A hypothetical situation

[melissa70]

Have you considered renting for a trip to check out all of the resorts in person?

So far I’ve stayed at OKW, AKL, BRV, SSR, BWV. I’ve liked them all for different reasons. I don’t think I would like the beach club. Seems there are too many kids there. Nothing against kids I’ve had four of them.. I can’t imagine loving any of the resorts more than the others to justify buying there because I will be heartbroken if I can’t stay there. So what does one do when they feel like this..but they know they love DVC deluxe one bedrooms no matter where they are

I’ve been to Hilton Head and Vero Beach also. Beautiful resorts but wouldn’t want to own there

 

[VGCgroupie]

So far I’ve stayed at OKW, AKL, BRV, SSR, BWV. I’ve liked them all for different reasons. I don’t think I would like the beach club. Seems there are too many kids there. Nothing against kids I’ve had four of them.. I can’t imagine loving any of the resorts more than the others to justify buying there because I will be heartbroken if I can’t stay there. So what does one do when they feel like this..but they know they love DVC deluxe one bedrooms no matter where they are

I’ve been to Hilton Head and Vero Beach also. Beautiful resorts but wouldn’t want to own there

Then you buy what makes the most sense financially and I can say wholeheartedly that is not BRV. The link astro and I gave you is a good one to look at. The best economical resort

Just keep in mind just because people have success at 7 months does not you will or even if you do that, that will be the case long term. So buy with assumption that your home resort quite possibly could be your only option to stay at some point. Also consider if you will keep until expiration or if potential resale value matters to you.

 

[melissa70]

I realized that about BRV and it is one of my favorites if I had to pick one but it’s too bad it didn’t make sense financially at all. the fact they don’t offer a preferred view bothered me too

 

[intamin]

Yes. I realized while I do like BRV it’s not an issue that I have to stay there every year and the value just wasn’t there. I think I knew that deep down which has been part of my frustration.

It takes a lot of reflection to recognize that and you were smart enough to realize before the 10 day period so no harm done. Now you get to pick something that aligns more with your vacation goals. The one I still semi regret is my Animal Kingdom contract even though it wasn't even a bad contract and we do love the resort but sometimes I wish I had taken the opportunity to buy VGF direct during the fire sale instead or bought maybe a resale BLT/CCV instead and I didn't recognize it before the 10 days were up. Now I'm pretty much just planning to use it as expensive SAP and to book 1BR value and 1BR club levels with it.

 

[airjay75]

Of the places you’ve stayed, SSR is the only one I would personally buy unless you decide you absolutely love someplace AND need home resort priority for your desired room type and planned travel time (e.g., December).

I know you have expressed some, shall we say, lack of love for CCV. Here is a tour DVC fan recently did of their renovated 1 BR villas that might interest you:

https://dvcfan.com/dvc-resorts/copper-creek/refurbished-copper-creek-1bedroom-villa/

In case you're still reconsidering CCV, I do think CCV points would get you both an ability to secure 1 BRs at WL during high demand times and points that have some of the best long-term value in the eyes of many.

That said, definitely agree about waiting for dues info to come out and for resale inventory to pickup in the next few months. You might also want to give some more thought to the right UY. You've expressed some desire to travel in December and not liking the summer. A September or October UY might be ones to consider. September is one of the lowest traffic times at WDW and also the lowest point chart, although it is still hot and hurricane season. Just some things to think about. Personally, I would not be one to just go searching for any contract with any UY, even if it were a deal. I'd want to secure the UY I prefer, or at least one I think would work well for my planned travel.

 

[melissa70]

Of the places you’ve stayed, SSR is the only one I would personally buy unless you decide you absolutely love someplace AND need home resort priority for your desired room type and planned travel time (e.g., December).

I know you have expressed some, shall we say, lack of love for CCV. Here is a tour DVC fan recently did of their renovated 1 BR villas that might interest you:

https://dvcfan.com/dvc-resorts/copper-creek/refurbished-copper-creek-1bedroom-villa/

In case you're still reconsidering CCV, I do think CCV points would get you both an ability to secure 1 BRs at WL during high demand times and points that have some of the best long-term value in the eyes of many.

That said, definitely agree about waiting for dues info to come out and for resale inventory to pickup in the next few months. You might also want to give some more thought to the right UY. You've expressed some desire to travel in December and not liking the summer. A September or October UY might be ones to consider. September is one of the lowest traffic times at WDW and also the lowest point chart, although it is still hot and hurricane season. Just some things to think about. Personally, I would not be one to just go searching for any contract with any UY, even if it were a deal. I'd want to secure the UY I prefer, or at least one I think would work well for my planned travel.

I’m glad you brought up use year. Considering I’m flexible anytime besides second half of May through November ..would I be good with UY of either September, October or December? I do know to keep them the same

 

[Wedgeout]

I realized that about BRV and it is one of my favorites if I had to pick one but it’s too bad it didn’t make sense financially at all. the fact they don’t offer a preferred view bothered me too

Trying to see how financially nonsense it was. For you? Or someone else? The whole structure is basically ‘preferred’. See trees through trees or see some water through trees. It was a favorite resort of your’s that had home resort needed priority for many times of the year, especially for extended length of stays. (Even a one bedroom).

 

[melissa70]

Trying to see how financially nonsense it was. For you? Or someone else? The whole structure is basically ‘preferred’. See trees through trees or see some water through trees. It was a favorite resort of your’s that had home resort needed priority for many times of the year, especially for extended length of stays. (Even a one bedroom).

The 2042 expiration was bothering me when I realized it’s 15 years away by the time I actually used it.. I know I’ve said it wasn’t a big deal but I think deep down I knew it was foolish.. even if I am done in 15 years with Disney, at least if I bought something with a longer contract, I could sell it. I also realized the contract didn’t have enough points and I couldn’t bear the thought of adding to them.

And yes financially nonsense for me..who else? Is someone else buying this for me lol

 

[VGCgroupie]

Trying to see how financially nonsense it was. For you? Or someone else? The whole structure is basically ‘preferred’. See trees through trees or see some water through trees. It was a favorite resort of your’s that had home resort needed priority for many times of the year, especially for extended length of stays. (Even a one bedroom).

To be perfectly honest even though its not a feel good reality a 2042 has to really be used as a "restricted" resort in hard to get times for it to make any sense. It does not make financial sense to use 2042 to sleep around. One caveat would be if the 2042 contract was purchased very much under market value, which hers was not.

I bought a 2042 and I did knowing full well it was not the best financial DVC purchase. But I adore BW and will use those points at BW exclusively at 11 months.

 

[Moneypenny]

My husband and I agonized over our first couple of purchases. We thought we had to know exactly how we were going to vacation for the next 40 years. What we've realized after several years and purchases is that things change and that's okay. Our travel patterns, travel parties, preferred location and preferred room size are all different now than when we started. When we're considering a purchase now, it's with the knowledge that it can be temporary. We haven't yet sold some of our portfolio to buy something else (we have a bad habit of just doing the buy something else bit!), but we know we'll start doing some of that soon, and will likely do it more than once as time goes on.

Relax, buy something, and enjoy it. When/if it becomes clear that something else might be more enjoyable, sell what you have and buy something else.

 

[Wedgeout]

I’m going to be blunt with you. Even though each and every opinion and guidance had merit and elements to consider, I feel you let all that information build up and fester into paranoia. You had a contract to become a DVC member sent to ROFR. You were so excited. I was excited for you. Now you are analyzing UY again. I want you to happy with your final purchase. Just please, don’t overthink it.

 

[airjay75]

I’m glad you brought up use year. Considering I’m flexible anytime besides second half of May through November ..would I be good with UY of either September, October or December? I do know to keep them the same

My rule of thumb is the months your are LEAST likely to travel to WDW should ideally come just before the start of your UY. So if June, July, and August are you least likely months, a September UY would be perfect.

Some people do advise against December UYs if you want to travel over the holidays. One, it’s a little tricky making a reservation that straddles the end of your UY (e.g., an reservation that begins in November and ends in December - you’ll have to make 2 separate reservations, but most resorts will just let you continue your reservation and not move rooms). And, two, for very high demand rooms in December, some people “walk” reservations. Since you’re planning 1 BR stays, I probably wouldn’t worry much about that second problem too much. And, TBH, there tends to be a lot more December UY inventory than September or October, so probably easier to find an ideal contract with a December UY.

 

[Wedgeout]

To be perfectly honest even though its not a feel good reality a 2042 has to really be used as a "restricted" resort in hard to get times for it to make any sense. It does not make financial sense to use 2042 to sleep around. One caveat would be if the 2042 contract was purchased very much under market value, which hers was not.

I bought a 2042 and I did knowing full well it was not the best financial DVC purchase. But I adore BW and will use those points at BW exclusively at 11 months.

From what I read and thought I understood it was to use elsewhere but primarily for BRV. Like with your BWV, the 2042 purchase doesn’t have to be the “best” financial purchase. Mine wasn’t either on paper. Especially one’s very first contract. I have BCV. I use those points elsewhere. I even moved a stay to OKW. Used those resale points at VGC, CCV, BRV, VGF, and AKV. Guess for me they are my sleep around points lol, yet used them many times at BCV, one of my “favorite” resorts. That’s why I bought it first.

 

[VGCgroupie]

I researched UY extensively before making my decision. When talking abut UY there can be many informative you tubers. The 2 below were helpful to me.
The Magic in the Music
Pixie Dust PHD

Edit to add. I also asked here but I often find that also watching/listening to someone explain helped me more. UY can be very confusing. Especially when it's a Dec vs basically any other month.

 

[Wedgeout]

I know you guys are probably sick of me already, but as I look at the points and what I would need.. I’m finding I will need more than 160. We like bigger rooms and views. I don’t like to feel like I have to rough it out in a studio. I’ve decided direct is not the way to go for me as I would not utilize the perks… hopefully they don’t make any more restrictions to resales! So I need some advice once again.. I’ve brought into Boulder Ridge because I love the wilderness Lodge… so my next purchase is really just to add to my points, wherever I may go. I am deferring to the experts on here…. If I were to buy another small contract 100 to 150 points, where should I purchase?

Let’s revisit how this one ‘hypothetically’ started here. Now look where we are. OP ultimately went back in time and reset history. I now sit back and root for @melissa70. It’s like a Hallmark movie.

 

[VGCgroupie]

Let’s revisit how this one ‘hypothetically’ started here. Now look where we are. OP ultimately went back in time and reset history. I now sit back and root for @melissa70. It’s like a Hallmark movie.

It actually started here (below) with RIV direct. Which led me to believe finances were not a road block for buying which led me to point out even though CCV was a bit more up front, long term its a substantially better value. I guess CCV and BRV are extremely similar to me but not to others. I learned that through all this.

So I’ve recently started the proceedings for a BRV contract.. for 160 points. I’ve listened to the advice of buy where you love and we do love it there..in fact we stayed at the Wilderness Lodge back in the day for our honeymoon and I just love the atmosphere. Yes I’m aware it’s a 2042 end date but at 55 I’m not looking to sell it. However, I’ve having serious FOMO and I am considering purchasing Riviera direct for 150 points. What do you all think? I know you are strangers.. but if you could give me any insight that would be helpful. Like any downsides to direct (besides price) ..well just anything you can tell me!

 

[eticketplease]

I’m glad you brought up use year. Considering I’m flexible anytime besides second half of May through November ..would I be good with UY of either September, October or December? I do know to keep them the same

Ironically since you plan to go in December a December use year would make sense but unfortunately DVC has a bunch of people that walk reservations so that would actually put you behind the 8 ball. August, September and October may be the best use years.

Unfortunately those use years are harder to find deals on compared to December...

 

[eticketplease]

My rule of thumb is the months your are LEAST likely to travel to WDW should ideally come just before the start of your UY. So if June, July, and August are you least likely months, a September UY would be perfect.

Some people do advise against December UYs if you want to travel over the holidays. One, it’s a little tricky making a reservation that straddles the end of your UY (e.g., an reservation that begins in November and ends in December - you’ll have to make 2 separate reservations, but most resorts will just let you continue your reservation and not move rooms). And, two, for very high demand rooms in December, some people “walk” reservations. Since you’re planning 1 BR stays, I probably wouldn’t worry much about that second problem too much. And, TBH, there tends to be a lot more December UY inventory than September or October, so probably easier to find an ideal contract with a December UY.

haha I hadn't yet come to your post. as always sound advice!!

 

[airjay75]

Ironically since you plan to go in December a December use year would make sense but unfortunately DVC has a bunch of people that walk reservations so that would actually put you behind the 8 ball. August, September and October may be the best use years.

Unfortunately those use years are harder to find deals on compared to December...

Do you think that is as much of a problem for 1 BRs? Just curious because I have yet to live though trying to secure a December booking yet. Of course, even if not a problem now, could be in the future. And I’m sure it varies by resort too.

 

[eticketplease]

Do you think that is as much of a problem for 1 BRs? Just curious because I have yet to live though trying to secure a December booking yet. Of course, even if not a problem now, could be in the future. And I’m sure it varies by resort too.

In General no, but for her love of BRV and trying to switch to that at 7 months it still can be an issue.
If @melissa70 could warm up to CCV it would be an easier time since that 1 bedroom only sleeps 4 as opposed to every other 1 bedroom with the exception of Jambo Value. With it just being the 2 of them I would think it would work nicely but it has the same type kitchen as RIV so maybe that is what she doesn't like?
I'm not a fan of the whole no closet in the master thing.