult situations that little kids.

My 2 cents.

 

[DancingBear]

Well, my son is much too young at the moment, but I probably wouldn't hesitate to take a 12+ kid to PI for early show at Comedy Warehouse and Adventurer's Club. And then even the Jazz club, as I think it's a tamer crowd there.

When I was about that age, we took a trip throught the South including a visit to New Orleans. We spent an evening at Preservation Hall listening to traditional New Orleans jazz, then I got a quick eyeful of Bourbon Street walking back to our hotel. My folks wouldn't have taken me in any of the bars, but didn't shield me from a brief exposure. We did plenty of touring in cities like Philadelphia, New York, Boston, etc., and although we spent most of our time in the "tourist" parts of town, you get exposure to some of the darker realities of urban living.

 

[alvernon90]

I don't think Pleasure Island is anywhere near the level of Burbon Street, but on the other hand, the drinking there is not the "wine with dinner" type. They sell drinks in buckets. People go there with the express intent of getting hammered. (Including me.)

I don't think the shows at AC or CW are too much for kids, but I think younger children might be a little scared of the drunks. I was very scared of drunk people when I was that age. If it was me, I'd probably set an age limit of 14 for PI. Younger than some people here would do, maybe, but that's an age where the kids will understand that they're safe even though adults are acting crazy all around them.

BTW, the best all-adult place at WDW by far is Jellyroll's.

 

[disneyjunkie]

Originally posted by DancingBear
We did plenty of touring in cities like Philadelphia, New York, Boston, etc., and although we spent most of our time in the "tourist" parts of town, you get exposure to some of the darker realities of urban living.

People in the burbs don't drink, smoke, use bad language...?

 

[pintrader]

Thanks for making me laugh so hard I snorted milk out my nostrils disneycrazed139 ! I truly have more than a fair share of young adults come pretty close to becoming donkeys as the made @**** of themselves.

I too have heard that it was not named after Pinocchio's PI, but a PR friend told me they changed the storyline after they got a few raised brow looks .

Thanks again for the chuckle

 

[wedindisney2002]

All the times that we have been to PI I have seen families with their kids walking around. Although it didnt bother me I did keep thinking to myself (as a child was sound asleep in a stroller at midnight Why do the parents do this...) I think that if parents want to take their children there then maybe go in the middle to late afternoon. Walk around and check things out and the leave before the "adult crowd" starts comming in.

I dont think that as a kid I would have enjoyed being at PI. (Then again when I was a kid PI wasnt ever there)

I agree with what someone else had said in a earlier part of this post and that is if the kids are going to be out that late take them to DD and visit Disney Quest.

IMHO I really dont think that kids should be allowed in PI after a certain time.

 

[DancingBear]

Originally posted by disneyjunkie


People in the burbs don't drink, smoke, use bad language...?

Well, certainly not me.

Seriously, they don't usually stumble around in the streets between bars, or drink Mad Dog or Colt 45 out of paper bags, or (as once happened to me at age 16 in the pre-Guliani Times Square) sidle up and offer joints, cocaine and "company."

 

[DancingBear]

Originally posted by wedindisney2002
I think that if parents want to take their children there then maybe go in the middle to late afternoon...... IMHO I really dont think that kids should be allowed in PI after a certain time.

But the clubs don't open until evening (7 p.m.) First show at CW is at 8, first set at the Jazz club is 8:15 (next at 9:30). West End Stage performances start at 8:15. IMO, you'd be able to do AC, CW and a little Jazz and be out of there easily by 10, before the real craziness starts (particularly in summer when it stays light later). Again, I'm not talking about young kids, but I think the OP was talking about a 12yo (which would probably be on the low side to me, depending on the maturity of the kid).

 

[PammyK]

I personally think there is enough to do at WDW without bringing children to PI. PI does allow children but I wouldn't exactly say it welcomes them. Whether you bring them or not is a your decision.

And as far as the CMs at Comedy Warehouse and Adventurer's Club using the kids as part of the show, I sometimes wonder if they do it to sort of say "Hey everyone...we have to be more careful with our act because we have children present."

I will add though, if you are going to bring your kids, see who is playing at PI Jazz. If it is
Toxic Audio, try to catch a set. The kids would probably enjoy it, especially if you catch the set that includes their boy band "tribute."