Why was Dixie Landings converted to Port Orleans?

[TDC Nala]

I can't see how the word Dixie can be offensive. I remember when Dixie Landings was called that and I wanted to stay there becasue of its Southern theme. I am staying there this summer only in the FQ.

As far as the possible reasons for it being offensive, wouldn't the entire old-South theme be offensive and not just the name?

I do recall that at the same time as the merger occurred, they renamed the lounge at POR. Its former name was Cotton Co-op. It's now called River Roost.

MGM, LasVegas, reduced the size and number of lion statues at the entrances. In some cultures the lion is a symbol of bad luck and MGM didn't want to upset customers.

Interesting. I wonder how the persons from those cultures feel when they actually enter the casino and find out they keep live lions in there.

 

[Sammie]

anything can be offensive to anyone. I am sure to some the Germany pavillion is offensive, to some Native Americans the Wilderness Lodge might be offensive, to others AKL.

There is no way that at any given time someone will not be offended about something and since Disney never made an official announcement we truly do not know.

I would have to agree with Nala though if the word Dixie is offensive I would think that the resort and it's theme would be too as well as Splash Mt.

 

[MiaSRN62]

G8r4evr asks : Just curious, why the 50 year restriction?

Disney did not set it up as a traditional timeshare---but rather a pre-paid vacation for 50 years. This is disney....I just don't think they would want anyone to permanently "own" something that is theirs ? DVC is as close to "owning" a piece of the magic (besides being a stock holder) as one can get I guess. DVC should not be viewed as a real estate investment. Hope this helps a bit.

 

[JWG]

Just curious, why the 50 year restriction?

Because DVD (the subsidiary of Disney that operates DVC) does not own the properties they are building. Some other Disney company (either the resorts or other) still own the land and are giving DVD/DVC use of the land for 50 years. When the 50 year deal runs out, the land reverts back to the original owners.

Yes, I get all of these are Disney and therefore, regardless, Disney owns the property. But they are leasing from one operating company to another. Could Disney deside to extend the leases and deals? Yes. Will they? Hard to say. Also hard to say how many people will be interested in staying in a 50 year old resort that's suffered through Florida heat, weather and humidity. It may be better to strike the buildings and start over.

Anyway, the answer to your questions is because that's the amount of time that the property belongs to DVD/DVC. Its "rented" out.

 

[jenandkam]

Mabye its offensive to some black people and some white folks as well. Its offensive to me when someone thinks that all people of one race or color have the same opinion as everyone else in that race or color.

The word Dixie should be offensive to all Americans since it calls to mind one of the darkest periods in American and even human history. The fact that it doesn't really says something about us as a people.
By the way....I'm a Texan, not a "yankee" (another offensive word, IMHO)!

 

[CanadianGuy]

Ironically.. the themed dinner show in the Orlando area... called "Dolly Parton's Dixie Stampede" doesn't seem to suffer for having the word "Dixie" in it..

Maybe the words "Dolly" and "Parton" make that "Dixie" ok.

Knox

 

[drogerstn]

The word Dixie should be offensive to all Americans since it calls to mind one of the darkest periods in American and even human history. The fact that it doesn't really says something about us as a people. ...

This is because a lot of us focus on the positives rather than the negatives when looking at a society or culture.

Many people find positive points in their heritage to take pride in, sometimes even parts that would be considered terrible in today's standards. There is nothing wrong with that as long as we don't forget the bad parts to the point of repeating them.

 

[Robert P]

This is because a lot of us focus on the positives rather than the negatives when looking at a society or culture.

Many people find positive points in their heritage to take pride in, sometimes even parts that would be considered terrible in today's standards. There is nothing wrong with that as long as we don't forget the bad parts to the point of repeating them.

Well said drogerstn, well said indeed.

 

[Poohbear123]

Ironically.. the themed dinner show in the Orlando area... called "Dolly Parton's Dixie Stampede" doesn't seem to suffer for having the word "Dixie" in it..

Maybe the words "Dolly" and "Parton" make that "Dixie" ok.

Knox

So true.

 

[jenandkam]

This is because a lot of us focus on the positives rather than the negatives when looking at a society or culture.

Many people find positive points in their heritage to take pride in, sometimes even parts that would be considered terrible in today's standards. There is nothing wrong with that as long as we don't forget the bad parts to the point of repeating them.

Perhaps we should just call is Auschwitz Landings since, by your logic, the name "Dixie" only represents a physical place and the implications that the word has to millions of people, or the atrocities that happened in that place should have no meaning when it comes to whether or not someone should or should not find offense in the word.

I agree that it is always better to focus on the positive rather than the negative, which just strengthens my point that perhaps we should not shout out possibly the most negative period in our history as a country with the word "Dixie".

 

[drogerstn]

Perhaps we should just call is Auschwitz Landings since, by your logic, the name "Dixie" only represents a physical place and the implications that the word has to millions of people, or the atrocities that happened in that place should have no meaning when it comes to whether or not someone should or should not find offense in the word.

I agree that it is always better to focus on the positive rather than the negative, which just strengthens my point that perhaps we should not shout out possibly the most negative period in our history as a country with the word "Dixie".

If you want to pick and choose a negative time period to associate with every location or society on earth, you'll need to rename a lot of places, including the United States of America.

 

[jenandkam]

If you want to pick and choose a negative time period to associate with every location or society on earth, you'll need to rename a lot of places, including the United States of America.

Good rebuttal, the strength of your argument is incredible...I take it this debate is over?

 

[drogerstn]

Good rebuttal, the strength of your argument is incredible...I take it this debate is over?

Thanks; glad you see the light.

 

[Tam1067]

Ironically.. the themed dinner show in the Orlando area... called "Dolly Parton's Dixie Stampede" doesn't seem to suffer for having the word "Dixie" in it..

Maybe the words "Dolly" and "Parton" make that "Dixie" ok.

Knox

I haven't been to this show in Orlando, but we did go to the one in Pigeon Forge. I have to say that the audience was very, very white. I assume the one in Orlando plays to mostly white audiences as well, or to people who do not associate Dixie with the slavery and racism of our history. In general, people of European heritage (or white in most common usage) tend not to be put off by the term as much as African-Americans would be on the whole.

I think Dolly plays to a certain niche audience, and though her show does not even touch on racism at all, it does glorify the old South (conveniently forgetting the slaves) and then stress a happy ending of everyone uniting under American patriotism. Disney, on the other hand, wants to appeal to all visitors. And even if a small percentage might be offended, they will want to avoid the controversy if possible, so Dixie Landings will be Port Orleans.

 

[Sammie]

Perhaps we should just call is Auschwitz Landings since, by your logic, the name "Dixie" only represents a physical place and the implications that the word has to millions of people, or the atrocities that happened in that place should have no meaning when it comes to whether or not someone should or should not find offense in the word.

I agree that it is always better to focus on the positive rather than the negative, which just strengthens my point that perhaps we should not shout out possibly the most negative period in our history as a country with the word "Dixie".

And you don't feel that the treatment of the American Indian was a negative period in our history.

Atrocities have not been limited to one area of the country since the beginning this country. You might want to watch the Last of the Mohicians to witness some serious atrocities in NY.

To many the word Dixie means a type of music. If you find the word Dixie offensive then that is your right, but to speak for others is a little presumptive. And to assume that anyone that does not find the particular word offensive less than you is arrogant. To some the word Texan is offensive.

It is also distrupting that your sensitivity is limited to this time period and as you put it, "that place".

 

[JWG]

I think the original question was answered and this thread can end.
I'm all for political and moral debate, but this seems like hardly the place.

Its now POR and POFQ - they combined management into one resort and there you have it.

NEXT...

 

[CanadianGuy]

It pains me to say it -- buit if you want to debate the merits of the word "Dixie" , as a name for a resort, a paper cup or anything else, this is NOT the board for it. Take it to the community board or someplace else.

If you have information on why the resort had it's name changed .. this thread is still open..

For now.

Knox

 

[minijeanie]

I can't see how the word Dixie can be offensive. I remember when Dixie Landings was called that and I wanted to stay there becasue of its Southern theme. I am staying there this summer only in the FQ.

I feel the same way.

wonder if Dixie Carter the actress, is upset that they her name is no longer a disney resort