Vent -- Why are passports so expensive??

The passport application needs both parents if the child is 16 & under.

Not for separated parents. The new application allows a parent to send in a letter to the effect that they have sole custody and don't know where the other parent is. This way, kids of deadbeats aren't punished and prevented from international travel just because their other parent can't bothered to be around.

ExPirateShopGirl, thanks for your posts. I have been debating taking my son to Europe this year, but have been worried about all of the travel hassles with requiring proof of "permission" to take him out of the country. It is good to know that once his passport is approved, we won't have a problem.

Ironically, my son's father is not eligible for a passport due to his extreme child support arrears (over $40K). :rolleyes1
 
I dropped a cool $700 for 5 passports (2 adults, 3 kids) We had to buy them because we are moving (Army) to Germany and will travel, but I just felt silly having my newborns picture taken when she already (3 months ago) looks totally different from that picture. I get the reason why they make children renew every 5 years (heck, maybe they should do it more) but the price is just about as much as an adult passport?!?!
The biggest money saver you can do with passports is NOT to get the picture taken at the post office! They charged me $15 per person, then I found out I could've saved money getting them anywhere else!
 
I agree with this.

The Passport is THE BEST form of ID that there is. It contains all the info of the birth certificate plus your photo. It is the gold standard of identification. Most times where you need multiple IDs, if you have the passport, you don't need any other forms.

I remember when I was 16 and getting my drivers license. My friends were having trouble scrounging up all the various types of ids necessary to get a drivers license (one from column a and one from column b, etc). I had a passport, and that was the ONLY form of ID I needed to show at the DMV to get my license. It was SO much easier.

AMEN! IMO, everyone should have a passport. It is the single best form of identification.

Since my kids have gotten their passports, they've been to Europe and on 3 cruises. You have a passport, the world is open to you.

For those who complain about the government charging so much for something you choose to use, that's just it. You have a choice. Don't like it, don't get it. There are many of us that are more than willing to pay for it. If I needed to get one for the first time, I'd consider it part of the vacation expense and budget appropriately.
 
PASSPORT PHOTOS at COSTCO are 5 bucks!

I dropped a cool $700 for 5 passports (2 adults, 3 kids) We had to buy them because we are moving (Army) to Germany and will travel, but I just felt silly having my newborns picture taken when she already (3 months ago) looks totally different from that picture. I get the reason why they make children renew every 5 years (heck, maybe they should do it more) but the price is just about as much as an adult passport?!?!
The biggest money saver you can do with passports is NOT to get the picture taken at the post office! They charged me $15 per person, then I found out I could've saved money getting them anywhere else!
 
Mine was $120 (British). So far this year alone, I've got 3 trips planned where I'll have to use it - cost per trip already down to $40. Even if you take 1 trip each year, it's $12/trip (if I continue at this rate, the cost will be just $4/trip). Well worth it for the opporunity to visit other countries, learn about other cultures and enjoy travelling IMO.

The US is lucky; you have a HUGE volume of space to "play" in without a passport. You've got snow-topped mountains, amazing geological formations, hot beaches, entire cities devoted to theme parks or casinos, desert, lakes and two entire oceans. There's not much space to "play" over here..: that's why almost all Brits own a passport :upsidedow
 
Mine was $120 (British). So far this year alone, I've got 3 trips planned where I'll have to use it - cost per trip already down to $40. Even if you take 1 trip each year, it's $12/trip (if I continue at this rate, the cost will be just $4/trip). Well worth it for the opporunity to visit other countries, learn about other cultures and enjoy travelling IMO.

The US is lucky; you have a HUGE volume of space to "play" in without a passport. You've got snow-topped mountains, amazing geological formations, hot beaches, entire cities devoted to theme parks or casinos, desert, lakes and two entire oceans. There's not much space to "play" over here..: that's why almost all Brits own a passport :upsidedow

What I don't understand, is breaking it down into how many uses you get. The reason, I believe is the INITIAL outlay of money... for us, a family of three ZI believe is close to $500... that's a big outlay on top of the cost of the cruise. If you start breaking things down.. you could say that million dollar houses are cheap because if you break in down into how many days you use it.. if you use it for 30 years.. it's only $91 a day.. cheaper than disney... I don't know.. maybe I'm cranky today, but this breakdown is getting to me!
 
What I don't understand, is breaking it down into how many uses you get. The reason, I believe is the INITIAL outlay of money... for us, a family of three ZI believe is close to $500... that's a big outlay on top of the cost of the cruise. If you start breaking things down.. you could say that million dollar houses are cheap because if you break in down into how many days you use it.. if you use it for 30 years.. it's only $91 a day.. cheaper than disney... I don't know.. maybe I'm cranky today, but this breakdown is getting to me!

Even if you don't do that, it's $120 for the ability to go wherever you want, whenever you want :confused3 To me, that's worth a lot! Yes - I can see it's an initial investment, but $12/year isn't unreasonable by any standards.

Also, as I said, you're fortunate in that you're a citizen whereby you don't need to even leave the country you live in to experience a vast, vast range of different landscapes, places and people. I would LOVE to visit lots of different parts of the US, but I have neither the time nor the money :(
 
Depends upon how you do the math. You've done it one way, here's the other: You pay $135 for a passport, and you use it twice in the ten years. That's $67.50 per use, which isn't much of a value IF a free option exists. Both are valid ways of looking at the cost.

It doesn't matter how many times you use it, it still comes down to $13.50 per year. Pretty cheap for the best form of idea you can have.
 
Not for separated parents. The new application allows a parent to send in a letter to the effect that they have sole custody and don't know where the other parent is. This way, kids of deadbeats aren't punished and prevented from international travel just because their other parent can't bothered to be around.

ExPirateShopGirl, thanks for your posts. I have been debating taking my son to Europe this year, but have been worried about all of the travel hassles with requiring proof of "permission" to take him out of the country. It is good to know that once his passport is approved, we won't have a problem.

Ironically, my son's father is not eligible for a passport due to his extreme child support arrears (over $40K). :rolleyes1

I would bring that letter, though.

My friend, whose ex-husband has never even met their daughter, brings her documentation with her when they go out of the country. It's for the "just in case" moments.

What if, 3 days before you guys leave, there's a widely publicized case of a mom taking her children off to her home country while going through a nasty divorce? Sure they were happy when they got the passports, but the courts might have ordered her to stay put...and she decides to leave instead. And because so few people at the airport check for those notarized "permission" slips, she manages to get her kids out before anyone is aware.

Then 3 days later you get to the airport without any father there and with no stated information of why it's just the two of you...

Sure, the likelihood is low (though there was a case just like it a few years ago shortly before we were traveling (domestically)), but just to have it with you...might not be needed, but IF it is needed you'd be glad you have it.
 
We have to renew ours every 5 years here. I think it's a pain, but the cost is not that bad I dont think. They charge $67 every time you renew it, but you do have to add the cost of redoing pictures as well which is probably another $20.00 or so. For the amount of times we have used ours, I think it's been well worth it, and when you look at dividing the cost every year, its not to bad.
 
I dropped a cool $700 for 5 passports (2 adults, 3 kids) We had to buy them because we are moving (Army) to Germany and will travel, but I just felt silly having my newborns picture taken when she already (3 months ago) looks totally different from that picture. I get the reason why they make children renew every 5 years (heck, maybe they should do it more) but the price is just about as much as an adult passport?!?!
The biggest money saver you can do with passports is NOT to get the picture taken at the post office! They charged me $15 per person, then I found out I could've saved money getting them anywhere else!

You can get a FREE passport photo with AAA premiere membership. I am assuming that both DH and I get a free photo since we are both members.
 
In my experience, cruise lines are very proactive in making sure you have any documentation that MIGHT be needed to reenter the country. Even more so than the airlines for som reasons.
Well, think about it: It's in their best interests to MAKE SURE you're going to be able to get back into the US.

If at the end of your cruise, you can't pass through US Customs, where are you stuck? In the cruise line's terminal. They can't put you back on the ship. They can't let you stay there in the terminal. You're their responsibility because you're in their building.

On the other hand, if you can't get through Customs at the airport, you're in the airport's terminal, which does not belong to the airline. You're on your own. You're not their responsibility.
I always take my passport when I fly - even domestically. I've never been tapped for the additional security screening when I show my passport as my form of ID at the airport. My ex would always get tapped when he used his military ID rather than DL or passport.
To tell an opposite story: My husband was detained for several hours and was taken into the "small room" to be checked recently on a trip to Canada. He says they went through every item in his suitcase, felt the cuffs and seams in his pants, etc. And he was traveling with his passport. When they found nothing, they turned him lose without so much as a word of apology -- he said he wanted to complain, but he knew it was in his own best interest to get out of their as fast as he could. Anyway, the point: A frequent business traveler, he was traveling with his passport.
but the price of most items are not dependant on the number of uses. If you brought a lawn mower or snow blower you couldn't go into sears and say, listen I only plan on using this one time would you lower the price? Or if you buy a dvc time share, you can't go to Disney and say "you know, could you drop the price 5 grand, I only plan on using it for 2 or 3 trips". The price is fixed and the value comes in using it more than once but that does not change the selling point.
Yeah, those things are not priced "by number of uses", but it makes sense before purchasing them to think about how often you're going to use them.

If you're only going to need to mow a lawn only once or twice in the next 10 years, it makes perfect sense to forego buying the mower and just hire someone to mow for you. Similary, if you're only going to take a cruise once or twice in the next 10 years, it makes perfect sense to use the free option.

On the other hand, if you're going to mow your own lawn every week, buying the mower is a good value. Just as if you're going to take other international trips, buying the passport is a good value.
The US is lucky; you have a HUGE volume of space to "play" in without a passport. You've got snow-topped mountains, amazing geological formations, hot beaches, entire cities devoted to theme parks or casinos, desert, lakes and two entire oceans. There's not much space to "play" over here..: that's why almost all Brits own a passport :upsidedow
Which makes perfect sense to me. Also, it doesn't cost you much to travel across an international border. For me, it's quite a distance and expensive.
It doesn't matter how many times you use it, it still comes down to $13.50 per year. Pretty cheap for the best form of idea you can have.
It matters to me. The number of uses determines whether it's a good value for the money. $13.50 per year IF it just sits in the safe is pretty expensive.

On the other hand, if you USE IT REGULARLY, it's a great deal.
 

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