Q: To call out rude behavior or not?

[chiefmickeymouse]

DH is the more aggressive one in our family and I have to constantly tell him it's "not his job" to deal with the behaviors of others. For example, in line for TSM, the CM was stopping people from getting in line with food and drinks. Many people were leaving the line and coming back to join their groups with snacks. A few people got through though and my husband felt it incumbant upon him to tell each one that they weren't supposed to have food or drinks in line. These individuals then felt it incumbant upon THEM to tell him where to stick it.

The difference here is that the food and drinks didn't really impede our enjoyment of the ride the way flash photography would. I think you are absolutely within your rights to say something. The problem is that you never know how other people will react when confronted. It is often not worth it.

Oh, and the person with the "special number to someone higher up"...do you mean God?

 

[mking624]

There is nothing about these threads that is DW vs DL.....It is about the theme parks, period. It would be like saying the threads are primarily about MK and if you mention Epcot you are somehow wrong....

Just because WDW has more visitors compared to DL and usually generate the most threads, doesn't meant that DL guests have any less valuable input....

I realize this is off topic, but the forum description does say this:
"Discuss touring plans and strategies for the Disney World theme parks on this board."
Disneyland has its own forum. That said, I don't see anything wrong with people comparing experiences from DL to WDW.

 

[blondemom]

We were stuck in a boat on Pirates of the Carribean with a flash photography crazy man. Every second or two it was going off. It was horrible. The whole boat was asking him nicely to cool it, but he continued. When we got off the boat, there was a cast member standing there who said, "Everyone on this boat is entitled to another ride, follow me and I'll get you right on." He looked over to the man with the camera and said, "I'm sorry, sir. There are many signs that say No Flash Photography. It wasn't nice to ruin everyone's experience. If you want to ride again, you can go to the back of the line."

I was happily stunned.

 

[chiefee1]

We were stuck in a boat on Pirates of the Carribean with a flash photography crazy man. Every second or two it was going off. It was horrible. The whole boat was asking him nicely to cool it, but he continued. When we got off the boat, there was a cast member standing there who said, "Everyone on this boat is entitled to another ride, follow me and I'll get you right on." He looked over to the man with the camera and said, "I'm sorry, sir. There are many signs that say No Flash Photography. It wasn't nice to ruin everyone's experience. If you want to ride again, you can go to the back of the line."

I was happily stunned.

i wish i could have seen the look on his face!!!! i prob would have laughed and pointed at him! they should have taken his camera and threw it in the water!
most cms don't speak up! i would have gotten his name and sent a nice letter to disney!

 

[PIRATEGIRL007]

Would that work?

There aren't FP for every ride, like HM, and I did tell a CM, but of course, she said there isn't much they can do about it, those omnimovers go and go...they can't exactly pull someone off mid-ride.

Yes depending on how your attitude is toward the CM when you report it and what the offense was. Just have to point out that the omnimovers CAN be stopped at any time and are often. How else would those with mobility issues get on and off? They can also pull someone off mid ride as a PP commented. It happens. Probably more than you think. And CM's also can load you back on in the exit area of HM for example and get another ride. We had a doom buggie that had no sound a few years back and I mentioned it to the CM at the exit and he put us back on for another spin. It is actually pretty simple to reload people at most if not all of the rides using different procedures including using the GAC entrances.

 

[TisBit]

Right or wrong, people in general are getting tired of rude behavior. It might be the heat, or just the helplessness people are feeling about what is going on in our country right now. This is something they can strike out at. Most of the time it goes nowhere, other times, it just might mike you feel better. I for one think that you call a duck a duck. If someone is acting out of line, call them on it. Just be ready to accept the feedback from them. I've said it once, so I'll say it again, if the CM's would just do their jobs, most of this would not be necessary.

Unfortunately, it is also this "confrontational" attitude that has caused many situations to get escalated to a point where people get hurt or killed. Take road rage for instance, someone accidentally cuts another vehicle off. That vehicle takes offense and says "I will not tolerate this behavior" and does something back. Now the original driver that never realized they did something to begin with feels they need to respond to this guy who just did whatever to them.

Kind of goes back to two wrongs don't make a right. If someone is rude to you, is it really health or beneficial to be rude back?

I realize this is off topic, but the forum description does say this:
"Discuss touring plans and strategies for the Disney World theme parks on this board."
Disneyland has its own forum. That said, I don't see anything wrong with people comparing experiences from DL to WDW.

Yes, but this isn't even about touring plans or strategies...but behavior in the park, so one could say that the whole topic doesn't apply. The poster specified similar behavior at another park...even if it was at Sea World, it would be on topic, I just don't understand calling somoene out on posting about DL (but maybe this is very much what the whole thread is about. Someone said something I felt was rude to the poster and I felt it was necessary to call them out on it....in the spirit of my above post, I will move on and not continue to argue the point).

 

[Pills]

We were stuck in a boat on Pirates of the Carribean with a flash photography crazy man. Every second or two it was going off. It was horrible. The whole boat was asking him nicely to cool it, but he continued. When we got off the boat, there was a cast member standing there who said, "Everyone on this boat is entitled to another ride, follow me and I'll get you right on." He looked over to the man with the camera and said, "I'm sorry, sir. There are many signs that say No Flash Photography. It wasn't nice to ruin everyone's experience. If you want to ride again, you can go to the back of the line."

I was happily stunned.

i wish i could have seen the look on his face!!!! i prob would have laughed and pointed at him! they should have taken his camera and threw it in the water!
most cms don't speak up! i would have gotten his name and sent a nice letter to disney!

Actually, that would've been a GREAT time to get a picture of him... using your flash, of course!

 

[mking624]

Yes, but this isn't even about touring plans or strategies...but behavior in the park, so one could say that the whole topic doesn't apply. The poster specified similar behavior at another park...even if it was at Sea World, it would be on topic, I just don't understand calling somoene out on posting about DL (but maybe this is very much what the whole thread is about. You said something I felt was rude to the poster and I felt it was necessary to call you out on it....in the spirit of my above post, I will move on and not continue to argue the point).

Ok I see what you're saying and I do agree, thank you for clarifying. However I am utterly confused about what you mean when you say this...
"You said something I felt was rude to the poster and I felt it was necessary to call you out on it"
Are you referring to me? Because I wasn't rude to anyone here...only shared my own experiences with aggressive park behavior. Or are you just speaking about calling out people in general?

 

[TisBit]

Ok I see what you're saying and I do agree, thank you for clarifying. However I am utterly confused about what you mean when you say this...
"You said something I felt was rude to the poster and I felt it was necessary to call you out on it"
Are you referring to me? Because I wasn't rude to anyone here...only shared my own experiences with aggressive park behavior. Or are you just speaking about calling out people in general?

Sorry, it was Stitchpawn....I will amend my post!

 

[tjmj9801]

Take a very small water pistol, they are so busy trying to figure out where that water is coming from they stop flashing.

Not something I would try, but I wouldn't mind watching it happen!

Last time we we on Haunted Mansion, and we were in the graveyard scene, someone a few cars in front of us was taking flash pictures.

My wife held out "Hey, everybody! We must have somebody important on this ride, since they obviously don't feel the need to follow the rules and take flash pictures! Everybody clap for the famous person!"

A few people starting clapping.

The flashing stopped.

It was epic.

I would try this!

We were stuck in a boat on Pirates of the Carribean with a flash photography crazy man. Every second or two it was going off. It was horrible. The whole boat was asking him nicely to cool it, but he continued. When we got off the boat, there was a cast member standing there who said, "Everyone on this boat is entitled to another ride, follow me and I'll get you right on." He looked over to the man with the camera and said, "I'm sorry, sir. There are many signs that say No Flash Photography. It wasn't nice to ruin everyone's experience. If you want to ride again, you can go to the back of the line."

I was happily stunned.

Awesome!

 

[LoveToDisney]

When I was on pirates in January, there was someone taking flash photos. After the 10th photo or so, someone shouted "No FLASH PHOTOS!"

The culprit did it again.

This time an entire boat yelled 'NO FLASH PHOTOS'

The culprit did it again.

The ride stopped, and the voice from above said "Take a hint from others on the ride- no flash photography allowed".

The ride started, we made it through another scene and then... ****FLASH*******


There were CMs there to escort the flasher out

Wahoo!

 

[LoveToDisney]

I have a hard time dealing with rude people, my DDs would look at me when they seen someone was stressing me, and say "Mom, just keep swimming, just keep swimming", lol
So every time from there on out, when we were faced with someone's rudeness, we channeled Dory, and sung our song. We got some strange looks, but we walked away laughing, rather than getting angry and letting someone ruin our good time.
I'm sure we'll use this plenty on our up coming trip!

This is a cute idea. Thanks for sharing!

 

[jensen]

So, last May...

One women decided to take flash pictures during HM ride, blinding everyone 10 cars in front and behind her, I was so angry I couldn't even speak, and when she got off the ride, she said how another lady 'freaked' at her and she needed to 'get over it'. And then she laughed and walked away. Still, so angry at this lady's rude, inconsiderate behavior, couldn't speak...

The there was a pedestrain jam before a parade, where I did say I was refusing to cut in front of the special needs kids in a wheelchair and a lady in a scooter, which worked out well.

Anyways, normally in the past I was letting most things slide, but when I go this October, I think I might call out rude behavior. If people stopped letting other ppl get away with it, eventually the word would get around, even to non-planners.

And teenagers.... -.- Seriously, if they can't behave, don't bring them!

This is exactly why I appreciate these boards so much! Instead of yelling at some idiot at the parks, I come back here and vent to my hearts content with the like-minded folks on here.

I'd suggest that when you encounter one of these situations, put it your memory bank for the list of things you'll report on here when you get back. I bet by the time you return home, you'll only remember one or two events that were really bad enough to share with us anyway.

Have fun and we'll be here when you get home!

 

[Ex Cast Member]

I agree that it does slightly interfere with it...but to "blind" 20 cars of people? come on? ?Yes it's annoying...but not quite that severe.

Actually, Yes it is that severe. Any flashes on any dark ride is distracting and annoying.
The "No Flash Photography" rule is there for a reason, and it isnt just to be mean and not let people take pictures.

 

[Meshell2002]

I don't know about Mickey bars, but if popcorn on the internet counted, I'd be 20lbs heavier than I am now.

mmmmm EXTRA butter

 

[Texas Rob]

To the OP, I do feel your pain (honestly). It is very frustrating being around others who don't abide by rules that are in place for a specific reason (for the good of the greater). However, I would ask you to take a big deep breath and just let them walk on by you. I wouldn't let a 3 minute encounter ruin your entire vacation for you and your family. At this point, I would go the opposite direction in the park and enjoy the rest of the day however hard that may be. Hang in there!

 

[Silvermist999]

As irritating as these people are, I wouldn't say anything. Unless it directly affected my children in a negative way. Like if they butt in front of them in a line-up or stood in front of them so they couldn't see a thing during the parade. Then I would speak up.

 

[nessz79]

I would only say something if it was outrageously rude. Pushing someone to get in front, for example.
I wouldn't say something about more minor things. In fact, I try not to give much notice to the minor rude things (and I'm someone who greatly values polite behavior)...it just ruins my mood if I notice everything. Not saying I'm perfect. I have my days where it's hard to turn that off.

 

[livndisney]

There is a fine line between "calling out the rude" and becoming rude yourself.

Very true and yet so many people fail to understand that.

 

[StitchSpawn]

Unfortunately, it is also this "confrontational" attitude that has caused many situations to get escalated to a point where people get hurt or killed. Take road rage for instance, someone accidentally cuts another vehicle off. That vehicle takes offense and says "I will not tolerate this behavior" and does something back. Now the original driver that never realized they did something to begin with feels they need to respond to this guy who just did whatever to them.

Kind of goes back to two wrongs don't make a right. If someone is rude to you, is it really health or beneficial to be rude back?
).

You don't have to be rude back to politely say, "Excuse me, can you please stop taking flash photography. It is ruining the experience for us." There is a difference between this and road rage...really

And maybe because I've been through a few experiences like this, on and off WDW, just because you had a bad day or have anger management problems, doesn't mean you have the RIGHT to bully me. They still mostly do it because they can, and they aren't going to learn until society makes them stop. I will defend myself, calmly and politely. I win whether they stop or not because my behavior was better then theirs and benefits me in life more than there behavior.

Road rage is totally different than flash photography in a dark ride...