Rupert B Puppenstein
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- Sep 1, 2009
Wow, there is a reason I guess I stayed away from the Run Like a Girl Events. Definitely keeping those off the list. Disney should really publish the same thing.
I actually have an issue with the "I Did It" shirts... but not as much as the medal. I really feel like they should be only offered only at the family reunion area or in a designated outlet once a runner has completed the race. Then the runner should have to provide their bib number to purchase that or any other finisher gear. OK no stones as I understand that this is not how Disney or RNR handle finisher gear. So since the race offers a limited number of I Did It stuff, then I fully understand the need to lock in the purchase pre-race. If one does not, then the gear is sold out be the time one actually did it.
I would not wear the gear until I actually did it, and if I failed, I would return the shirt to the ESPN store for credit. Simply bad mojo to wear a shirt noting that you did something you really did not do. Likewise, I would not wear a race shirt for which I did not start or volunteer.
cewait said:I actually have an issue with the "I Did It" shirts... but not as much as the medal. I really feel like they should be only offered only at the family reunion area or in a designated outlet once a runner has completed the race. Then the runner should have to provide their bib number to purchase that or any other finisher gear. OK no stones as I understand that this is not how Disney or RNR handle finisher gear. So since the race offers a limited number of I Did It stuff, then I fully understand the need to lock in the purchase pre-race. If one does not, then the gear is sold out be the time one actually did it.
I would not wear the gear until I actually did it, and if I failed, I would return the shirt to the ESPN store for credit. Simply bad mojo to wear a shirt noting that you did something you really did not do. Likewise, I would not wear a race shirt for which I did not start or volunteer.
This will be my first ever marathon...Disney is the ONLY one I want to run...I'm NOT a distance runner and struggle with it tremendously. I've got an injured knee and plantar fasciitis. Both are VERY painful. However, I've invested a lot of time in attempting to train since July. Today, I was only able to do 10 miles...under the required time still but I'm concerned that I might not make it.
I've invested money in the race...money to fly there, money in a hotel reservation, money in food, money in tickets to the park, money in 2 new pairs of shoes, running gear for cold weather, gels, KT tape, and the list will continue to go on.
I've also raised $1000 for JDRF to run with their team. It has not been easy but I'm trying...
To think that all of my effort has some with their noses turned up at me hurts...I will STILL put in 100% and attempt to reach the 26.2 finish line. I'm hoping that the Disney parks will be a welcome change of pace and flatter terrain will help me too.
I'm trying...I'm grateful that Disney sees ME (not one of the people who's planning to get swept just for a medal) as a finisher...whether I cross the line or not but because I've put in WELL OVER 26.2 miles in training to be there.
Truly not sure what to think but saddened that I came across this post and felt I needed to give some perspective from a runner who feels like she is trying to make it.
A BIG thank you to those of you who have said it doesn't affect you whether someone is given the medal or no. It means more to me (and probably many others who aren't reading but not responding) than I can express in words!!
And even if you feel like everyone is really fast there is no shame in being the slowest. I've run 2 10k and a half marathon here at home and we solidly placed in the very back of the pack each time. The half we last did, there were a whole 9 people who finished behind us..
But guess what? We got so much encouragement the whole way from spectators, finishers and the on-course volunteers. And as awesome as all the fast runners are, there is a grit and determination that goes with those of us plugging along at the back - someone has to be last!
That said, we busted out butts to make sure we stayed within the pace. Had we been swept, there's no way I'd have taken a medal. To me, the medal is the symbol of completion. That's why I got a PR at my last half: I really, really wanted the cool medal.
This will be my first ever marathon...Disney is the ONLY one I want to run...I'm NOT a distance runner and struggle with it tremendously. I've got an injured knee and plantar fasciitis. Both are VERY painful. However, I've invested a lot of time in attempting to train since July. Today, I was only able to do 10 miles...under the required time still but I'm concerned that I might not make it.
I've invested money in the race...money to fly there, money in a hotel reservation, money in food, money in tickets to the park, money in 2 new pairs of shoes, running gear for cold weather, gels, KT tape, and the list will continue to go on.
I've also raised $1000 for JDRF to run with their team. It has not been easy but I'm trying...
To think that all of my effort has some with their noses turned up at me hurts...I will STILL put in 100% and attempt to reach the 26.2 finish line. I'm hoping that the Disney parks will be a welcome change of pace and flatter terrain will help me too.
I'm trying...I'm grateful that Disney sees ME (not one of the people who's planning to get swept just for a medal) as a finisher...whether I cross the line or not but because I've put in WELL OVER 26.2 miles in training to be there.
Truly not sure what to think but saddened that I came across this post and felt I needed to give some perspective from a runner who feels like she is trying to make it.
A BIG thank you to those of you who have said it doesn't affect you whether someone is given the medal or no. It means more to me (and probably many others who aren't reading but not responding) than I can express in words!!
To think that all of my effort has some with their noses turned up at me hurts...I will STILL put in 100% and attempt to reach the 26.2 finish line. I'm hoping that the Disney parks will be a welcome change of pace and flatter terrain will help me too.
This will be my first ever marathon...Disney is the ONLY one I want to run...I'm NOT a distance runner and struggle with it tremendously. I've got an injured knee and plantar fasciitis. Both are VERY painful. However, I've invested a lot of time in attempting to train since July. Today, I was only able to do 10 miles...under the required time still but I'm concerned that I might not make it.
I've invested money in the race...money to fly there, money in a hotel reservation, money in food, money in tickets to the park, money in 2 new pairs of shoes, running gear for cold weather, gels, KT tape, and the list will continue to go on.
I've also raised $1000 for JDRF to run with their team. It has not been easy but I'm trying...
To think that all of my effort has some with their noses turned up at me hurts...I will STILL put in 100% and attempt to reach the 26.2 finish line. I'm hoping that the Disney parks will be a welcome change of pace and flatter terrain will help me too.
I'm trying...I'm grateful that Disney sees ME (not one of the people who's planning to get swept just for a medal) as a finisher...whether I cross the line or not but because I've put in WELL OVER 26.2 miles in training to be there.
Truly not sure what to think but saddened that I came across this post and felt I needed to give some perspective from a runner who feels like she is trying to make it.
A BIG thank you to those of you who have said it doesn't affect you whether someone is given the medal or no. It means more to me (and probably many others who aren't reading but not responding) than I can express in words!!
No one is looking down their nose at your time or effort. I applaud anyone how even starts a race. However, no matter how much time, effort, money, and pain you put into a race the only people who actually earn a finisher's medal are those that finish the entire 13.1 or 26.2 mile in the alloted amount of time.
People are free to rationalize it however they want but no matter how hard getting to the start of any race is you don't earn a finisher's medal for it. Ever. Full Stop.
I agree.
Even his "run for time" plan is really a maintenance of current ability plan in my eyes. While he gets thousands of runners across the finish line annually, his plan relies too much on the long run and leaves the mid week run to the runner's imagination. Most simply head out the door to run 45 minutes with no purpose. My experience demonstrates this well. I was a 14-15 mm runner using either the Galloway or USAFit plans. I was destined to remain there until I decided that I needed to learn the reasoning behind training.
Reading this, do not panic and bail to another plan. These plans will get you to the finish line. Just between January and the next race long take it upon yourself to learn about other plans. Take the spring season to do speed work. Learn about fueling and hydration. Work to wean oneself from the run/walk over a 5k race (this will allow you to set your own run/walk ratio in future races that fit your conditioning better) . Work on creating a better injury-proof body through strength training.
It's very doable and possible for anyone on this forum to make huge leaps in performance between the 2013 and 2014 events.
And just to add some fuel to the fire, just saw this:
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201211/nyc-marathon-medals-available-locals
Apparently, you didn't even need to start the NYC Marathon this year! Although, this is a little difference since there were no Finishers, but still...thoughts?
I think they should get the medal based on the way the idiot mayor cancelled the race at the last minute. He knew exactly what he was doing. He got the hotel and restaurant revenue, the expo revenue and then cancelled the race. It should have been done the Tuesday before the marathon, not on Friday. I was all for the marathon being cancelled, but felt bad for the people that flew in on Friday and then found out it was cancelled at the expo.
No one is looking down their nose at your time or effort. I applaud anyone how even starts a race. However, no matter how much time, effort, money, and pain you put into a race the only people who actually earn a finisher's medal are those that finish the entire 13.1 or 26.2 mile in the alloted amount of time.
People are free to rationalize it however they want but no matter how hard getting to the start of any race is you don't earn a finisher's medal for it. Ever. Full Stop.
I love this because it's what I have been doing after a lot of fumbling around, and I'm relieved to hear I'm on the right track. After PRing my second half with 4/1 intervals (2:44), I'm now training for a 5K with speedwork and no intervals; goal is <35m on a hilly course in 2 weeks.
Perhaps this is off topic for this thread, but any more specifics on the advice to "set your own run/walk ratio in future races"? I'm thinking about training to run continuously at the Princess and then do some speedwork for my late May half, but am worried I may find myself slowing down. I'm not expecting to PR the princess, but just can't decide on a strategy WRT intervals or not for the 13.1 distance.
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JCH said:And just to add some fuel to the fire, just saw this:
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201211/nyc-marathon-medals-available-locals
Apparently, you didn't even need to start the NYC Marathon this year! Although, this is a little difference since there were no Finishers, but still...thoughts?
This will be my first ever marathon...Disney is the ONLY one I want to run...I'm NOT a distance runner and struggle with it tremendously. I've got an injured knee and plantar fasciitis. Both are VERY painful. However, I've invested a lot of time in attempting to train since July. Today, I was only able to do 10 miles...under the required time still but I'm concerned that I might not make it.
I've invested money in the race...money to fly there, money in a hotel reservation, money in food, money in tickets to the park, money in 2 new pairs of shoes, running gear for cold weather, gels, KT tape, and the list will continue to go on.
I've also raised $1000 for JDRF to run with their team. It has not been easy but I'm trying...
To think that all of my effort has some with their noses turned up at me hurts...I will STILL put in 100% and attempt to reach the 26.2 finish line. I'm hoping that the Disney parks will be a welcome change of pace and flatter terrain will help me too.
I'm trying...I'm grateful that Disney sees ME (not one of the people who's planning to get swept just for a medal) as a finisher...whether I cross the line or not but because I've put in WELL OVER 26.2 miles in training to be there.
Truly not sure what to think but saddened that I came across this post and felt I needed to give some perspective from a runner who feels like she is trying to make it.
To me, this was not a healthy dose of perspective. This was rationalizing. I don't particularly care if it sounds mean. My nose isn't turned up at you for not being the fastest runner, but it is turned up a little at you for feeling like you're this unique, tortured soul in the marathon training universe.
Guess what: everyone who runs a marathon does everything you just listed (except perhaps the raising money. Super kudos to you for that. I've never raised that much money for anything, and very much respect anyone who does).
If you talked to everyone posting on this thread, I'm sure you'd hear a litany of injuries, and tons of descriptions of running through pain, slogging for 18+ miles through humid July and August days, vast expenditures for travel, entry fees, Gu packets, protein bars, running shoes, orthotics, doctor's office visits, and the like. You'd hear about good running days and bad runnings days; personal records and personal failures. You'd hear a lot of folks (myself included) describing being overweight and still trying to run anyway. I started distance running the first time when I weighed over 300 pounds. I have a permanently weak ankle and a bad knee. I was very slow. The first time I ran 13.1 it took me like 2:45 to do it. But I did it.
I can now run 13.1 in 1:45. I weigh 125 pounds less than I did at my heaviest. I can't tell you how much time and money went into that effort, but trust me, it was a lot. However, I also believe that, if I start a race and don't finish it, I'm not a finisher and I don't deserve to be treated like one. If that philosophy hurts someone's feelings, so be it.
I (and you and everyone else on this thread) have logged hundreds of miles in training. That isn't some sort of substitute for finishing the race. A race on any given day isn't about "the journey" (I still don't fully understand what people mean by that), it's about that race on that day. You go out, you run, and you leave it all on the road. If you finish, awesome. If you don't, that's not an indictment of you or your character. It just means you didn't finish that race on that day. Own it. Use it as bulletin board material for your next race. Just don't use it to make excuses. </Rant>