Smoke odor ?

[vicki_c]

LMCmom - I don't think that comment was specifically directed at you -- but more about the many threads on the DIS that pertain to smoking. Like the thing she quoted about the Lysol. I know you started the thread, but I don't think everything you're quoting there was really directed at you.

Don't take everything quite so personally. Relax.

 

[bavaria]

Well, if they are in an area which is not restricted, I don't think that they need to be the ones to move. If you have a problem, then really you should be removing yourself (again, assuming that the person is smoking in a permitted area)

The reality is that in life we cannot avoid everything that we don't wish to experience, whether it be smokers, or swimsuits/clothing we don't like, or anything else which is not against the law.

For example, we had a poster here who was upset about what someone else was watching on an airplane. Unless it was porn, there really aren't restrictions against watching anything. I am a pacifist, and I cannot stomach much of what is shown on television or in the movies. But I fully support other peoples' rights to watch what they like, so long as it isn't prohibited material.

We thankfully still have freedom of speech and freedom of action. If we don't like what someone is doing, or saying, or wearing, so long as it isn't against the law then it really isn't our place to tell them to stop, is it?

 

[vicki_c]

Ok an honest question here..

I am guilty of giving the evil eye to smokers, making fake coughing noises, and muttering 'whew, that stinks' in that passive aggressive way

From this thread I now understand that it is probably not the best way to go about it. How then do I say something to the smoker? I am very Southern, too polite, and do not want to cause a scene. But I also absolutely can not take the smoke smell.

We were at a children's playground once when this mom lit up right in the middle of the playgroup. I was astounded that she would smoke right in the middle of the little kids! I was very nice about it but did ask her to move way away from us and the kids.
How would I do that when someone is on a veranda? or sits down and starts smoking next to us at the Pool?

If they're smoking in a smoking area, you generally don't. YOU move.

 

[justmestace]

Ok an honest question here..

I am guilty of giving the evil eye to smokers, making fake coughing noises, and muttering 'whew, that stinks' in that passive aggressive way

From this thread I now understand that it is probably not the best way to go about it. How then do I say something to the smoker? I am very Southern, too polite, and do not want to cause a scene. But I also absolutely can not take the smoke smell.

We were at a children's playground once when this mom lit up right in the middle of the playgroup. I was astounded that she would smoke right in the middle of the little kids! I was very nice about it but did ask her to move way away from us and the kids.
How would I do that when someone is on a veranda? or sits down and starts smoking next to us at the Pool?

If I were smoking in a designated area....and please believe me when I say that I would NEVER smoke near the Goofy pool, even if it is allowed. Besides, there aren't any ashtrays there at all....I have to keep walking all the way to the last 3 tables past the adult pool before finding an ashtray and that's fine with me. Anyway....if they're on an open deck in a designated area, you really can't say anything. All you can do is move.
Now...on your verandah....you can do as you did with the lady in the park. You can try to speak to the other person, and from what I've read on this thread, and others about smoking, 99.9% of us will respect your space....try to work it out so that we aren't out there when you are.

But honestly, like I'd said earlier, I know I and probably every other smoker, got a verandah for that reason. I think someone else said their schedule (basically) and it's pretty much the same as mine. One or two in the morning with coffee, one before dinner and one or two before bed.
If someone wanted me to not be out there at all in the mornings, for example, I wouldn't agree to that.
I think it will work out for you. Being polite goes a very long way.

 

[CoreyLe]

Well, if they are in an area which is not restricted, I don't think that they need to be the ones to move.

Is smoking allowed on the Wonder next to the pool? not the adult pool but the pools where the kids swim?
If I am sitting there, and have been sitting there for a while, and then a smoker comes and sits next to me I should be the one to move? I am sorry but I dont agree with that. I should not have to move if I was there first. Why would it be wrong for me to ask if they could smoke somewhere else.
Now if he was there first and was smoking then I would gladly move or not sit there in the first place.

I dont know how to double quote.. someone said "If they're smoking in a smoking area, you generally don't. YOU move."
Well of course! I would never go into a smoking area and expect anyone to move. Just like the rooms or areas in some airports, they are made for smoking and I would not sit outside of them or would do so fully knowing that I will smell the smoke.

And again what about the verandah? Sure my neighbor is allowed to smoke out there. But I am also allowed to be out there too. Someone said that we all should be considerate of each other so that is my question.. if the verandah neighbor is chain smoking out there and we are not able to go out shouldnt I be able to ask politely for some smoke free time?

 

[justmestace]

LMCmom - I don't think that comment was specifically directed at you -- but more about the many threads on the DIS that pertain to smoking. Like the thing she quoted about the Lysol. I know you started the thread, but I don't think everything you're quoting there was really directed at you.

Don't take everything quite so personally. Relax.

Thanks...and you're right. I didn't refer to anyone specifically. I was talking 1) About ALL of the threads about smoking and 2) More specifically about the person who threatened to spray the Lysol.

 

[CoreyLe]

If I were smoking in a designated area....and please believe me when I say that I would NEVER smoke near the Goofy pool, even if it is allowed. Besides, there aren't any ashtrays there at all....I have to keep walking all the way to the last 3 tables past the adult pool before finding an ashtray and that's fine with me. Anyway....if they're on an open deck in a designated area, you really can't say anything. All you can do is move.
Now...on your verandah....you can do as you did with the lady in the park. You can try to speak to the other person, and from what I've read on this thread, and others about smoking, 99.9% of us will respect your space....try to work it out so that we aren't out there when you are.

But honestly, like I'd said earlier, I know I and probably every other smoker, got a verandah for that reason. I think someone else said their schedule (basically) and it's pretty much the same as mine. One or two in the morning with coffee, one before dinner and one or two before bed.
If someone wanted me to not be out there at all in the mornings, for example, I wouldn't agree to that.
I think it will work out for you. Being polite goes a very long way.

You replied the same time as my last reply..

Thank you for a great attitude about it, for answering my questions politely, and for not smoking near the Goofy pool.

I appreciate it.

 

[justmestace]

Well, if they are in an area which is not restricted, I don't think that they need to be the ones to move.

Is smoking allowed on the Wonder next to the pool? not the adult pool but the pools where the kids swim?
If I am sitting there, and have been sitting there for a while, and then a smoker comes and sits next to me I should be the one to move? I am sorry but I dont agree with that. I should not have to move if I was there first. Why would it be wrong for me to ask if they could smoke somewhere else.
Now if he was there first and was smoking then I would gladly move or not sit there in the first place.

I dont know how to double quote.. someone said "If they're smoking in a smoking area, you generally don't. YOU move."
Well of course! I would never go into a smoking area and expect anyone to move. Just like the rooms or areas in some airports, they are made for smoking and I would not sit outside of them or would do so fully knowing that I will smell the smoke.

And again what about the verandah? Sure my neighbor is allowed to smoke out there. But I am also allowed to be out there too. Someone said that we all should be considerate of each other so that is my question.. if the verandah neighbor is chain smoking out there and we are not able to go out shouldnt I be able to ask politely for some smoke free time?

You're from Omaha! I was born and raised there....Omaha Burke High.....

Anyway....it was me who said, yes...please politely speak to that smoking neighbor.
If it is REALLY bad....chainsmoking all day....but keep in mind, there's a lot to do onboard. I'm too busy having fun to just sit on the balcony and smoke all day......anyway, if it's really bad, go to Guest Services and see if they can help. I don't know if they can, or what they can do....but they might be able to help.

 

[bavaria]

And again what about the verandah? Sure my neighbor is allowed to smoke out there. But I am also allowed to be out there too. Someone said that we all should be considerate of each other so that is my question.. if the verandah neighbor is chain smoking out there and we are not able to go out shouldnt I be able to ask politely for some smoke free time?

I think that most people don't smoke continually for extended minutes/hours at a time. You may have two smokers at once, but how many realistically are going to be on a verandah together?

Even the most heavy smokers in my life don't smoke one after the other after the other - in America cigarettes are now very costly so most smokers try and spin out their cigarettes.

If it is one an hour, or two people smoking two an hour, I personally think that is pretty acceptable. If they take up more than 30 minutes of every hour smoking, then maybe that is more than their 'fair share'. But I do think that chances of that are very low.

 

[bavaria]

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You're from Omaha! I was born and raised there....Omaha Burke High.....

Methinks that the quoting is getting confused! Not from Omaha! Been there, but not from there!

I am familiar with Runzas if you need proof!

 

[CoreyLe]

justmestace - I am in Omaha! And holy cow I am FREEZING!!! It is currently 2 degrees here. My husband is in the Navy and stationed at STRATCOM so we are not here by choice. But I do like it here and will miss it when we leave.

 

[justmestace]

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Methinks that the quoting is getting confused! Not from Omaha! Been there, but not from there!

I am familiar with Runzas if you need proof!

I'm sorry....you're right....and I bet I made the mistake and quoted the wrong person. I knew I was supposed to be talking to CoryLe. Sorry! I feel so stupid!!!

I like Runza's hamburgers, but can honestly say I've never had a real Runza.

 

[bavaria]

I'm a veggie no Runza here either! I just always associate it with Omaha now.

No need to apologise; I was just confused how I was thought to be from Omaha. (I have signatures and avatars turned off so I don't see what most other readers see in regards to location etc)

 

[justmestace]

justmestace - I am in Omaha! And holy cow I am FREEZING!!! It is currently 2 degrees here. My husband is in the Navy and stationed at STRATCOM so we are not here by choice. But I do like it here and will miss it when we leave.

I knew it was you, I just messed up. Must be bedtime!! Sorry.

I'm flying up there on March 5th...staying til the 19th. I wouldn't, but my whole family is still there, including my oldest daughter and my very first grandbaby. I haven't seen him in 5 months, and I can't stand it any more!! I have to go up and hold him and kiss him or I'll go crazy.

And not to worry, anyone.....I NEVER smoke in the house (even my own...hubby won't allow it) and NEVER anywhere near the baby...even in the outdoors. I'm very well trained.

 

[CoreyLe]

I'm sorry....you're right....and I bet I made the mistake and quoted the wrong person. I knew I was supposed to be talking to CoryLe. Sorry! I feel so stupid!!!

I like Runza's hamburgers, but can honestly say I've never had a real Runza.

It's ok, I saw it and replied! I do think the quotes were screwy because it had my name and bavarias in it.

I think I am the only one in Omaha that does not like Runza.

 

[justmestace]

It's ok, I saw it and replied! I do think the quotes were screwy because it had my name and bavarias in it.

I think I am the only one in Omaha that does not like Runza.

You're right...it has your words, and their name. WHEW! I'm not as crazy as I thought I was.

Just the word "Runza" is not very appealing at all. Ick. But really, the burgers aren't bad.
I miss Bronco's fries.

 

[tinker1bell]

Starting back in 2001, I started getting bad migraines from odors. Cleaning materials, strong perfumes, smoke. It drove me crazy because I thought something was very wrong. I was watching Oprah and they talked about this product---

http://www.kvsupply.com/browse/Home...-oz/D/30100/P/1:1:100:60000:610:62000/I/50097

If I know I am going to encounter a specific odor, I rub it right under my nose and sometimes I can stop the migraine before it gets really intense.

 

[justmestace]

Starting back in 2001, I started getting bad migraines from odors. Cleaning materials, strong perfumes, smoke. It drove me crazy because I thought something was very wrong. I was watching Oprah and they talked about this product---

http://www.kvsupply.com/browse/Home...-oz/D/30100/P/1:1:100:60000:610:62000/I/50097

If I know I am going to encounter a specific odor, I rub it right under my nose and sometimes I can stop the migraine before it gets really intense.

It really does work??!! My mom gets migraines but hasn't taken anything other than Excedrin (which doesn't help much, if any) for years. She basically gave up. I might buy this for her. Thanks.

 

[tinker1bell]

It really does work??!! My mom gets migraines but hasn't taken anything other than Excedrin (which doesn't help much, if any) for years. She basically gave up. I might buy this for her. Thanks.

Here are the ingredients Grapeseed Oil, Lavender, Peppermint. Some people cannot tolerate one or more of those scents. My BFF has sarcoddosis which affects her lungs so breathing for her sometimes if just plain hard. You get odors like strong perfume, smoke, cleaning materials then she really has a hard time. That product does not help her at all.

It won't work all of the time, but if I know I could encounter a particular odor, I will use it ahead of time. At least in some instances, it lessens the pain.

It is no fun getting migraines. I did also find out that Equal can possibly cause migraines, so I do not use that anymore.

 

[mmouse37]

Since there have been numerous reports to the mods on this thread it is now being closed. The guidelines against personal attacks and playing nice have already been posted to this thread but things are still being said so it now time to shut it down.

MJ