If no tickets for MNSSHP must we leave?

[seashoreCM]

The system as it stands defacto allows the following:

1. A party guest showing up at 7:01 PM will have little or no wait to get through the turnstiles.

2. No regular guest is required to stop what he is doing and prepare to exit prior to 6:59 PM.

3. In addition, should park capacity closure be in effect, fewer party goers would have to wait outside for batches of other guests to exit after 7:00 because many will have already gotten in as batches of guests exited prior to 7:00.

The party entrance could probably be delayed until about 5:30 without excessive crowding just outside the park.

 

[doconeill]

They used to close the park. But it meant at least one hour less for the people not attending the party (making MK an even less likely destination for quite a few guests that day, which the other parks would need to absorb - but an awesome park for park hoppers ), and requiring a lot of staff to clear the park, etc. Plus you needed to hold several thousand guests outside the park until 7pm...which probably was a limited factor in how many tickets they could sell as well. It just proved easier to allow the "mixture" over three hours and use wristbands.

 

[tony609]

No, these were snark-free posts - Just simply stated. Do you disagree that if someone stays past 7pm and doesn't have a ticket than they are getting something they didn't pay for? Do you disagree that if someone arrives at 4pm for an event that starts at 7pm they are getting something they didn't pay for?
If you disagree I would like to hear the reasoning - non-snarky, of course. I'm always interested in how others view things differently than me.

The reasoning Disney is allowing 4pm entry, Day guests without a ticket they want out by 7pm(ish) It's really THAT simple. If Disney said ok non party goers were allowed to stay watch the parade and fireworks..BUT no rides,characters,dinner reservations,shopping without a ticket/wristband after 7pm..then that would HAVE to be ok to.

 

[larryz]

Can we get a ":doomedthread" smiley?

I got yer doomed thread smiley right here...

 

[Suellen]

If Disney is gonna allow no ticket holders to stay for parades, shows, fireworks ~ then I ain't paying 54.95 per person just for candy.

The special event parades are the only ones we bother with since I refuse to spend hours staking out a spot and since my kids are little.... well they can't see 5 people back. So we enjoy the parades and shows at hard ticket events because WE CAN! They CAN sit the 30 minutes we have to to get a front row spot so they CAN see.

THAT is what I don't mind paying extra for. The dance parties and shows at the Castle are also absolutely fantastic. Riding rides with no lines is fun too... but I can do that for free in January.

 

[mrbghd]

I agree with your end quote, too. For those that enter at 4pm just remember - don't gripe at the park if you see non-ticket holders lingering! What's good for the goose.... Hope this isn't taken in a snarky way, I just always notice when there is a double standard like that

That to me is like people who pay to stay at a Value resort and then hang out at the Poly on the beach, or ask about which resorts have the best playgrounds etc. It's okay to do that even though each resort is considered private property with dining available to anyone. But heaven forbid a person stay 10 minutes past closing and "linger" on the way out of MK on a party night. BTW I don't think either should be allowed.

 

[Suellen]

That to me is like people who pay to stay at a Value resort and then hang out at the Poly on the beach, or ask about which resorts have the best playgrounds etc. It's okay to do that even though each resort is considered private property with dining available to anyone. But heaven forbid a person stay 10 minutes past closing and "linger" on the way out of MK on a party night. BTW I don't think either should be allowed.

Just for the record ~ when we stay at a value resort we play at the value resort.

When we stay at a deluxe resort we play at a deluxe resort.

Also I am not talking 10 minutes ~ I am talking the people who scam a way to stay around until the 8:30 parade ~ or cause a big stink because they can't buy party exclusive merchandise because they don't have a band.

Just saying.

 

[mrbghd]

Just for the record ~ when we stay at a value resort we play at the value resort.

When we stay at a deluxe resort we play at a deluxe resort.

Also I am not talking 10 minutes ~ I am talking the people who scam a way to stay around until the 8:30 parade ~ or cause a big stink because they can't buy party exclusive merchandise because they don't have a band.

Just saying.

I wasn't referring to you personally. I was making a general statement based on the many posts I have seen here and other places on these boards. BTW, I think you have every right to be perturbed at people hanging out to watch a parade that you paid for for free. I just think some people on this board like claim that paying more for something (like a party) gives them more perks that those who don't when it meets their needs. Many of these posters feel it is perfectly fine to take up a hammock at the Poly while paying a discounted rate at the All Stars. I just think they can't have it both ways.

 

[luckyprincess]

Can I just say, luckyprincess, that I enjoy reading your thoughts and observations, and I am sorry some people find the need to get so nasty sometimes? I find your posts to be respectful and insightful. There is no harm in you stating that the parties are not for you and your reasons for that. You are certainly entitled to your opinion!

Thank you!! It gets frustrating sometimes when I really haven't tried to offend!

 

[mrbghd]

Thank you!! It gets frustrating sometimes when I really haven't tried to offend!

Unfortunately their are dopes all over, including these boards. Enjoy your trip at the AKL

 

[Suellen]

Many of these posters feel it is perfectly fine to take up a hammock at the Poly while paying a discounted rate at the All Stars. I just think they can't have it both ways.

I still don't understand the attraction of doing something like this.

I mean really? People trek from a value resort all the way over to a deluxe resort to use the amenities? I don't get it. I like to be near my stuff. We pool hopped over to Fort Wilderness as we had friends staying there and it was the biggest pain in the behind ever! And we had a place to be and change and leave our stuff and all that... but still. Lugging wet suits and towels around was a huge pain!

I don't see the attraction. And who.... back to your regularly scheduled programming.

 

[d1gitman]

I got yer doomed thread smiley right here...

best post of the night!

 

[luckyprincess]

Actually, luckyprincess is one of the nicest and most helpful people we have on these boards. She had a logical question about a policy and I believe she stated it a TON better then most people would have. It's a hot topic situation and if you don't agree with someone, then you might take it a bit personal. I saw no snarkiness...

But that might just be because I have seen way too many threads like these over the past few years... and this one has actually been one of the nicer ones. Personally, a part of me agrees with what she has observed. However, Disney's parks mean Disney's rules. That's the way life works.
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Thank you so much! I didn't know this was a hot button topic, either! Haven't been around long enough, I guess.

 

[luckyprincess]

Unfortunately their are dopes all over, including these boards. Enjoy your trip at the AKL

Thank you!! I will

 

[LilyWDW]

Thank you so much! I didn't know this was a hot button topic, either! Haven't been around long enough, I guess.

Well, honestly, it seems these days just about everything is a hot button topic LOL. I mean, I have seen regular old threads fall into fights because of people posting OBVIOUSLY ridicules posts that are meant to stir the pot. It seems there has been an influx of posters who make me think "why are you even here?".

Heck, I am almost afraid to post on anything these days. I can be pretty blunt and to the point, no sugar coating things as I don't think that helps people. But even if you post Disney policy or information that can be backed with a simple search, you have people acting like you attacked them.

*hugs* luckyprincess... all I do is laugh the cruddy posts off and shake my head. Ignore the people who attack ya. They are not worth the time or energy.

 

[BradyBz12]

Well, honestly, it seems these days just about everything is a hot button topic LOL.

Yep. Here's the short list of topics sure to go off the rails...

- refillable mugs
- height restrictions
- EMH
- parking at resorts
- cutting in line (just run far and fast from that one)
- saving parade spots
- hard ticket parties....

Well, pretty much any topic you can think of really!

Don't sweat it. Shove 8 gajillion people from all over the world on a message board and there are bound to be dust ups. Sometimes over nothing.

 

[RMulieri]

The fact is this ....POSTED party times are 7pm-12a..For whatever reason Disney decided , they started the 'letting people in at 4pm with just a party ticket'....It is NOT published anywhere publicly to my knowledge. Since it isn't ,Disney can CHANGE IT WHENEVER they choose.If they decide this year they aren't letting people in at 4pm, then they aren't. As for day guests exiting , if they are in a ride queue at 7pm they are allowed to ride and then expected to exit without lingering.People that do not have a party bracelet have been turned away trying to enter ride lines at 7pm.I have seen cms stop people on lines for the bathroom, stores and food lines as early as 705pm and told they needed to exit the park..Now I guess some of those people could have been in line beforehand...BUT if they let every single person without a party ticket buy something, eat something or ride something at 705pm then they would NEVER clear the park and they may as well make the party free to all guests.I really wish they would go back to closing and clearing the park .The party could simply be from 8p-1am like it was .

 

[Planogirl]

I think that clearing the park is a good idea too. I for one have no interest in these parties and I'm certainly not going to leave the park early to make it convenient for anyone. I would likely leave early anyway to avoid the crowds but CM's asking me to leave early would just be met with refusal.

 

[Michelle and crew]

I think that clearing the park is a good idea too. I for one have no interest in these parties and I'm certainly not going to leave the park early to make it convenient for anyone. I would likely leave early anyway to avoid the crowds but CM's asking me to leave early would just be met with refusal.

Isn't that the truth! But I am stubborn that way!

 

[luckyprincess]

I think that clearing the park is a good idea too. I for one have no interest in these parties and I'm certainly not going to leave the park early to make it convenient for anyone. I would likely leave early anyway to avoid the crowds but CM's asking me to leave early would just be met with refusal.

I agree closing the park is probably the best idea. It seems to work elsewhere, according to some posters. That way you don't have people feeling entitled to 3 free hours at MK and you don't have people scamming to stay for free to the Halloween party - it's a win win

Oh, and if the park closed at 7 and someone was trying to make me leave early I would also refuse. That's ridiculous....