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Agreed. Especially with Rise now open. You had 15-16 days if that of operation for Rise in 2019. Had we had a normal year in 2020 I think DHS would’ve seen a nice boost.Saw this early today, notice the increase in Hollywood Studios with only a small number of months of Star Wars open. Animal Kingdom still doing nicely with the help of Pandora. Darn that Pandemic, I can only imagine what attendance would be in 2020 we were not all shut down.
Disneyland didn’t move at all with SWGE being added. I guess I didn’t expect big increases there but surprised it didn’t move at all.
I think it’s really hard to compare the two. Rise didn’t open until December and Hagrid’s opened in June.My take away is SWGE wasn't as big a draw as Hagrids was for Universal.
What I do find interesting is at some parks new attractions increase attendance where at others they don't do much. Universal and Disneyland in California are both locals parks. Both added new attractions. One saw an increase in attendance and they other was flat. I'm not trying to make this a Universal vs. Disney debate. It happens at regional parks too.I think it’s really hard to compare the two. Rise didn’t open until December and Hagrid’s opened in June.
And 2020 will give us next to nothing to compare too.What I do find interesting is at some parks new attractions increase attendance where at others they don't do much. Universal and Disneyland in California are both locals parks. Both added new attractions. One saw an increase in attendance and they other was flat. I'm not trying to make this a Universal vs. Disney debate. It happens at regional parks too.
My local park added a dive coaster last season and saw a big jump in attendance. Yet Six Flags Great America added one of the fastest coasters in the US and didn't see much change at all. Just curious as to why that happens?
My biggest question would what would’ve it been like had RotR opened with the land. DHS obviously needed more and it got it with TSL and SWGE. I wonder if there was any sort of impact with building two. Would have the west coasters come to WDW if they only built it at DHS or vice versa?After posting earlier in the News thread, I looked at a few other TEA reports. Here are the attendance bumps at Orlando parks in the year they opened new lands (all opened in their respective summers between June -August):
Hogsmeade - IoA (2010): +30%
Diagon Alley - USO (2014): +17%
Pandora - AK (2017): +16%
Toy Story Land - DHS (2018): +5%
Galaxy’s Edge - DHS (2019): +2%
Although there are plenty of variables to try and explain differences (and not just that RotR hadn’t opened), the fact that Galaxy’s Edge generated a fraction of the attendance increases of comparable lands is still somewhat shocking.
Agree and seeing a full 2020 would have been so important in fully seeing the bump it would have provided. Now it could be years before we really see if SWGE provided the bump they were going for.My biggest question would what would’ve it been like had RotR opened with the land. DHS obviously needed more and it got it with TSL and SWGE. I wonder if there was any sort of impact with building two. Would have the west coasters come to WDW if they only built it at DHS or vice versa?
And likely more changes than SWGE will impact that.Agree and seeing a full 2020 would have been so important in fully seeing the bump it would have provided. Now it could be years before we really see if SWGE provided the bump they were going for.
Flight of passage has done just that. People aren’t going to Pandora for NRJ lol.I think part of the issue for SWGE was people avoiding it in fear of massive crowds.
Another issue is that one attraction can't really drive big crowds to a Disney park because they already draw big crowds, especially with the economy strong. It's just harder to point to one thing moving the needle on attendance.
Agreed - no doubt opening the land as a complete whole would have closed the gap significantly (having watched and been part of those increased crowds once RotR opened). Not too worried about DHS going forward - but it does raise some interesting questions. Not the least of which is whether Disney should have built a $1B land (twice!) or just a really, really good ride. I like GE and glad they built it, but on its own without RotR it didn’t seem to draw attendance.My biggest question would what would’ve it been like had RotR opened with the land. DHS obviously needed more and it got it with TSL and SWGE. I wonder if there was any sort of impact with building two. Would have the west coasters come to WDW if they only built it at DHS or vice versa?
It didn't but I'm not sure that was the goal. I think the goal was to increase revenue, not attendance. Signature APs are 20% more expensive than they were in early 2019 (and 41% more than 12 months before that, after SWGE was announced). Deluxe increased 34% since early 2018. Merch sales had to be way up. IDK but I think they're probably happy with it.Disneyland didn’t move at all with SWGE being added. I guess I didn’t expect big increases there but surprised it didn’t move at all.
You make an excellent point. Many of the moves Disney makes isn't to boost attendance, it's to boost revenue. Maintaining attendance while charging more for everything from tickets to food to merchandise.It didn't but I'm not sure that was the goal. I think the goal was to increase revenue, not attendance. Signature APs are 20% more expensive than they were in early 2019 (and 41% more than 12 months before that, after SWGE was announced). Deluxe increased 34% since early 2018. Merch sales had to be way up. IDK but I think they're probably happy with it.