2013 dining plan prices! OUCH

havoc315

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Disney is now only claiming 15% savings.

With credit to Disdad70, I wanted to move up the exact pricing to the first post in the thread:

Quick Dining
All Seasons
$37.58 per adult per night
$14.32 per child per night

2012 was $34.99 and $11.99

Plus Dining
Value and Regular Seasons
$55.59/adult
$17.16/child

Peak and Holiday Seasons
$56.94/adult
$18.16/child

2012 was $51.54/$53.54 and $15.02/$16.02

Deluxe Dining Plan
Value and Regular Seasons
$99.97/adult
$26.84/child

Peak and Holiday Seasons
$102.27/adult
$28.91/child

2012 was $85.52/$89.52 and $23.79/$25.79
 
Wow.

People must have been actually saving money with the DxDP? Or they only want you to do one character meal per day to free up availability? It seems they don't really want people to choose that option!

Are the plans any different or just the prices? A phone CM told me a couple of weeks ago that they didn't have the details, but the new plans were going to be "amazing" so I was hoping they might be a little different. I guess he just meant the size of the price increase.... :lmao:
 
Plans themselves look unchanged at first glance.

DxDP was the only plan where you could save money without maximizing every credit. You can still save under new DxDP pricing, but there will no longer be any wiggle room.
 
I figured the peak price is 56.99/pp per day...that's a lot for four people for the week!. I like the convenience of it and not thinking about prices when I order, but not sure I can pay that much...ugh!
 

Where are you finding the prices? I am at the WDW site and I am finding all kinds of info about the DP but no prices...maybe I am just missing them!
 
Won't we have to wait to see whether restaurant pricing also increases, though? I know it's scary to think about, but those might go up by a similar amount :faint:
 
Here is the full breakdown

Quick Dining
All Seasons
$37.58 per adult per night
$14.32 per child per night

2012 was $34.99 and $11.99

Plus Dining
Value and Regular Seasons
$55.59/adult
$17.16/child

Peak and Holiday Seasons
$56.94/adult
$18.16/child

2012 was $51.54/$53.54 and $15.02/$16.02

Deluxe Dining Plan
Value and Regular Seasons
$99.97/adult
$26.84/child

Peak and Holiday Seasons
$102.27/adult
$28.91/child

2012 was $85.52/$89.52 and $23.79/$25.79
 
Thought last year's price increases were crazy and now they have outdone themselves. I wonder how many people will still purchase for the prepaid factor?
 
Thanks for the numbers - much appreciated! Not sure the DDP will make sense for us next year. We were on the cusp this year but with lots of fixed price meals in there, it made sense especially because the kids rate was so reasonable. Looks like a pretty big jump for the kids for 2013, but I can't remember exactly what we paid for her last year, I thought $11.99 a night but that could be wrong!

ETA, well OOPS, just saw you put the 2012 numbers in there. I didn't realize we'd paid $15 for DD. I remember back when it was around the $10 mark. Good times.
 
Thanks for posting! I was just on there quoting a package (I have my RO already booked) and I thought wow that looks like more than I had originally thought! I was on the fence for the DP, DD will be turning 2 while we are there so she's free (or if we want to splurge it won't be that much for a kids meal a couple times) and DH and I were planning on doing 1 or 2 signatures but only one was definite (we are getting married down there and having a Disneymooning day after, my parents are gonna take DD for the day :goodvibes) so I don't know of its worth it, I had already kind of priced things out and we were barely saving if any on the DP, just find it convenient but now I think I might just put a certain amount away for dining and just charge to the room :scratchin
 
Did anyone else notice that they no longer give apatizers on the regular dining plan. Only people on the deluxe get it. Guess I'm waiting for free dining to come along before booking my trip for January.
 
Did anyone else notice that they no longer give apatizers on the regular dining plan. Only people on the deluxe get it. Guess I'm waiting for free dining to come along before booking my trip for January.

Regular dining plan hasn't had appetizers since 2008 or 2009.
 
Did anyone else notice that they no longer give apatizers on the regular dining plan. Only people on the deluxe get it. Guess I'm waiting for free dining to come along before booking my trip for January.

Appetizers haven't been offered on the DDP for several years now. Only on DxDDP.
 
The first time we used the dining plan we had the appetizers, meal, and dessert. We were there at Thanksgiving 2006 and I don't even think there was a holiday pricing???? It was an amazing deal and we just couldn't believe all the food we got for the money - too much food honestly!

We've used the dining plan several times since then and have always wished we could get an appetizer instead of dessert. Our son is 12 (a picky eater) and we are headed back for Thanksgiving this year. We are trying OOP for the first time in years - it just doesn't make since to pay adult meal plan price for a 12 year old that will eat grilled cheese and cheese pizza. We are actually excited about the options that OOP will open up for us - we can look at a menu and not worry about maximizing the plan or what are we allowed to order. I might have a salad and sticky wings at Kona - crazy isn't it!!
 
The real effects of the pricing.

Some will say that we need to wait to see next Year's menu prices. Not really necessary. Menu prices don't suddenly flip on January 1. Some menu items have been priced the same for 5 years. Other menus may have been adjusted recently, others may see an adjustment at any time.
Historically, we know the trends -- Dining plans and character meals see big increases every year. Regular menus increase at only about 2-3% per year, overall.

The biggest change is the deluxe plan -- about a 20% increase in price.
Used to be, DxDP had pretty good savings if you mostly ate TS. Great savings if you maximized the plan. Now, if you mostly eat TS -- savings aren't guaranteed. If you maximize the plan, you can still get good savings. (steak 3 times per day!!!). Need to remember that most people on the DxDP, do not use EVERY entitlement. It's too much food to use it ALL.
It is hard to recommend the DxDP any longer, unless you are really going to pig out a bit.
You can easily build your own deluxe meal plan for less than $99 per day. ($7 breakfast, $30 lunch, $55 dinner, $7 worth of snacking)

Ddp -- at this point, it really only retains any real savings if you intend to do lots of character meals with children. Children pricing won't save much on non-character meals. Adults need to order super expensive items, just to break even.

QSDP --- if you don't really care for the mug, then the plan is break even at best case scenario. Best case scenario, if you maximize the value at every meal, only eating lunch and dinner, then you still save a few dollars.
 
Going forward to 2013, I don't think I'd purchase the DDP. Now, if it's offered as part of free dining, that still adds up to a considerable savings, even over a room discount (for my family make up; the same can't be said for all :goodvibes).

That said, there is something wonderfully lovely about having the food already paid for. If you have a spouse that worries about every penny, it might be worth it even with the questionable savings. I suppose a lot will depend on how much/if pricing rises on food as well. Meh.
 
Doh, there's 2 threads on this, I was all confused thinking my numbers stuff was deleted or something (it's still morning...my brain doesn't wake up until I get off of work).

Some more numbers in relation to the price increases (copied from said other thread, Fred)

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For the credit costs, going back to Faldred's original calculations, we see the following (assuming all entitlements are the same):
2QS + 1S = 37.58
1TS + 1QS + 1S = 55.59
3Dx + 2S = 99.97

Using 3 for S (to symbolize an average of $3 for snack) we get

2QS = 34.58
1TS + 1QS = 52.59
3Dx = 93.97

QS = 17.29
Dx = 31.33

1TS + 1(17.29) = 52.59
TS = 35.30

So, in non-peak season, these are the rough estimated costs per credit per plan:
QSDP: 1 QS credit costs ~$17.29
DDP: 1 TS credit costs ~$35.30
DxDDP: 1 Dx credit costs ~$31.33

(*Cost per credit, at least in my world, is an estimation of how much the actual credit costs you when you buy the plan. There is no bearing on what you order, or how many credits you leave unused, since you still have them, they're just not used. Value per credit is where these things come into play. Again, at least in my world )
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I'll have to wait and see what menu prices look like for next year, but with the change to the 15% claim (just a couple years ago it was 25%!), I'm not expecting them to go up by nearly as much as the plans themselves.

The real effects of the pricing.

Some will say that we need to wait to see next Year's menu prices. Not really necessary. Menu prices don't suddenly flip on January 1. Some menu items have been priced the same for 5 years. Other menus may have been adjusted recently, others may see an adjustment at any time.
Historically, we know the trends -- Dining plans and character meals see big increases every year. Regular menus increase at only about 2-3% per year, overall.
Heh, yup, I did say that! However, I do agree. The future menus will only further refine the data and I'm not holding out hope there's going to be anything major done. Basically, in my case (not everyone's, just mine) when I say I have to wait for the menus, it's more about refining the estimations than it is about determining the overall general "feeling" toward any of the plans.

Also, before anyone freaks out over the restaurant lists (which, I bet many already have...) a reminder that:

The list of restaurants in the initial 2013 brochures is not final. They include only Disney-owned restaurants and those who have already signed the contract for 2013 (likely none at this point). Non-Disney restaurants have until the end of the year to sign back up for the next year. Historically, only 1 restaurant has ever dropped participation in the dining plan, Fulton's, and they rejoined for 2012. There's a good chance that your favorite restaurant that was on the plan for 2012 will be on it for 2013.
 
Wow, that stinks. We saw about 20% savings with the deluxe plan based on real-world dining habits (not seeking to maximize value) so now it is at best a breakeven proposition that involves a loss of flexibility both in travel style and in the more restrictive terms of package bookings as well as a potential loss of other discounts (ie Undercover Tourist or YES tickets).

I'm glad this year is my AP/TiW year because at those prices the only thing the DDP is good for is the free offering to fill rooms.
 
Some more numbers in relation to the price increases (copied from said other thread, Fred)

So, in non-peak season, these are the rough estimated costs per credit per plan:
QSDP: 1 QS credit costs ~$17.29
DDP: 1 TS credit costs ~$35.30
DxDDP: 1 Dx credit costs ~$31.33

So given your calculations. It will mostly be the buffets that are worth the DDP cost and then only for dinner (A crystal palace lunch doesn't hit $35)

All the more reason to go with a TIW card for my visits over the next year. :)
 


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