? about very old AP vouchers

[frannn]

Does anyone know if AP vouchers ever had the passholder's name attached to them? I am thinking of buying very old vouchers from what looks like a reputable ebay seller. I called WDW to ask if I were "given" old vouchers, if I could use them, and the rep said that since passes are non transferrable, that if there is already a name attached, I would not be able to use them. I have been buying APs since 2000, and there has never been a passholder's name attached to my vouchers (until I activated them), but was that different in earlier years? I have no idea how old these are.

 

[oogieboogie]

Oops.. sorry... disregard this post.

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

Frann,
Why don't you email the seller and ask if there is a name on the voucher?

 

[frannn]

go to put the voucher through the computer (to turn it into a pass), a name may be tied to it. She said there may not be a name on the voucher, but that it still may be tied to someone. Maybe I did not get a knowledeable person? Gail- would you buy these passes, or just run the other way? I was thinking of maybe splitting the difference and just buying one. My DH says it would put a big damper on our trip if the pass was bad, but the 150 savings is calling to me. Plus, all the seller's good feedback is convincing me....wonder if there's a way a seller could "mess" with their feedback?

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

Originally posted by frannn
go to put the voucher through the computer (to turn it into a pass), a name may be tied to it. She said there may not be a name on the voucher, but that it still may be tied to someone. Maybe I did not get a knowledeable person? Gail- would you buy these passes, or just run the other way? I was thinking of maybe splitting the difference and just buying one. My DH says it would put a big damper on our trip if the pass was bad, but the 150 savings is calling to me. Plus, all the seller's good feedback is convincing me....wonder if there's a way a seller could "mess" with their feedback?

Frann,
Good question. 150.00 savings is significant. BUT....so is losing a 150.00 and then have to purchase a new pass.
In all honesty, I think I would have to pass on this. Perhaps Golden Oldie can shed some light on the rules for annual passes from before 1999 (that is when I purchased mine for the first time and nothing was tied to it). My other thought is there was never a rule that prohibited you from purchasing a pass and giving it as a gift. The only rule was once activated any pass was not transferable. Maybe you could call and ask another person at Disney or send a PM to Golden Oldie.
I am sorry I could not be more positive about this, but, with tickets, I err on the side of caution, always.

As to feedback, no, there is really no way to mess with that, unless you sell under one name and purchase from yourself with another, which is time consuming and not really worth the effort.
BTW, I could not find the auction you were speaking of. Care to pm me the link?

 

[SonicLogic]

Hi frannn! I have been corrected!

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

Originally posted by SonicLogic
Hi frannn! I see a problem. How old are these vouchers? You need to find out. The reason is that if the vouchers were issued prior to the opening of AK (1998) or MGM (1989) then you must pay additional money to upgrade the vouchers to full AP's when you activate them. That could easily eat up more than $150.00.

I am not entirely sure that is true anymore. It seems they lifted that restriction a few years ago and any ticket will get you into those parks.

 

[GoldenOldie]

You will be able to use these for yourself. Activated AP's are not transferrable but vouchers are and always have been. There should be no additional charge associated with activating these vouchers.

 

[SonicLogic]

Originally posted by GAIL HAYDEN
I am not entirely sure that is true anymore. It seems they lifted that restriction a few years ago and any ticket will get you into those parks.

I stand corrected! You are correct Gail. Disney did indeed change their policy regarding old vouchers. Thanks for setting me straight.

I retract my previous post!

 

[Bojangles]

Are you sure it isn't a Florida Resident AP?

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

Originally posted by SonicLogic
I stand corrected! You are correct Gail. Disney did indeed change their policy regarding old vouchers. Thanks for setting me straight.

I retract my previous post!

No problem, I am always being corrected, nice to not be "standing' alone.

 

[GoldenOldie]

Since the OP said she'd be saving $150, that means that the value of the old voucher is in the $250 range if it is being sold at cost. That would put its age around the 1995-1996 time frame, slightly older if the dealer's sell price includes a markup.

And to answer Bojangles question, even if it is a Florida resident AP and she's not a Florida resident, she will be able to apply the original dollar value of the voucher towards a new AP at Guest Relations. So she will not lose all her money if she can't use it. She could in this case lose a few dollars depending on what the original cost of the voucher was and the price she now pays for it.

 

[DNBois]

Please check out this thread on the first page of the budget board: "Should I buy pass from this ebay seller?" There is some important info that may help you to make this decision - good luck!!

 

[CarolA]

The OP on this post and the Ebay post are the same person LOL!

I said on the Ebay post that I would not take the risk. "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is."

 

[dcfromva]

GoldenOldie,
I was thinking that just a regular voucher would not have a name associated with it, but back in the "olden days" when APes were renewed, they didn't start until you activated them (we used to receive a voucher). I remember that I had to present my old annual pass when I activated the new voucher. I was wondering if a name could be associated if it were a renewal voucher from years ago?

-DC

 

[GoldenOldie]

Originally posted by dcfromva
GoldenOldie,
I was thinking that just a regular voucher would not have a name associated with it, but back in the "olden days" when APes were renewed, they didn't start until you activated them (we used to receive a voucher). I remember that I had to present my old annual pass when I activated the new voucher. I was wondering if a name could be associated if it were a renewal voucher from years ago?

The main reason why you presented your old pass was so the CM could use it to easily pull up your information on the computer. Having it was not required but it made the CM's life a little easier since the renewal voucher does not have your information on it. If you didn't have your old AP, you would have to provide a photo ID to the CM so he/she could enter the info and pull up your database record and that would take a little longer.

As to the question about a renewal voucher, the answer is yes ... sort of. When an AP Passholder renews by mail or phone, the serial number of the renewal voucher is entered into the computer record of the person getting it but the person's name is not entered on the voucher's information. Nothing is (see above).

Can Disney track down who that voucher was issued to. Yes, if they really wanted to take the substantial amount of time to do the investigating they could. Is it something that pops up on the CM's screen when you renew? No. Can a Guest Relations CM track it down if they are suspicious? No. Only Ticket Research can do that and it would take a long time to get the answer.

Is there a likelihood that they may check? It's about as likely as you hitting the lottery on the same day you are struck by lightning.