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GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes
If it’s still here tomorrow… I may ignore it again
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I'm going to join in
And a right grand
to you!Glad to have you along.
Being as I let this one get into the deep freeze before finding time to get back to it, Im surprised the Mods didnt lock it. Im more surprised given that track record, anyone else would want to join in. Thanks for surprising me and I hope to be a bit more, shall we say, punctual with the updates.
Captain_Oblivious
DIS Dad #257, Galactic Salad Dodger
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That Bugs Bunny short up there has nothing to do with this TR. /I'm not sure you ever really need a good reason to post a Looney Tunes episode.
I hate this place.
On second thought, that's not half bad.
Explosions work for me.
Or blow right past on your way to Harry Potter.
This is also how people get stuck on IASW.
That one sounds pretty cool. Would it appeal to a hypothetical person who can't stand huge drops?
Sounds tasty. Pretzel rolls make just about any sandwich better.
Oh yeah, such a shame to see whats-his-face go.
Shoot the hostage. Er, I mean, hop in line.
Um...sure. Just blow something up already.
Sounds like fun!
I do actually miss that one.
No Agents J and K? Not even a little bit?
*spit take*
+1
This means "Avoid At All Costs".
Booooo. Philistines.
Um....right, 12-year-olds. Yeah.
I don't think my reaction would be family-friendly.
Why is all the rum gone?!
afwdwfan
DIS Dad #460
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I know you're into this whole spy, Mission Impossible theme, but since yesterday was Top Gun day I'm going to choose to reference that particular Tom Cruise film. I'm talking about the scene where Charlie tells Mav that a MiG 28 can't do a 4G negative dive and he tells her about his 4G inverted dive with a MiG at 2 meters... yeah, that was a cool moment.
We hit the park when it opened, headed straight to HP, rode with maybe a 10 minute "wait." We never hit any kind of a line until the portrait room, and even then we just slowed and never actually came to a stop until we go to the loading area. We rode it, the Hippogriff and then waited 15 minutes on a mechanical failure for the Hippogriff before heading around to JP, Spidey and Hulk with virtually no wait.
The kids rode in Suess, the adults took turns going back to check out HP if they so desired and we were done in IoA by noon. 
Let's be honest here... you're leaving out the big one. "Thing" shirts. You see them everywhere around Disney! Universal's marketing department is more than getting even for any rogue mouse ears with this element alone.
From the sounds of things it will definitely be living up to it's name soon...
That is basically all you need to know about Poseidon's Fury.
I love the proximity of the parks. And the various eateries and watering holes located in between.
Ain't that the truth...
Many of the changes for the better. But I certainly miss King Kong. And Jaws. And Marty McFly.
We totally missed out on the Minions. Would have loved to have ridden it... and DS would have really loved to have ridden it if he were tall enough.
That's where dark side screwed up considerably. In fact, I'm sure we'd have found a way to slip across town during our upcoming trip if it weren't for the fact that our kids can't do jack crap there. 
Eh... it's a'ight.
Definitely wouldn't stand in line to see it, but the effect of the wind and the funnel cloud forming right in front of you is kind of impressive. 
Great place!! I've spent the better part of an afternoon in there with friends partaking of several appetizers and a beverage... or 2... or 10.
Wow. Double win! Well played!
Well... maybe not necessarily those exact experiences, but I do miss the behind the scenes, "this is how it is done" type experiences. Both at Universal and Disney Hollywood Studios. They have been replaced by newer, better things, but I was fascinated by those types of shows and they were fun. And you might actually learn a thing or 2. That must be why they're gone now. We can't make people think too much.
And that picture alone has me re-thinking our decision to pass on Universal/IoA this time around.
I would steamroll anyone between me and the entrance to that queue.
What??? Really??? Just watch the movie!!! What's not to like about a movie that has fast cars, big robots, fire, explosions, and Megan Fox hanging all over an old Camaro???
I really do like it. And the queue is pretty cool. But the ride itself kind of falls somewhere between Buzz Lightyear and Toy Story Mania. Better than Buzz, but it ain't no TSMM.
Yeah... I get dizzy on those things. I walk out of that one feeling like crap and barely remembering what I just saw. I can't do it twice in a day, but I'm always ready to go back for more next time!
You pretty much just explained it... It was an original building when the park opened. Back in those days the gift shop at the exit wasn't quite as ubiquitous as it is today.
Disney names???
Cover blown!!!! 
You're right. It is no Hulk. But truly, I think it is just as good, but for different reasons.
Consider coming back... dang, it has been a long time on this TR. I don't remember what your initial plans were... I thought you were just doing one day at Universal. Heck, you've done everything of note but 2 rides. Might as well just suck it up, suffer the wait and be done with your visit to enemy territory.
If that hypothetical person enjoys the hills and drops found on Thunder Mountain and Space Mountain, the darkness of Space, and the backwards portion of Everest, then yes. Emphatically yes.That one sounds pretty cool. Would it appeal to a hypothetical person who can't stand huge drops?
GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes
If it’s still here tomorrow… I may ignore it again
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Good point!
Here have another
In fact Have two!
A couple of my favorites.
An understandable reaction
See it does have its moments.
Explosions work for everyone
Or blow right past on your way to Harry Potter.
A better plan from my point of view.
But you just started over recently, so if you get down there at some point in the next six or seven years, Youll be spending a bit of time there.
Yup.
Short wait times should generally be seen as a warning rather than an opportunity.
That one sounds pretty cool. Would it appeal to a hypothetical person who can't stand huge drops?
Bet on it.They do.
Its become a bit of a trend though and gets over done from time to time now, but in this instance the combination was just about perfect.
I knew youd be crushed.
Pop quiz!
And you passed with flying colors.
Not to worry, theyll get around to it directly.
Yah, shame they couldnt keep Jaws around, but they are limited in the space department.
Exactly why Walt bought a chunk of land the size of San Diego back in the 60s.
Well
Maybe we did ride it and they just neuralized us at the exit and planted the memory of having been on The Simpsons ride instead. It coulda happened like that.
Thats one interpretation of the facts.
And probably a good one at that.
Just no accounting for some folks lack of taste is there.
Um....right, 12-year-olds. Yeah.
I do believe that you still qualify as a 12-year-old.
Mine would not have been either. I guarantee
Because I was thirsty Dummy
(to paraphrase Little Enos)
Now just what makes you think Id be even slightly interested in any notion of going off topic?
Do carry on.
Nicely done. I forget, were yall staying on site?
That would have changed our approach to be sure.
Hummmm yah thats the ones I saw from time to time and mostly out in the WS for some reason. But still not near as much as I encountered the opiset over at the dark side. Of course, I also wasnt paying near as much attention to such once we got back to The World so my memory may be blissfully faulty here.
From the sounds of things it will definitely be living up to it's name soon...
I am forced to concur on that point.
Its the one upside to their space limitations.
And thats the downside of those space limitations.
They dont have room to keep a classic.
You could spend all day in Suess LandingWe totally missed out on the Minions. Would have loved to have ridden it... and DS would have really loved to have ridden it if he were tall enough.
Eh... it's a'ight.
True, but now Ive seen it once
I dont foresee that happening again.
Great place!! I've spent the better part of an afternoon in there with friends partaking of several appetizers and a beverage... or 2... or 10.
The wait staff remembered you actually.
It was 15.
Wow. Double win! Well played!
Some times you get lucky.
And sometimes you let your kids talk you out of waiting for MIB.
Win some, lose some
At least theres still the makeup and costume effects show.
Pretty funny that one. Hope fully theyll keep it around a while yet.
And that picture alone has me re-thinking our decision to pass on Universal/IoA this time around.
Keep thinking
I believe youll get your priorities back in order pretty soon.
I would steamroll anyone between me and the entrance to that queue.
Is that the same strategy you were planning to use against Lebron James once the Pacers picked you up off wavers?
When I dropped my son and his buddy off to see that, a couple years back, they were far and away the oldest people standing in line for tickets. Id have felt like I was walking into a Chuck-E-Cheese.
If it shows up on regular cable some time, Ill watch it then.
I suspect the ride was far more entertaining.
Considering that we dont get down that near as often as some of yall, thats a moment when I should have overridden our younger compatriots. Youll see that I wont be making that same mistake very often from here on out.
I handle them better than most the Mrs. does, thats for certain. But weve figured out that the newer version that are on tracks are a lot easier for her to deal with. And thats a mighty good thing.
Disney names???
I think they were just glad that neither of them attempted to insert any type of profanity into their assumed identities.
GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes
If it’s still here tomorrow… I may ignore it again
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Chapter 5: Contrition
Part 1: Coming in from the Cold
Wed strayed
Left the warm confines of the known and disappeared behind the celluloid curtain that separates East form West;
the Lake roads from Lake Buena Vista;
Exit-75 from Exit-67.
A world away
With much of the operation completed, it was time to return to the safety of the known .
To pay our proper respects and atone for our transgressions
To come back into the light and out of the cold.
But rather than the ominous yet nondescript guard shack which once stood as the Cold Wars symbol for crossing over
we would be crossing through a different check point
But Im getting just a tad bit ahead of myself here.
First, wed a couple of lessons to learn.
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Half the Battle
So what was the main lesson learned during our foray into enemy territory?
Well actually it wasnt a lesson at all. It was an affirmation of something I well know
Rope Drop Matters.
Having re-re-learned that useful tidbit, what would you say our plan of action was for the next morning?
Why, to sleep in of course.
Remember Im traveling with semi-adult teens here and the predawn world is terra incognita as far as their concerned. Oh, mom and dad were up though and could easily have been waiting in line for the gates to open at any of the parks. Should we have just left them to their own devises? Almost certainly, but the parent in me, and more importantly the mother in my wife, just couldnt quite take our actions to that logical conclusion.
Not just yet at least.
While the boys were shambling around the room alternatively attempting to ready themselves for the day and reacquainting themselves with the concepts of language and verbal communication, I decided to partake of a bit of breakfast. We had packed an assortment of breakfast bars, nuts, dried fruit, pop-tarts and the like in order to facilitate quick grab and go breakfasts throughout the week. But this morning we also had an extra treat; beniegts that wed acquired from the French Quarter the night before
So I popped a couple of those light pastries into the complimentary microwave oven
punched up 15 seconds on the timer
and put the spurs to it.
I then learned my first practical lesson of the day
Do not reheat beniegts.
I was utterly stunned by the realization of just how something that was previously as light and delicate as mist clinging to a mountainside could be transformed into the culinary equivalent of mummified shoe leather. Microwaves are generally unkind to anything that can trace its origins back to some form of dough, but the total molecular devastation that it applied to Cajun Puff-Pastries came as quite the shock I tell you. Needless to say, those were scraped and we nibbled on the remaining slightly stale puffs at room temperature.
Morale? When it comes to beniegts
acquire them fresh out of the oil
hedonistically devour at once
repeat if possible
leave no crumb nor trace behind
Ever!
Once the youngens were properly assembled and ready to deal with both the daylight and the existence of humanity in general,
we proceeded to learn our next valuable lesson of the day
Drive.
Im a veteran consumer of the capable Disney transportation system, and have in previous trips found it to be useful and at times even effective. But over time as more and more resorts and DVC properties have come online, the amount of folks funneled into the system has made the busses a noticeable bit more crowded. Some of the routs with multiple stops and pick up points are also a bit of an issue. The real scourge though is the plethora of personal mobility devices that have descended upon The World and are apparently procreating at a rate that hamsters and jackrabbits would find concerning. A plague of locusts these things. Though helpful and even necessary to their occupants, once inflicted upon a random resort bus and its unsuspecting passengers they generate nothing short of mayhem. The first unfortunate consequence is that just one will immediately consume a three or four person bench seat thus displacing any prior occupants. The real issue though would be the inordinate amounts of time devoured in the necessary loading process. And Lord help if there are two or more to be dealt with. After one particularly epic bus journey during our previous visit to Disney, I decided that the next time I really should attempt to do the driving myself and determine just how difficult it actually was. Today was as good a day as any to put that plan into action. So I did. The results were enlightening. Turns out that even with the traffic congestion common during summer months, leaving the driving to ones self is vastly superior in both duration and quality of ride experience. Even in the heat. The roads markings, while not perfect, are a little better than one might think. And once youve done a couple of round trips, youll also get use to the quirks and tricks needed to beat Dis-Tran at their own game.
And now we know
It took less than 15 minutes total to climb into the car and arrive at our park destination for the day (and that even included one missed turn and the time needed to correct and learn form that mistake). The chosen destination as you should be aware from the earlier picture was
Disneys Hollywood Studios
(which I still at times refer to as MGM, much to the distain of the odd Cast Member)
Now driving your own vehicle does mean that you have to deal with the parking lots, but that also put us in contact with something that Id not directly experienced on property since I was a kid myself
Trams
Technically what youre looking at there is actually a Charabanc (as Ive explained in previous non sequitur TR musings), but in either case these buses are more relaxing then the regular ones and kinda add a bit of anticipation and even nostalgia to ones arrival at the park.
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Close Encounters
After the short trip aboard Tram 13A (a good omen as far as Im concerned), we slipped through the gates and quickly left them in our wake
Now we were truly back in from the cold and immersed in to the kind of storytelling and suspension of reality that Disney does better than most
(Yay, the big hat kinda spoils the view a bit, but I can live with that.)
A quick look up and to the right and I even encountered something that only occurs at Disney
The Hidden Mickey
wasnt even looking for that one.
Well at least now were here, but as you can see the park is already quite crowded.
The price of failure umm... I mean not making RD.
Well time to make the best of it then.
First order of business: head down Sunset Boulevard for our close-up errrrr close encounter with terror
There are actually two terrifying things in that picture and one of them was going to be having a great effect on most of the days decisions. Its not uncommon at Disney to have close encounters with large groups of young folks wearing matching tee-shirts and following guides who are all carrying long poles with a banner of some type. Seeing those banners poking up through the crowds is often a very bad sign when youre trying to exploit a Disney park. Once identified, you need to consider heading the other way as they tend to predict devastating effects on wait times. Worse yet, wed counted no less the nine separate occurrences of these obstacles between the front gate and the tower. Lord knows how many more were actually within the park. Averaging thirty to forty individuals per swarm, and always attempting to do the same thing at the same time, this was a virtual invasion. I began to suspect that the queues at the Studios were going to be a might clogged up today.
And clogged they were. The wait times for both of the major attractions on this side of the park were well beyond 90-min, but the fast-pass return time was better for the Tower then for the Caddies so we grabbed a few of those. The RnRC would have to wait for a bit later on in the day. From here we headed off for something we hoped would be a bit easier to access in a timely fashion. On the way we noticed that the wait time for the Great Movie ride of all things was 45-min. Thats just nutty! It had to be a function of the large number of tour groups in the park because no one whod ever seen it before would spend that kind of time on the GMR. Having identified this bad omen we steeled ourselves for what was likely to await us at our true destination.
On the upside, at least thered be copious amounts of shade from the South Florida heat
Oddly, the stand-by wait for the recently refurbished Star Tours was only 25-min.
I have no rational explanation for that when compared to the GMR, but I wasnt going to ignore a good opportunity to do a bit of space traveling.
Even with those guys in charge of the maintenance.
I like the way that the Imagineers have changed this ride to give you multiple and unpredictable experiences. Turns out though that somehow or other, Empire forces determined that there was a spy aboard our shuttle. And they were right, it was us. Wed been fingered! Fortunately though, they missed the mark when identifying said clandestine operatives and tried to pin the rap on a young girl sitting in the back of our ship instead. The pilot must have been in on the scam though as he did a good job of escaping from the docking bay and we were in hyper-space before the local bulk cruisers could do anything about it. That was close. For now at least our cover wasnt blown (it would have been nice, but thats how it goes). The rest of the trip was as good as ever and all agreed that the upgrades to the shuttle fleet were an unqualified Disney success. I do wish that theyd kept the Passport system that was offered during the rides grand reopening, but we cant have everything.
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Ups and Downs
Having made our way from Tatooine back to the Streets of America we first considered talking to Muppets
The down side to this quick plan was that theyd just locked the doors to the theater and there was already quite the queue load (including scores of those matching tee-shirts) waiting for even the next preshow. A bit of chronological math and it didnt seem like the rapid turnaround wed first considered it to be. On the upside though, our window for acquiring additional fast-passes was approaching. Being as HS is one of the smaller parks physically, crossing is back and forth a couple of times in a day is not all that prohibitive. So we did just that. Back down Sunset but this time we made the left at the end of the street and grabbed a few more passes to take in a rock concert latter on in the day. The down side of this was that it was going to be a good bit later (and nuke any realistic chance of our collecting any other passes for a long while). No time to sweat that now though, we were headed toward some very different ups and downs.
The unpredictable kind
Fact: I do not like free falls.
Absolutely hate them.
Ill go for speed, force and power anytime, but a gut wrenching drop is an experience to which Im completely adverse. And yet Ill purposely walk onto The Hollywood Tower of Terror.
Odd thing that.
A long while back when my son was considerably younger he wanted to ride the thing. Hes got no siblings, and his momma is just as adamant about not entering the tower as some of my other readers. I couldnt send him on his own at the time, but Max really wanted to do it. Sooooo I collected up my courage and took him for a little ride on an elevator
(cause being a dad thats what you do).
The preshow in a windowless and doorless library from another dimension does nothing to ease the anxieties of the fearful
The queue experience down in the bowels of the abandoned hotel then sets those trepidations into emotional concrete, but the boy was excited so I was already committed. Or maybe should have been committed. What surprised me most was that there is nothing more to restrain the individual rider then a simple lap-belt and a couple of handles to lock your claws around. I figured thered be need for more than that, but no. The first half of the ride is classic Disney dark-ride storytelling and dang effective in the telling. Its not until your car locks into the main shaft, and everything get very still and quiet for a moment that your heart stops.
I was waiting for the drop I knew Id hate when all of a sudden we shot straight up. Wasnt expecting that. This was speed and power; the exact things I like in a ride. Of course it was once we got to the top of the shaft and could look out across the entire park for a moment that the bottom dropped out of everything. When the tower drops you though, its not just a function of gravity. Instead it pulls you down. It may be that the additional force associated with this powered descent counteracts some of the nauseating effects of weightlessness. Or it may be that one might not necessarily fall very far before the car changes its mind and shoots you right back upward. Maybe the darkness helps with the change in directions or the fact that it does change direction in the first place alters the internal experience.
Whatever it is, Ill say this about it
I still hate free falls, but I love riding on the Tower.
What say feel like giving it a try yourself?
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Turning up the Heat
Upon leaving the obligatory gift shop we encountered something that had until then only offered up hints of its presence; the heat. By this time of the morning though, it was like being smacked on the side of the head with a wet carp that was on fire Good lord, itd gone straight from summer to inferno in less than an hour. Who order that? Not much one can do about that though save for hunting down some type of shade. In my experience, theaters are good suppliers of shade. And if said theater also supplies stunts and explosions, then itd be wrong of us not to take advantage of that shade. Thus we hit one of my all-time favorite offerings at HS:
I never tire of seeing the Indiana Jones Epic Stunt Spectacular!
I mean, its even got epic in its name so whats not to like?
Well despite that bit of hyperbole, it actually is.
Spectacular, I mean
Things being blown up is always good, right?
One problem though, we were among the last folks that made it into this showing and as a result, found ourselves sitting way down and way to the right of the theater. A good vantage point for catching the opening scene where Indi drops down into the temple
But not quite as good for some of the fight scenes. Like the point where Miriam repeatedly clocks an unsuspecting volunteer from the audience
Its still effective and quite funny, but at that extreme angle its interesting (and a little deflating) to see just how far away from one and other the actors really are when they deliver those choreographed blows. Sit nearly anywhere else in the theater, and the action appears to be much closer in and therefor more compelling. Now, the high wire stuff along the roof tops of the town however is thrilling to see from any point of view
But the best part of this show, for most guys at least, would be the explosions. Theres the truck early on in the action, and of course the great airplane fight scene at the finale. Problem is, from our vantage point, the first was way over on the other side of the theater, and the second was actually obscured by the camera crane and production folks positioned between us and the action
See what I mean.
Dont get me wrong, its still great to see. Decent pictures however, just werent happening. Also form this close in spot, you could see that all the pyrotechnics were spread far enough apart and away from the things that appeared to be exploding that it took a lot of the implied danger right out of it. You really need to be more toward the center of the theater for all the visuals to work as intended (or at least not on the very ends).
Net result, no truly great images of explosions can be offered up from our vantage point. As a consolation though, I offer someone elses considerably better view of one of these signature conflagrations
Now that is spectacular.
Next up: H8TRFFC and other instances of vanity
Captain_Oblivious
DIS Dad #257, Galactic Salad Dodger
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Surely everyone else learned this as well.
Sorry. I would have warned you if I could. It's even worse than trying to re-heat french fries.
It does.
Good one! Is that near the offices of Valiant & Valiant?
That's 45 minutes they'll never, ever get back. Ok, that makes no sense whatsoever, but I wouldn't complain one bit.Oh, good. A kindred spirit.
Totally with you on that.
...and you lost me there.
No, it doesn't. It doesn't help at all.
Me neither!
That stinks. Sorry the seats weren't the greatest.
Net result, no truly great images of explosions can be offered up from our vantage point. As a consolation though, I offer someone elses considerably better view of one of these signature conflagrations
Well, thanks for that at least.
afwdwfan
DIS Dad #460
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No. Drove over from Coronado Springs that morning.
And didn't even pay the extra for preferred parking.
True, but that other park...
Did the Blues Brothers still perform out in front? I know for a fact that they'll remember me.
Really?????
It is a good movie. The first one anyway. 2 is so/so but 3 is a little bit better. I can't wait to see the new one this summer! It has fast cars and explosions. Seriously. What's not to like? Make an effort to see it. I really don't think it is much of a kid's movie... maybe geared more towards the kids of the 80's who grew up playing with Transformers, but that isn't kids, it is the 20 - 30 year old crowd...
Oh yeah... good point. You're way too old for it. Nevermind.
Come on, man!! What? Not a fan of rubbery pastries??? The fact that you didn't save them to serve the boys for making you miss rope drop really disappoints me.
I love being in the "Disney bubble" and sometimes I do ride the bus just because I don't want to drive... Or I just want to enjoy the World Showcase...
But yeah. Driving is so much better than Disney transportation. If only you didn't have to jump through so many hoops at the MK.
No... I only see one terrifying thing in that picture. And as Nate would say... Brazillions!!!!!
Does Star Tours move people through faster??? I know GMR can take a huge crowd all at once, but Star Tours is moving smaller groups at a faster rate. I know I'd much rather stand in the Star Tours queue for 45 minutes.
I love free falls and I love riding ToT. And that's all I have to say about that.
However, for the experience, I'd wait in a decent line to ride ToT. But as far as one of those less reputable parks' tower rides that just take you up and drop you with no show or scenery associated with it... yeah, I'm not doing that unless it is a walk on.
I haven't seen it in the past couple of trips, but I think DS is old enough that he might enjoy it and I'm sure FiL will love it. We'll definitely make an effort to make a long overdue visit to this show.
Actually, I think it would be kind of cool to see it from that vantage.
Ok... those seats suck. I'm never sitting there. Ignore my last comment.
GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes
If it’s still here tomorrow… I may ignore it again
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Learning is one thing. Choosing to act on that knowledge however
Cant put nouthin past ol Ackbar, can ya?
Yep. Fries dont do well either, unless you reconfigure them.
We take left over fries, dice them and mix in a bowl with chopped ham, shredded cheeses, and leftover sautéed peppers and onions if we have em. That can be microwaved pretty effectively. Afterward stir in a few heaping spoons of a good salsa and it just gets better. Take the base mixture, add two or three eggs and heat that in a skillet on the stove top or in a hot oven for a bit and its better still.
Wouldnt be all that sorry to see that one go.
They need a better icon for HS.
I do believe youre right about that.
Serves em right, dont it?
And we didnt. Trust me on that one.
Oh, good. A kindred spirit.
Totally with you on that.
...and you lost me there.
Id have never climbed on the thing if my boy wasnt so determined to ride it.
Cant explaine why I do it now. Weird how that worked out.
No, it doesn't. It doesn't help at all.
What happens when Drew is looking at you heartbroken cause we wants to try it, and no one else will go with him?
Me neither!
Oh, good. A kindred spirit.
It happens. Ive seen it plenty, but now I know that if youre one of last ten folks allowed into the theater
It might be best just to wait for the next show.
Well, thanks for that at least.
We aim to please.
GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes
If it’s still here tomorrow… I may ignore it again
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No. Drove over from Coronado Springs that morning.
And didn't even pay the extra for preferred parking.
Ok, I was going to award a point for the first sentence.
But the second sentence took that point right back away.
You dont get the good parking for the hike into Universal, you get it for the painful slog back out.
Net result, you break even at zero.
But what I am going to do for you is laugh my *** off at you once you get old enough and broken enough to realize the wisdom of it.
So you got that goin for ya.
True, but that other park...
Granted a better choice.
Did the Blues Brothers still perform out in front? I know for a fact that they'll remember me.
Fifteen beers will do that to a person.
Really?????
I think the Fast and Furious films are a waste as well.
Some stories are so uninteresting that even an exploding car cant save em.
And now were in agreement on something.
Like I said, next time the first one is on regular cable Ill give it a try.
My thoughts exactly.
But Ill be letting them suffer from their bad decisions from about this point onward.
Rubbery would have been an upgrade.
These were tougher than a barbers strap.
But you spend so much time being disappointed with me, how would I have known?
Actually, I did play it that way. They just ignored them.
Theyre lazy, not foolish.
I love being in the "Disney bubble" and sometimes I do ride the bus just because I don't want to drive... Or I just want to enjoy the World Showcase...
Good point. If Im heading out with the intention of not being physically or legally incapable of driving afterward, the bus system will make for a very fine alternative indeed.
But yeah. Driving is so much better than Disney transportation. If only you didn't have to jump through so many hoops at the MK.
There is truth to that as well, but I also understand Walts original vision of wanting you to approach the MK either slowly by water or via a more futuristic form of transportation. The anticipation involved does build the excitement factors a bit.
No... I only see one terrifying thing in that picture. And as Nate would say... Brazillions!!!!!
Yes I do believe I have heard it expressed in those terms at one time of another.
Good question. It actually may just do precisely that. GMR does load a bunch at a crack but each of the Star Tours speeders also hold a fairly good number of folks per trip and there are more of them as well.
I love free falls and I love riding ToT. And that's all I have to say about that.
You know what the best part of being shot in the buttock is?
The boys are in agreement with you on this as well.
For that matter so am I.
I see you finally got something worthwhile out of this here TR.
Im pretty sure a good time will be had by allWell thats half the battle.
GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes
If it’s still here tomorrow… I may ignore it again
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Chapter 5: Contrition
Part 2: Taken for a Ride
Joubert: Can I drop you somewhere?
Turner: I'd like to go back to New York.
Joubert: You have not much future there... It will happen this way. You may be walking. Maybe the first sunny day of the spring, and a car will slow beside you, and the door will open, and someone you know, maybe even trust, will get out of the car. And he will smile a becoming smile, but he will leave open the door of the car and offer to give you a lift.
Turner: You seem to understand it all so well. What would you suggest?
Joubert: Personally, I prefer Europe.
*****
Any spy or covert operative should be very suspect when presented with a gracious offer of transportation; even more so if safety or sanctuary happen to be tendered as part of the bargain. So then why exactly did I spend most of the rest of my time at Hollywood Studios willingly climbing into other folks vehicles? Well I knew that some were completely benign, so no trouble there. As for the rest in that case no one offered any promises of sanctuary and certainly none related to safety, so I figured we had to be in the clear.
But again Im getting a bit ahead of myself, so lets get back to where we left off in the story line.
That happed to be over at the Indiana Jones theater I do believe
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A Power in Decline
The Epic-ness now over, we traveled away from the sudden bursts of heat caused by the controlled rapid oxidation of flammable liquids...
(I had to find a decent image from a previous trip, but really, it was inevitable that Id do so)
only to again be confronted by the inescapable radiant heat resulting from naturally controlled nuclear fusion reactions nearly 63 million miles from our current location.
We needed to find some more shade pronto. We needed an escape. Something that would get us under cover quickly, that would offer at least a modicum of entertainment value, and that just possibly may not be there the next time we get around to visiting
The Studio Backlot Tour.
While no longer even close to being the major draw it once was, the Tour is still the only way one can catch a good glimpse of the parks original and rightful icon: the Earful Tower. Or its smaller cousin for that matter
Actually, there is not a whole lot left of one of the parks original major attractions. Something which at first opening consumed as much as two hours and foolishly included no restroom stops along the way. Long gone are most of the walking tour parts of it and even the tram ride is shorter than originally envisioned (I mean, they havent driven down the middle of the New York streetscape in years). Its a bit sad really to think that for us, the major reasoning for choosing to hop on this particular attraction was driven mostly by the ambient temperature combined with sheer expediency.
But the truth can be harsh.
Rumors continue to swirl about the ultimate fate of this original park attraction. Grand visions have been bandied about that could also include the demise of the Light, Motors, Action! show, and maybe even the entire Streets of America Section of the park. These things may or may not come to pass, but in any case the old lot tour has seen better days and still occupies a great deal of valuable and underutilized real estate. Honestly, I suspect it may not reside long on this plane of existence. With this in mind we had at least one valid reason for deciding to give it a last parting shot. Besides, its still true that there was no line, it did come equipped with shade and even allowed for some keister time (weve a long day ahead of us yet).
What was once the middle of the ride, it now the beginning. The water tank (the only remaining film production portion of the proceedings) is still entertaining enough. Being the guest that gets to be torpedoed or have several tons of water dumped on them is still the rare Disney honor.
The Tram ride through now mostly abandoned workshops and greatly scaled back bone yards is a bit more pathetic then enlightening though. The derelict props that have been sitting in these old sections of the park are considerably worse for ware and most are not particularly current or topical. You do get to see a little behind the scenes action of the LMA! show which happened to be in progress at the time so that was pretty cool.
Wave to the nice tame stunt drivers everyone
Some say that he has some terrible plans, involving the moon,
and that all his potted plants are called Steve...
all we know is
Oh wait! Were on the wrong channel here
Change that back to 1247
**click, click, click, click, click**
while looking at older props slowly deteriorating in the Central Florida heat and humidity may be a bit lacking,
theres still the Catastrophe Canyon. To be reckoned with
Ok, thats better
The grand finale of the riding portion of the tour is still intact, but this too is a might long in the tooth
Yet, any excuse for simulated floods and more things exploding is still a welcome diversion.
Currently right after disembarking the tram (or would that be called detraming? Hummm oh well, no matter) there is an AFI exhibit of costumes, paraphernalia and related accoutrements associated with some of the great villains of film. This offers up some pretty cool eye candy and is worth spending a bit of time roaming around before exiting through the obligatory dump shop. All in all, a decent experience that Ill probably not spend any time on in the future. Its run its course.
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Diner and a Show
Wed seen some back stage artifacts, now it was time for some backstage munchies. Close by the Tours exit in the back of the Streets of America area youll find the Studio Catering Company. This quick service spot is rarely crowded and offers up something that is not very common on Disney property: Paninis.
The menu will list them as just a sandwich, but theyre paninis and not too bad either.
I went for the Toasted Tuscan Deli and for my trouble got:
Shaved Smoked Ham, Salami, Pepperoni, Provolone, Caesar Dressing, and Pesto-marinated Tomatoes, on a pressed Tuscan Roll
Kinda sloppy, but also unexpectedly tasty.
The classy lady among us had a Grilled Vegetable version of this which included:
Grilled Zucchini, Roasted Mushrooms and Red Peppers, Tomato Slices, Sun-dried Tomato Pesto and Provolone on a pressed Basil-Asiago roll
Even without a smidgen of meat on it, this may have been even better than my sandwich was.
The boys are pure carnivores through and through. They tend to avoid rabbit food at all costs. Theyre also a might less adventurous so being as this watering hole lacked a burger of any type (unusual for a Disney QS), they settled on the next closest thing: Sloppy Joes. Supposedly using a Chipotle Barbecue Sauce as the base and a decent amount of cheddar to cut the heat a bit, these were also better than I expected them to be.
The other thing this spot has going for it would be the adjacent counter offering up potent potables.
And a fairly wide range of them at that Just something to keep in mind.
Net result of all this?
We ended up getting a rather decent lunch at a quick service in Hollywood Studios.
Now theres a sentence I never really thought Id be writing.
With lunch now weighing heavy and the mid-day heat still neigh on to tormenting, what we needed now was something else cooling and a chance for the food to settle a bit. So what might be in short walking distance to our current location and fill the remainder or our immediate requirements?
How about this
Well yes, jumping in the fountain would have fit the bill, but I can see a Cast Member or three having minor conniption fits over it. So rather instead, we just rolled on into the Muppetvision 3D theater just off to the right there.
This is another attraction that I make a point to catch whenever were in the Studios. If youre into the details, this is the pace for you. There are so many site gages and outright puns (visual and printed) that its nearly impossible to take them all in during a single visit.
I mean, where else are you going to find a net full of jello displayed quite so prominently?
Good thing they leave a key under the mat at the ticket booth so that you can get back in later on (really check it out for yourself next time youre there). For me at least the preshow is nearly as entertaining as the main attraction. Similar to the way that the old Cranium Command preshow prompted even more laughs then the theater show I miss that one. While this opening films intent is to do no more than kill time and explain the radicle concept of 3D glasses
it reminds me more of the original Muppet Show in all its foolish and chaotic glory.
What foolishness would you like to see?
Here, you can see the foolishness for yourself if youd like
I rather enjoy getting into the preshow theater early enough to see the bulk of it, but then again, Im into low humor. Then theres the fact that the actual Muppet Show on which the whole thing is inspired is a product of my youth so it makes sense that Id be drawn to it so. I understand that theyve recently updated the video to have Constantine from the new film take over the preshow. Ill have to wait and see if thats an improvement or intrusion, but Im hopeful.
Now the .
A public Service Announcement:
Unlike the Indiana Jones Epic Stunt Show Spectacular
The Muppet Vision Theater has a sum total of absolutely
Z E R O
bad seats.
Really! I aint kiddin here,
Hand on a stack of bibles; cross your heart; pinky swear; insert you favorite superstition about fibs here
I mean it Really! (and same goes for the Philharmagic for that matter)
You know what this means?
It means you can actually do just what the harried cast members are imploring and move your lazy self-centered carcass all the way down to the end of the aisle. It wont detract one single iota from your viewing experience.
Not to mention that Sam Eagle himself just got done explaining to you that stopping will be distinctly unpatriotic. So Im imploring you: just take a radicle leap of faith here, even if its only this one time Please! Just move the heck on down and let the rest of us into the bloody dang theater. Then after the show you can go right back to your normal mode of supreme arrogance, OK?
Sheese!
Unlike the Indiana Jones Epic Stunt Show Spectacular
The Muppet Vision Theater has a sum total of absolutely
Z E R O
bad seats.
Really! I aint kiddin here,
Hand on a stack of bibles; cross your heart; pinky swear; insert you favorite superstition about fibs here
I mean it Really! (and same goes for the Philharmagic for that matter)
You know what this means?
It means you can actually do just what the harried cast members are imploring and move your lazy self-centered carcass all the way down to the end of the aisle. It wont detract one single iota from your viewing experience.
Not to mention that Sam Eagle himself just got done explaining to you that stopping will be distinctly unpatriotic. So Im imploring you: just take a radicle leap of faith here, even if its only this one time Please! Just move the heck on down and let the rest of us into the bloody dang theater. Then after the show you can go right back to your normal mode of supreme arrogance, OK?
Sheese!
Now that were all in our seats, we can finally enjoy the show. We can revel in the mayhem that is a tour of Muppet Labs, snicker subversively during Miss Piggies thoroughly ruined solo spots, grin knowingly during the runaway Bean and Sweetums incursion and of course bask in the glory and reverence of Sams spectacular two hour Salute to all Countries, but Mostly America.
Youve got two minutes!
Laughs were had right up until the point where the Chiefs temper led him to obliterate the grand auditorium for the umph-teenth time. Then we were dropping the 3D glasses into their proper receptacles and being ushered back out into the roasting oven that was a typical June afternoon in Orlando. This time though there was something that quickly took our mind off the ambient temperatures.
Our next Fast Pass window was finally open.
It was time to take a ride; the grandest ride in the Studio.
Excuse me folks, Ive got a limo to catch and you better make that a Supper-Stretch
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BUHBYE
For the third time today we were hoofin it back down Sunset Boulevard. But we wont be on our feet all that much longer. The last fast pass of the day would be taking us here
The RocknRoller Coaster may not be the biggest, badest coaster on the planet, but it is one of the most fun all around experiences. Were not even in the building yet and the thing is already a blast. I love the giant icon of a Statocaster morphing into a roadway that the Imagineers put together for this attraction. An absolutely brilliant representation of both the coaster and rocknroll in general. Being particularly fond of Stats myself, I may be a bit biased but it seems the perfect choice. Oddly, none of the folks in Aerosmith are much known for wielding Fender axes, but I believe we can overlook that little detail.
I dont remember what the stand-by time was when we arrived, but I do remember walking round and past a whole pile of them tourists in matching tee-shirts on my way in to see the good folks at G-Force Records
Of course you dont spend much time in the studio.
Nope, the bulk of it is spent in the natural habitat of spies the world over: a back ally
Now its generally not in the best interest of any operative to willingly climb into a strange vehicle that happens to be miraculously waiting in said ally. Not unless youre dead certain who called for the ride, and just exactly where its going. This time though, we knew that wed still be around when the car pulled into its ultimate destination. A bit roughed up possibly, but still among the living.
Ahhhh theres one of our chariots now
Classic good looks, high capacity, zero to sixty in 2.8 seconds
4.5 Gs pulled at the entry into the first inversion (more than astronauts generally pulled on a space shuttle launch by the way)
Whats not to like!
These are just about the coolest ride trains around (from a thematic stand point). I recently learned an interesting tidbit related to them as well. The various Aerosmith tunes you hear during the ride arent random but are specific to which of the five active trains you are loaded into. The sound system is built into the front of the car. Its the power plant roaring under the hood, so to speak. As of now at least, you can tell them apart by the various vanity tags on the back bumpers like so:
1QKLIMO: "Nine Lives"
UGOBABE: "Love in an Elevator" & "Walk This Way"
BUHBYE: "Young Lust", "F.I.N.E.*" & "Love in an Elevator"
H8TRFFC: "Back in the Saddle" & "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)"
2FAST4U: "Sweet Emotion"(live)
This time around our little band of rockers caught a ride in traffic hatter up there. Like the rest of those 59 Caddies it most certainly got us to the show on time. I need to go back in September now that Im no longer tied down by the school calendar and just ride this one all day long.
Maybe I can catch all five limos.
Sound like a good plan to any of yall?
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Chill!
Having used up our current Fast Pass, there was at least the option of grabbing another. Actually, the option was available to us as we began the process of crossing from The Streets of America over toward Sunset Blvd. As it happens, the only other attraction at HS that is truly worth acquiring a pass for just happens to be positioned smack in between those two spots: Toy Story Midway Mania. As it also happens, passes for that one tend to dry up before noon in the summer time. As it also happens, our window for acquiring such passes did not open up until well after the last one was scarfed up.
Not Good
Remember also that I said earlier there were a large number of them there matching tee-shirt wearing, tour-guide with a flag pole following gaggles of young folks that tend to be oblivious to the existence of anyone beyond themselves? Well by then wed identified over a dozen such individual groups of this strip within the park, and just take a stab as to where the bulk of them happened to be congregating right about now
(It appears we were being paid back for passing by the other bunch of them back over at the RnRRC)
More not good
I dont believe the wait time display for the TSMM stand-by queue had quite enough digits to accurately convey how long wed be standing on line.
But let me say this about that
We have been on it before and it is a lot of fun, but
(and let me get my shield out here before yall start heaving stones and half eaten mickey-bars at me),
But it just aint worth that kind of a wait.
To us It just aint.
Ok, ok, yall settle down and chill out a bit here. I will say that the various arcade games are certainly entertaining enough, but to me the best part of that ride when the car zips from one spot to the next. What can I say, I likes me some quick motion. And there are a number of other attractions where your vehicle may well zip from one place to another. The boys didnt want to be doing that much standing either but their reasoning was different. Theyve been playing video games sense before being potty trained and these arent all that new, different, or exciting to them. Are the very cool? Yes, but are they a necessary experience? Nope, not as far as they were concerned.
That made the next decision easier for us.
Time to call it a day for Hollywood Studios.
Time to get out of the heat for a bit, chill out and make definitive plans for how wed be spending the evening. We did stop just long enough to buy some assorted Slushies to aid in the chilling process. And then it was back toward the main entrance
onto the tram, and then back out to the car. About a minute or two of idling with the A/C on full blast drove the Florida head out of the cabin and we then deftly made our getaway back to the Bayou
Bus, schmus, Ive decided I rather like leaving the driving to me.
Anyway, we fell into our little partition of building 36 and commenced the chillin in earnest. Once again the boys shot out for the pool and once again mom and dad redoubled our efforts to consume all the rum. Shortly after we declared ourselves to be thoroughly chilled, the entirety of Port Orleans decided that it desperately needed to chill as well and the great torrential down poor of the day descended upon the entire Buena Vista area
As you might imagine it wasnt long after the rain started that the youngens arrived back at the room. As you might also imagine, it wasnt all that long after they arrived that said rain finished up and moved on. The boys soulda just waited it out. Heck, they were already wet anyway. But then again, it was approaching dinner time by now, and this way I didnt have to hike up there to fetch em. So really it was for the best. Once everyone got dried, dressed and organized we climbed back into the car and headed out to tackle the second half of the day. A quick stop at the dining hall for a bit of supper and we were back out in The World.
Next up: Munchies around the World
afwdwfan
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So you paid extra for what? The ability to park on a lower floor in the garage? We drove into the garage, parked, walked maybe 100 yards to an escalator and then rode moving walkways to City Walk.
Just brutal after all the walking we did in the park.
The tour is just a sad, sad reminder of what used to be something awesome.
It is sad, indeed. If ambient temperature is your reasoning, you could at least choose something with air conditioning.
Yep... when the highlight is seeing the backside of another attraction that is on equally slippery footing for it's fight to stay in the parks, you know you're in trouble.
You get even hotter from the fire... but you might get splashed by the water. It is like hot day roulette.
You know, none of the QS places there are unusual or flashy, per se, but I've always had decent meals there and from Backlot Express and the market places over on Sunset Blvd. They could do better with restaurant theming, but it isn't bad. It is definitely a must-do!
I completely agree. We walked in last time and they were opening the doors to go into the show. We basically skipped the pre-show. I'll admit, I was pretty disappointed.
hmmmmmmm.... interesting. I look forward to seeing that.
Hmmm... well, I learned something new today.
Apparently I always ride in UGOBABE, H8TRFFC and 2FAST4U.
And apparently, the last 2 trips, I got H8TRFFC every time I rode. I thought they'd changed it and were just playing "Back in the Saddle" all the time.
So you just get another one for RNRCC. It is a pretty simple decision.
Nothing is. I mean it is a great ride, but Disney has a lot of great rides. Why would I want to tie up 2 or 3 hours of my day on one of them when I could use those 2 or 3 hours to do 2 - 4 other ones?
Yep... typical Florida summer afternoon!
GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes
If it’s still here tomorrow… I may ignore it again
- Joined
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So you paid extra for what? The ability to park on a lower floor in the garage? We drove into the garage, parked, walked maybe 100 yards to an escalator and then rode moving walkways to City Walk.
Just brutal after all the walking we did in the park.
Captain_Oblivious
DIS Dad #257, Galactic Salad Dodger
- Joined
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Whew. I thought you were going to say Great Movie Ride for a second there.
As always, my reaction will depend on what they replace these things with.
And it's still on my bucket list.
Truth.
Somebody's raising them right.
Unlike the backlot tour, the Muppets 3D still retains its awesomeness.
It truly is great.
Haven't seen the new movie yet, so I hope they didn't ruin a good thing here.
Feeling a little testy today? Don't forget the Crop Dusting option.
I still quote that all the time.
(I still have not ridden this. I will go hang my head in shame.)
I long for the days when we could go down there in September, enjoy free dining, and avoid crowds. Glorious.
No ride is worth that much of a wait. I also hate the pull-string thingys on the guns. But it's still fun.
GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes
If it’s still here tomorrow… I may ignore it again
- Joined
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Really
You just about convinced me to stop writing entirely after the last update and now youre complaining that Im not writing?
Oddly, Ive already decided against that exact course of action and was planning to put the next little bit up this afternoon. Still do, Im just working on the replies before finishing up. So youll have something else to savage is a bit.
But I must say your timing is impeccable.
GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes
If it’s still here tomorrow… I may ignore it again
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Yep. The initial idea of HS being a working studio just never really had a chance. I think its best that theyve given up on the notion and moved toward a film themed park instead. But now its time to do a bit of major renovation out in that back corner.
That assessment
I wont be arguing with.
I think theyve been better than my memories of earlier in the parks history afford me. We have usually spent only part of a day here and moved on, but Ill agree that the level of quality for the counter service at least has improved over time. They still need to do some work on the TS side of the coin though.
Ive had that happen once or twice. It's easily one of the few times when missing the preshow is considered a loss.
Agreed. But I suspect it may not be there by the time I get back into the parks.
It will likely be next summer at the earliest and possibly longer then that.
I may research it farther to confirm my findings, but thats what I was able to dig up when I was looking into it for the last chapter. The sound system is built into the front of each train, so there is no reason they cant vary from one to the next. I had a picture of one of the cars with the nose taken apart showing the electronics, but I didnt use it in the chapter and didnt think to keep it on hand either. May have to hunt that back down sometime.
So you just get another one for RNRCC. It is a pretty simple decision.
Thats an option.
Not a bad one actually.
Nothing is. I mean it is a great ride, but Disney has a lot of great rides. Why would I want to tie up 2 or 3 hours of my day on one of them when I could use those 2 or 3 hours to do 2 - 4 other ones?
Yep... typical Florida summer afternoon!
Thats how it was when I lived there, thats how it is now, thats how it will be long after Im gone.
Assuming its still above sea level.
GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes
If it’s still here tomorrow… I may ignore it again
- Joined
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I suspect that the GMR will still be there a while (for good or ill). The tour though. Im not so sure of that one.
As always, my reaction will depend on what they replace these things with.
Theres much I wouldnt mind seeing happen, but no real good credible rumors floating around right now. Unless youve heard a few.
And it's still on my bucket list.
The lines for it are so short now that you might be able to pull it off.
We were second in line and would have gotten roped into it had the first group not agreed.
Somebody's raising them right.
Not eating your vegetable is easy to teach. It just happens naturally.
Yes yes it does.
A new version of the 3D film might be good, but a piece of me hopes they leave that one alone.
We have the whole series on DVD.
It travels with us on long car trips
Me either, and I worry the same worry.
Havent even had the strength to hunt it down on YouTube yet.
That just happens to be one of my biggest peeves. Im not particularly good at selfish and really dont much like arguing. Truthfully I find myself getting stepped on by other folks a great deal due to this. It amazes me that large sectors of the populous are unable to be human enough to even share a theater without first demanding that they are better than everyone else.
I still quote that all the time.
Its flat out funny, and at times a painfully true picture of our national psyche.
Quality writing holds up.
One of the days.
If you can do Everest You can do RnRRC
I long for the days when we could go down there in September, enjoy free dining, and avoid crowds. Glorious.
Me too.
Ive hit the point of ability, but it seems to have coincided with a point of financial challenge. Figures
Obviously, Ill be agreeing.
Im not a fan of the pull strings either actually. It must be the limitation of the controller apparatus that results in the low scores on that ride. Couldnt be that my low scores are really more a function on spending little to no time on video games
GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes
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