**ROFR Thread 2014 JAN-JUNE** UPDATE to thread on PG 71!!

[mattnjim]

mattnjim---$115-$2,875-25-BCV-Dec-25/'13, 25/'14, 25/'15-sent 3/17, passed 4/17

Sorry, i forgot to post earlier. Small little contract to add a good friend to the DVC family. Matched my other points with Dec UY so i didn't care about the higher price per point.

 

[judydvc]

Actually, I am the seller. I bought my contract directly from Disney but I'm happy that someone gets to buy it from me. I just think it will give some family happy memories.

 

[chitwndan]

Thanks "Wildforgoofey"!

to the DIS and the ROFR thread.

You did get a great price… so good that I give this a 20% chance of passing. I haven't seen a BLT go for that low in the year I've been watching prices. Your contract is stripped but not stripped to the point that it isn't attractive to DVC. I'll be hoping with you… I hope this passes.

EDIT::: There were 2 that passed in the second half of last year that were around your price- $80 & $84. The average price for BLT is around $92-94

So after your edit, you still think I have a 20% chance or was that pre-edit. It appears 0 BLT contracts were ROFR'd from July though Dec 2013 and only 2 have been from 1/2014 to present. (knock on wood.) It seems that the 100 point contracts are most desirable to Disney, but that could be a false pattern.

Anyway this will be the longest 30 days ever, just wondering what folks thought my chances were. We're so excited and so nervous, already planning our next trip, despite knowing we shouldn't.

Thanks,
Dan

 

[wildforgoofy]

I think GOOFY D summed it up when he lost on a good deal.

Lower offers have gone through. I knew at that price there was a risk of ROFR, but I am not going to give a seller more money than they are willing to sell for just because of the fear of ROFR.

If the seller accepts the offering price then go for. If you don't try to pass ROFR someone else would, so why not be you. Just think of it this way if you do pass you'll be doing the biggest happy dance of us all!

 

[suemom2kay]

Well duh! It behooves Disney to keep resale prices up somewhat if they are going to ask $150+ per point. In addition, they can buy up that contract at $70 a point and flip it around for $110 a point if they have demand for those resorts, so it makes double sense for them to use ROFR to keep prices up.

On the bright side. It keeps value to your points. I've bought 2 Wyndham contracts. I paid $0.00 per point. In the first contract, I paid only closing/transfer. In the second contract, I paid nothing for the points and the seller paid the closing/transfer. At least, Disney makes an effort to keep value to their points. The other timeshare companies don't care if they lose value. So many upside down and they can't get out because they can't even get a reasonable portion of their buying price. God help them if they financed.

 

[suemom2kay]

Congratulations! Welcome Home!!!!

Thanks! We're pretty excited!

 

[shenaniganzz]

We passed ROFR!!

shenaniganzz---$55-$25,740-468-OKW-Sep-86/'14, 468/'15, 468/'16, 250/'15-sent 4/12, passed 5/16

 

[that's nice]

mattnjim---$115-$2,875-25-BCV-Dec-25/'13, 25/'14, 25/'15-sent 3/17, passed 4/17

Sorry, i forgot to post earlier. Small little contract to add a good friend to the DVC family. Matched my other points with Dec UY so i didn't care about the higher price per point.

Welcome Home! Still saved a few $ from buying direct.

Actually, I am the seller. I bought my contract directly from Disney but I'm happy that someone gets to buy it from me. I just think it will give some family happy memories.

What's the opposite of 'welcome home' them?

Congrats on your sale.

We passed ROFR!!

shenaniganzz---$55-$25,740-468-OKW-Sep-86/'14, 468/'15, 468/'16, 250/'15-sent 4/12, passed 5/16

Can you repost your point situation… then I'll add ya! Thanks.

 

[that's nice]

So after your edit, you still think I have a 20% chance or was that pre-edit. It appears 0 BLT contracts were ROFR'd from July though Dec 2013 and only 2 have been from 1/2014 to present. (knock on wood.) It seems that the 100 point contracts are most desirable to Disney, but that could be a false pattern.

Anyway this will be the longest 30 days ever, just wondering what folks thought my chances were. We're so excited and so nervous, already planning our next trip, despite knowing we shouldn't.

Thanks,
Dan

Here are the actual BLT resales in the month of March and a few other charts (credit to Don Munsil for compiling the lists and chart)

BLT:

[Color="Red"]BLT Sales and ROFRs Mar 2014[/COLOR]

[Color="Green"][B]Sales
[U]Waiver  Rec'd   Pts   UY   PPP   .[/B][/U][/COLOR]
Apr 09  Mar 12  150   Feb  $ 89.00
Oct 15  Mar 24  100   Feb  $100.00
Oct 21  Mar 24  100   Feb  $ 98.00
Dec 27  Mar 25  160   Apr  $ 95.00
Jan 20  Mar 12  200   Apr  $125.00
Feb 03  Mar 12  200   Feb  $ 88.00
Feb 11  Mar 04  160   Aug  $106.00
Feb 11  Mar 07  180   Mar  $100.00
Feb 11  Mar 13  100   Feb  $103.00
Feb 11  Mar 17  250   Mar  $100.00
Feb 11  Mar 20  50    Dec  $112.00
Feb 11  Mar 25  160   Feb  $ 90.00
Feb 21  Mar 05  160   Mar  $ 97.50
Feb 21  Mar 07  250   Feb  $ 90.00
Feb 21  Mar 10  50    Dec  $108.00
Feb 23  Mar 04  50    Sep  $110.00
Feb 23  Mar 07  200   Feb  $ 95.00
Feb 23  Mar 12  100   Feb  $ 98.00
Feb 23  Mar 14  160   Feb  $ 92.50
Feb 23  Mar 17  125   Feb  $ 91.00
Feb 23  Mar 18  160   Feb  $ 92.50
Feb 23  Mar 19  50    Aug  $ 99.00
Feb 23  Mar 25  250   Feb  $ 89.00
Feb 27  Mar 14  25    Feb  $116.00
Feb 27  Mar 17  100   Mar  $100.00
Feb 27  Mar 18  300   Feb  $ 99.00
Feb 27  Mar 18  200   Mar  $ 97.00
Feb 27  Mar 24  210   Feb  $100.00
Feb 27  Mar 24  150   Dec  $ 93.00
Feb 27  Mar 24  160   Feb  $ 96.00
Feb 27  Mar 25  100   Dec  $101.00
Feb 27  Mar 31  160   Feb  $105.00
Feb 28  Mar 19  250   Feb  $ 90.00
Feb 28  Mar 25  400   Feb  $ 97.00
Feb 28  Mar 25  180   Feb  $100.00
Feb 28  Mar 26  200   Feb  $ 90.00
Mar 04  Mar 10  250   Dec  $ 88.00
Mar 04  Mar 25  250   Dec  $102.00
Mar 04  Mar 28  50    Dec  $ 92.00
Mar 05  Mar 25  125   Aug  $100.00
Mar 05  Mar 28  100   Aug  $101.00
[U]Mar 25  Mar 26  100   Feb  $ 98.00[/U]
[Color="Green"]                   Median: $ 98.00
          10th Percentile: $ 90.00
          90th Percentile: $107.80[/COLOR]


[Color="Green"][B]ROFR Exercises
[U]Deed    Rec'd   Pts   UY   PPP   .[/B][/U][/COLOR]
[U]Feb 22  Mar 28  215   Feb  $100.00[/U]
[Color="Green"]                      Max: $100.00[/color]

The last 8 months….

BLT                                                                
           Aug     Sep     Oct     Nov     Dec     Jan     Feb     Mar
Med Sale   $98.00  $97.50  $100.00 $99.00  $98.00  $99.00  $98.00  $98.00 
Med ROFR   $85.00  $90.00  $0.00   $0.00   $0.00   $0.00   $0.00   $100.00 
# Sales    38      43      36      31      40      31      32      42
# ROFRs    1       8       0       0       0       0       0       1
ROFR Rate  3%      16%     0%      0%      0%      0%      0%      2%

And the average price trend for the last year….






You can see that you are really in uncharted waters here. DVD seems to exercise ROFR not only when the price is low but when there is a need- i.e.. current member adding on. My guess of 20% was before I found 2 contracts that passed near your price. I am hopeful for you but I wouldn't hold my breath. DVD does the unthinkable sometimes so you never know what's gonna happen till it does.

Tim

 

[wildforgoofy]

Wow no June UY contracts on that list. Is a June UY common?

 

[that's nice]

Wow no June UY contracts on that list. Is a June UY common?

No idea why no June contracts were sold/closed in March. June is the second highest UY at BLT. Just a weird coincidence I guess.

 

[judydvc]

The BWV contract Of mine that just passed ROFR is for a June UY. I thought June was a common UY but I didn't see many for sale. Maybe people with June UY don't sell often? Even though I am selling one of my contracts (the BWV) I still have 2 small contracts left for VWL & VGC. So I guess "Welcome Home" still applies to me.

 

[chitwndan]

Thanks for the info. Now I just need to figure out how to make the time pass quickly till we hear something

 

[kimmy85]

kimmy85---$94-$9,802-100-BCV-Aug-0/'14, 100/'15, 100/'16-sent 04/21, PASSED 05/20

We just got the email from TSS. Buyer pays closing costs and no maintenance fees until 2015.

This is our first DVC contract/membership!!

 

[Goosey515]

First time I purchased resale I posted here and had good luck. That was back in 2011 before the resale changes took place. Had an OKW resale taken in ROFR last week. I thought maybe I'd post today after a second contract went to Disney for ROFR...maybe it'll bring luck!!

Goosey515- $69-$14,490-210-OKW- Aug - 6/'12 - 210/'13 - 210/'14 - 210/'15 (buyer paying closing and MF) sent 4/23

Let's hope this one goes through!

Just got word we passed ROFR!

 

[wendybeth75]

Happy to report that we made an offer last week, which buyer was asking for $70 PP at AKV which is good on it's own but my DH had actually offered $65 and the buyer accepted!! I expected a counter since it was a low offer. Such a great price, but I am afraid Disney will take it, I am hoping that since there are no points this year they will leave it be! It went to ROFR today. Buyer pays closing with no MF until 2015. Here is the timeline.
Friday 5/16 made offer-
5/19 seller accepted, contract signed
5/20 contract signed and sent to ROFR

Wendybeth75---$65-$13,689-200-AKV-Apr- 0/'14, 200/'15-sent 5/20

Hoping for some major

 

[jerseymama]

Hate waiting, finally decided to post here. Have been going back and forth on purchasing DVC. Made our first offer last week. Found this board the other day. I don't know if that's good or bad?? I should have stayed off the internet. Apparently nothing is safe from Disney. Very nervous. Really want this for my family.


$67-$14,070-210-OKW June-78/'13, 210/'14, 210/'15-sent 5/15
Buyer paying closing and 2014 MF

 

[indylaw99]

So incredibly sad! We just got notice that Disney took exercised their ROFR. We were about to book Aulani for September and now may not get another contract in time. They passed on others offered for less than ours just in the last week. I just want to cry!!!

$63-$9450-150-OKW March- 150/'14, 150/'15-sent 4/15
Buyer to pay Closing Costs and MF

 

[that's nice]

kimmy85---$94-$9,802-100-BCV-Aug-0/'14, 100/'15, 100/'16-sent 04/21, PASSED 05/20

We just got the email from TSS. Buyer pays closing costs and no maintenance fees until 2015.

This is our first DVC contract/membership!!

Congrats! Welcome Home!!!

Just got word we passed ROFR!

Nice!!! Welcome Home!

Happy to report that we made an offer last week, which buyer was asking for $70 PP at AKV which is good on it's own but my DH had actually offered $65 and the buyer accepted!! I expected a counter since is was low. Such a great price, but I am afraid Disney will take it., I am hoping that since there are no points this year they will leave it be! It went to ROFR today. Here is the timeline. Buyer pays closing with no Maintenance fees until 2015.
Friday 5/16 made offer-
5/19 seller accepted, contract signed
5/20 contract signed and sent to ROFR

Wendybeth75---$65-$13,689-200-AKV-Apr- 0/'14, 200/'15-sent 5/20

Hoping for some major

Good Luck! Added!!!

Hate waiting, finally decided to post here. Have been going back and forth on purchasing DVC. Made our first offer last week. Found this board the other day. I don't know if that's good or bad?? I should have stayed off the internet. Apparently nothing is safe from Disney. Very nervous. Really want this for my family.


$67-$14,070-210-OKW June-78/'13, 210/'14, 210/'15-sent 5/15
Buyer paying closing and 2014 MF

Good Luck! Added!

So incredibly sad! We just got notice that Disney took exercised their ROFR. We were about to book Aulani for September and now may not get another contract in time. They passed on others offered for less than ours just in the last week. I just want to cry!!!

$63-$9450-150-OKW March- 150/'14, 150/'15-sent 4/15
Buyer to pay Closing Costs and MF

So sorry… maybe you can rent points for this years trip then find a stripped contract which could be lower in price. Keep searching… the right one will come along!

 

[DougEMG]

Hate waiting, finally decided to post here. Have been going back and forth on purchasing DVC. Made our first offer last week. Found this board the other day. I don't know if that's good or bad?? I should have stayed off the internet. Apparently nothing is safe from Disney. Very nervous. Really want this for my family.


$67-$14,070-210-OKW June-78/'13, 210/'14, 210/'15-sent 5/15
Buyer paying closing and 2014 MF

Good luck with that. I've got an OKW at ROFR at $65/point. Maybe I'll end up blocking for you.