2015 Theme Park Attendance numbers!

[rteetz]

The TEA an AECOM have released their estimates for theme park attendance worldwide in 2015.

http://www.inparkmagazine.com/2015-theme-index/

 

[rteetz]

Sentinel article on the numbers

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/tourism/os-orlando-theme-park-attendance-20160525-story.html

@lockedoutlogic I know you like market share, Universal's went up more than a full point whereas Disney went up .9.

 

[Planogirl]

This is very interesting. It'll be even more interesting to see what happens in 2016.

 

[ChipnDale79]

Sentinel article on the numbers

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/tourism/os-orlando-theme-park-attendance-20160525-story.html

@lockedoutlogic I know you like market share, Universal's went up more than a full point whereas Disney went up .9.

Overall Orlando did very well.

The market share is something to keep an eye on.

 

[rteetz]

This is very interesting. It'll be even more interesting to see what happens in 2016.

Yes 2016 will be a telling year.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

pretty clear museums need to step up their game!

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Interesting that AK and DHS were up almost as much as MK, and more than EPCOT despite nothing really new at AK in 2015 and closing of attractions at DHS

 

[rteetz]

Interesting that AK and DHS were up almost as much as MK, and more than EPCOT despite nothing really new at AK in 2015 and closing of attractions at DHS

I'd think the one thing you could say accounts for an increase at DHS and AK is the park hopper. Many only spend a half day at both of those parks while they'll spend a full day at Epcot.

 

[rteetz]

Since 2010

Magic Kingdom up 19%
Epcot up 7%
Animal Kingdom up 13%
Hollywood Studios up 13%

Daily average in 2015

MK- 56,000
Epcot- 32,000
DHS- 30,000
AK- 30,000

 

[sheetz]

Like I said in another thread, the TEA numbers are garbage. Cedar Fair announced that Knott's received 5 million visitors last year but it's still only at 3.7 mil on the TEA report.

 

[Eoghann]

Like I said in another thread, the TEA numbers are garbage. Cedar Fair announced that Knott's received 5 million visitors last year but it's still only at 3.7 mil on the TEA report.

If you're looking for exact numbers then yes they're likely useless. If, as most would, you want a comparison of park popularity and performance over previous years... they may be quite consistent.

 

[sheetz]

If you're looking for exact numbers then yes they're likely useless. If, as most would, you want a comparison of park popularity and performance over previous years... they may be quite consistent.

I think most people look to them for relative rankings and performance. But when the numbers are handed to them on a silver platter and TEA chooses to ignore them then something is wrong.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Sentinel article on the numbers

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/tourism/os-orlando-theme-park-attendance-20160525-story.html

@lockedoutlogic I know you like market share, Universal's went up more than a full point whereas Disney went up .9.

So 1 up, 1 down?

That's less than I thought...but as Plano said: this year is gonna be more interesting.

 

[Eoghann]

I think most people look to them for relative rankings and performance. But when the numbers are handed to them on a silver platter and TEA chooses to ignore them then something is wrong.

Actually no, not if the goal is that relative ranking. For that to work you have to use the same methodology for all entries so you can't just cherry pick one set of numbers.

Now there are rumors that Disney somehow gets the numbers fudged. If true then the whole exercise is worthless.

 

[sheetz]

Actually no, not if the goal is that relative ranking. For that to work you have to use the same methodology for all entries so you can't just cherry pick one set of numbers.
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But I'm pretty sure some of the numbers are not estimates at all but are actually taken from financial reports, so it's not just cherry picking one set of numbers.

 

[Eoghann]

But I'm pretty sure some of the numbers are not estimates at all but are actually taken from financial reports, so it's not just cherry picking one set of numbers.

If that is the case then yes the numbers are completely worthless. They need to at least be comparable against each other.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

But I'm pretty sure some of the numbers are not estimates at all but are actually taken from financial reports, so it's not just cherry picking one set of numbers.

They are semi factually based guesstimates...relying heavily on what the fox in the henhouse himself tells them

 

[DanBoris]

Actually no, not if the goal is that relative ranking. For that to work you have to use the same methodology for all entries so you can't just cherry pick one set of numbers.

Now there are rumors that Disney somehow gets the numbers fudged. If true then the whole exercise is worthless.

Since not all companies provide numbers, and it's my understanding that Disney does not provide numbers for this report, so they are not using the exact same method for all parks. From the report..


AECOM obtains the figures used to
create the TEA/AECOM Theme Index and
Museum Index through a variety of sources,
including statistics furnished directly
by the operators, historical numbers,
financial reports, the investment banking
community, local tourism organizations, and
professional estimates where necessary.

The report also mentions that the companies are given a chance to review the estimates before they are published.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I'd think the one thing you could say accounts for an increase at DHS and AK is the park hopper. Many only spend a half day at both of those parks while they'll spend a full day at Epcot.

Sorry if it was mentioned in the full report, but how do they count people that park hop? If they spend half a day in AK and half in EPCOT is that counted as a person at both or 1/2 a person?

 

[sheetz]

An example of a company that has provided actual attendance numbers is OLC, which used to give an exact figure for TDL before TDS was built and now provides combined attendance for both parks. In their annual report they list combined attendance for TDL and TDS at 31.4 mil for 2014 and 30.19 for 2015--which is exactly what is listed in TEA.