Question..Too Hard to Explain in the Title

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  1. mbo516

    mbo516 Earning My Ears

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    Okay here's some background lol. I've been on 6 disney cruises now. Number 7 is a 7 day booked for this july. Anyway I turned 18 before my 6th cruise last year. All of my family is over 18 that came, there was no problem with anyone being left out of anything. But anyway heres where my actual question comes in. Now my girlfriend is coming and possibly a younger cousin, they are both teens not over 18 however. I don't know what to do cause I cant leave my girlfriend to do adult stuff. Does anyone have any precedents possibly of them being merciful and letting your younger guests come in with you? Now let me tell you I and my cousin of the same age do not look 18 one bit and we got carded so many times in every adult section, so trust me I know this is a long shot, but I'm just wondering if anyone has any stories of something relating to this. Also, could swear I had an account on this website back in the VMK days, I don't know- couldn't remember the login. Thanks anyone with info, hope I put enough info to explain this lol.
     
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  3. mmouse37

    mmouse37 DCL Diva!!

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    How old are they...they don't have to be over 18, but they do have to be at least 18 and not younger to visit the adult area of the ship.

    If anyone is younger than 18 THEY WILL BE CARDED AND ASKED TO LEAVE whatever adult area they are in. Sorry but that is the way it is. They won't be able to go to the adult pool or the clubs, or the spa or Palo. Your date of birth is encrypted in the card so it is easy for them to tell who belongs and who doesn't.

    If you want to spend time with them you would have to hang out with them in non-adult areas.

    I know it is not what you wanted to hear but that is the way it is, especially if you all look young. DCL has a responsibility to keep the adult areas adult and they will approach anyone who they don't think belongs in an area.

    MJ
     
  4. mbo516

    mbo516 Earning My Ears

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    Mmm yea I figured as much I know the rules I was just wondering if anyone has ever found a way to use a sob story to get them in so I had some hope
     
  5. lbgraves

    lbgraves Little Cinderella's Mommy

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    Sorry, but I for one am grateful that DCL does not bow to "sob stories" so that we can enjoy adult evenings without kids there. You know the situation before cruising so you have plenty of time to make plans for the cruise.
     
  6. mmouse37

    mmouse37 DCL Diva!!

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    They definitely won't listen to a sob story. You have to realize any CM that lets a minor in an adult area is apt to lose his or her job.

    I am sure there are teens who got away with but I am sure they looked a lot older.

    MJ
     
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    I have to agree. If they gave into sob stories (she's my girlfriend, she's my daughter and we're travelling alone together, etc.) then there would probably be a LOT of underage/nonadults in the adult areas. So they need to be strict about this in order to be fair to others.
     
  8. mbo516

    mbo516 Earning My Ears

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    yea its just like i dont know if you just understand where im coming from with this its tough cause my cousin comes with my family and hes 18 so i cant really leave him or her you know. this is the flaw in their separation
     
  9. Khazid

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    I had a feeling MJ would come to the rescue with this one, I swear, if anyone knows anything DCL it's her!

    Back to the OP....I feel your pain, but there are those of us that enjoy the time away from the "kidlets".

    Luckily, there are still a ton of things to do on the ship that you could all enjoy together. Take the advice given to plan ahead and really look at the activities that you can all do that are within the areas you all have access too, but still have the feeling of being in the "adult" world.

    Trust me...10 years from now, you'll be KILLING yourself to be a kid and hang out doing kid things...wait...I'm in my late 30's and still haven't grown out of it. Heck, Disney is still a passion of my DW and I...I'm Peter Pan dangit!!!

    sorry...PTI, just enjoy yourself and don't stress out about the adult areas :):dance3:
     
  10. mbo516

    mbo516 Earning My Ears

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    yea to be honest im deff going to at least give it a shot at sneaking her in lol..were not obnoxious people or anything i mean i think me and my cousin with the college people invading every adult thing were 100x more obnoxious than ill be this year with her there..so hey ill give it a shot..theyre just gonna say no or catch us and thatll be it lol..its just hard cause the only thing that includes us all is family stuff = childish..eh well make our own entertainment i suppose..honestly i could care less about adult stuff i just feel bad dragging my cousin down
     
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    Thanks...that was very kind!!!

    MJ
     
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    Huh?
    is your cousin 18 or "younger" like you mentioned in your first post? If he's 18- why would you have to leave him or her?
    *so confused*
    Okay well if you're going to do whatever you want to do- then I guess there was really no point in asking this question/thread was there?

    From your reaction to the answer you received it sounds like you want to do the adult things- and you want them to also even though they aren't 18/adults. You're not open to doing things THEY can do -along with them- you just want them to be in the adult area even though they aren't adults- and you're going to sneak them in or try to anyway. So why ask? LOL
     
  13. lbgraves

    lbgraves Little Cinderella's Mommy

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    We were all under 18 once and we do understand what you are saying but the rules are there for a reason. DCL does not have a "flaw" in their rules of how they seperate the ages in the adult activities. There is alcohol being served and honestly the comedy acts that perform at night in the clubs are NOT intended for kids. If everyone who has someone 17 with their family/traveling party was able to bring them into the club it just wouldn't be the same. If you look underage expect other guests to point you out to the CMs to card. Your GF and Cousin know what the deal is. If your family wants to ditch them and go to the clubs without them, that is your family's decision, not DCL's. If they don't want to go by the rules and are not going to be happy if they do...then they should not go on the cruise while they are not 18. Is it worth it to you to not be permitted to enter the adult clubs at night along with the underaged kids after being caught "sneaking" them in one night?
     
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    Not a good idea, kiddo. It's not cute and it's not clever. And I have to add, that I, for one, would rat out anyone that I suspected that I saw trying to pull this stuff - and I guarantee you I'm not the only one.

    Those are the rules - deal with them, or perhaps try Carnival or another cruiseline that might fit your needs.

    Being a grown up is about way more than your age. Sorry.
     
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    mbo516 Earning My Ears

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    I know we got pointed out a lot last year because we go out of our way to participate in everything. It actually got annoying because nobody believed we were 18, I doubt a year has changed anything. The thing is I dont care to do adult stuff without her so it doesnt matter if they see it they see it..fun over..but its just like an awkward situation..i know what you mean everyone would do it..but this is the one situation where its especially hard..more so than a younger family member..you just say hey go meet people in the teen section or whatever..im not going to say that to her obviously..im sure well find stuff to do i just dont know exactly after about 10 30 what well do with ourselves i dont want anyone getting bored or upset with me..because shes never been on one she doesnt know shes dragging my cousin down and i didnt want to inform her or she wouldnt want to go
     
  16. mbo516

    mbo516 Earning My Ears

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    relax, but honestly its a cruise, have fun..if someones bothering you and you think theyre underage then say something..but if youre going out of your way then its a bit obsessive. but if you understand what im trying to say here i dont know..im almost 19..i dont consider myself an adult in any way but unfortunately i am and it does create this problem
     
  17. lbgraves

    lbgraves Little Cinderella's Mommy

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    You say she is your girlfriend? How about communicating. She isn't going to be stupid and not be able to figure out what is going on after the first couple nights. Maybe it isn't a good thing that she goes this time. The world won't come to an end because you don't see each other for 7 days. You are not being fair to her and it is costing someone A LOT of money for her fare along with your cousin who you already say you are going "to be bringing him down" if you don't go to the adult clubs at night. You know that there are movies and family activities after dinners are over. If that isn't going to be "fun" for you then you owe it to her to tell her the truth.
     
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    mbo516 Earning My Ears

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    I must say that was the most sensible and fair thing said. But I honestly wouldnt be too into the whole meeting college kids thing this year like i was last year..so its better being potentially bored with her there i suppose..well see what happens..maybe get her a fake id? i can pass as a teen? kidding..but well see
     
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    I get what you're saying, but what's next - you just try to buy alcoholic beverages for all of you to see if you can get away with it?

    I'm no Puritan, I was quite the rowdy teen not that long ago, but in situations like this (cruising on DCL especially), stuff like this is what annoys all real grown ups.

    Repeating - another cruise line such as Carnival may be more befitting to your needs at this time in your lives - until you all get on the same age level at least.
     
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    mbo516 Earning My Ears

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    ah come on though not looking to fight but alcohol and watching a show is completely different..i dont drink thats not what this is about..its just about im in a tough spot with this..as for carnival..no thanks..id rather stay home..
     
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    Well, the problem is that you're an adult dating someone that's not an adult. I'm not saying that's a problem persay- I'm saying in THIS situation that's the problem... so yeah, you need to do what your girlfriend can do for her age. and if you have other family members that are adults too and expect you to be with them- you need to say hey, my girlfriend isn't an adult and I don't want to leave her alone. That's what happens when you're dating someone younger than yourself? :confused3

    LOL Well if you look as young as you say- you're probably more likely to get away with passing as a teen than her passing as an adult- and probably less likely to get "turned in" some teen guessing that you're older- than an adult guessing you're a teen and turning you in. However, as a parent of a teen I wouldn't be so happy about adults being in the stack. HOWEVER... it's actually that way now anyway! If someone is over 18 and still in highschool and/or graduated but hasn't started college yet- they can go in the stack. So potentially there could already be some "almost" 19yr olds in there- against my wishes (LOL) so you'll probably be able to pull that off. *sigh*

    I understand that's a tough age. I know when my daughter is 18 and in college she won't be able to go to the stack- so she'll probably want to see the adult shows/etc. at that time. HOwever, if she's dating someone under 18- she can't try to get the younger person to tag along just so she can still do the adult things. She'd have to make a choice- either go without the person she's dating (or underage relative, friend, etc.) or NOT go and do things that the younger friend/relative/etc. can do.

    Just curious- are you in highschool this year? And you're going in July? If you are in highschool this year and have not started college before the cruise (which I assume you won't have in the summer months) then you ARE eligible to go in the teen stack with her. You can go to adult things with couson who is 18, and teen stack things with girlfriend- from what I've been reading about the age rules. (since if you're 18 and haven't gone to college yet you can still go in the stack)
     

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