tripletsmama
DIS Veteran
- Joined
- Jul 7, 2006
When they unload the bags from your vehicle? When they deliver them to your room? Both?
I'd suggest you look at a number of etiquette sites where you'll find the usual and customary is to tip at the final destination of the bag. That they've made it more complicated and involved multiple groups is an issue for them to deal with, not the customer. Worst case scenario is it works like the usual for valet (standard is to tip on pick up only), where one group gets paid one direction and the other on the opposite direction.When they unload the bags from your vehicle? When they deliver them to your room? Both?
Maybe I'm a hard-liner, but I don't view Disney's decision to outsource the front portico of the resorts to a separate contractor to be my concern. I tip when the bags arrive in my room. If the bellmen and vallets have a method of pooling tips, that's great. If they don't, I'm very sorry but I'm afraid it hasn't changed the way I do tips.
When we're leaving, I'll tip the bellman who picks up the bags, as I'll generally walk with him/her to the car.
If we're switching resorts for a split stay, I'll tip both the bellman who picks up the bag and the bellman who delivers them to the new room. In that case, I don't view double-tipping as inappropriate because I'd never expect tips to be pooled across resorts.
First a Disclaimer, I despise both the system that has generated tipping and having anyone mess with my things. I try to avoid both whenever possible and legitimate. Call it a minor phobia if you want. I also try to either avoid housekeeping in the room or be there when they're cleaning. However, one cannot always avoid them and I'm not afflicted enough such that I can't deal with it. My approach in general is I tip to a standard and if there are reasons to vary from that standard (up or down), I do so. Maybe it's raining or the bags are particularly heavy or any one of a number of other variables. A couple of examples, my wife and I commonly share a meal and we often have discounts or coupons. Both situations where I would routinely give more for good service. I know some people come from areas where they are more required to tip up front or there are repercussions, that's not tipping it's extortion but I know it happens.As Dean mentions above, most etiquette sites will tell you you tip when you *get* the bags, not when you *give* them. So, if you drop your carryons with Bell Services, and pick them up (or have them delivered) later, you'd tip on pick up/delivery, not drop off.
I tend to follow the "tip on pick up" rules for both valet and bell services, with one exception. When I have Bell Services come pick up my Owners Locker, I tip them for that service. I also tip more generously for a delivery to my room than if I'm picking them up at the Bell Services desk.
We tip when unloading and when they bring to the room. I figure the guys unloading are organizing our stuff to keep it safe (they are also storing our groceries). So we usually tip one dollar per suitcase per trip out or in. I have also tipped the valet who calls a taxi for us--just seems the right thing to do and they are always Johnny on the spot. We always add that in to our budget and carry an envelope of 50-$1.
We also leave at least $10 for mousekeeping on T&T day and Check out.
I just somehow feel wrong watching someone unload all my bags and then walking off without tipping them. That's why I wanted to know what the standard is. The fact that Disney outsourced the valets makes me feel even more obligated to double tip. Who knows!
I think for many part of it is they subconsciously feel guilty about being able to take such vacations, I'll reference you to those that speak to the income level of the tipped position as a likely example of this situation.For some reason people tend to tip extra while on vacation, I guess giving someone money makes us feel good.
Bill