Jon & Kate plus 8 budget?

[luvchip]

I believe the resort is the Grand Wailea on Maui. I was there last year for my honeymoon. We didn't stay at this resort, but we had dinner there. It is beautiful and according to my DH, lots of celebrities stay there especially sports celebrities.
Again, good for Jon and Kate and the kids, they probably would never have had this opportunity without the show. I loved Hawaii and am grateful we got to go. I know if we have 8 kids we wouldn't return without some sort of drastic increase in income.

We were there in February and the resort is not cheap!! However, it is very beautiful and would love to go back. We went with my husbands company who picked up the whole tab and I know the rooms at a corporate rate were 475.00 a night for a room with a king bed . They are very fortunate if the show paid for this trip.

 

[Muffy]

Ah yes, I found it, so they might be moving into this

I really don't care at this point as I rarely watch the show anymore. I hope they are happy.

Wow! What a beautiful home! I'm so happy for the Gosselin's!

Thank you for posting a picture!

 

[Ms_Butterfly]

I don't think Kate has gone back to work as a nurse. I haven't watched the show lately, but I'm pretty sure her salary as a reality star covers her expenses so that she doesn't have to work another job.

They talked about it on at least two episodes, so that's what I'm going by - something they themselves said.



Also, I forgot to mention:

Reality shows are HIGHLY edited, sometimes to the point where they're almost works of fiction. Editors cut and paste things to make them seem one way, when in reality they may have been something very different. They cut and paste things in different orders, too, so sometimes one thing happened on one day, but in the show it looks like it happened on a different day.

My cousin is good friends with a family who was on that ABC show "Wife Swap". After it aired, she couldn't believe how the show strung it together to make the family look like complete morons who were brainwashed by religion, as that is not at all who the family is or how they act and all. But for ratings, the show edits the clips so all the families and situations look bad. The family, in reality, is very normal, not overly religious, not morons, and they don't act like the show portrayed they do.

In a half-hour- to hour-long show, all we get to see are the tiniest snippets of a person's day/week/two weeks. It is not enough to get any/much real information from and it is highly edited to suit the particular producer's tastes (often influenced by network execs, who are influenced by ratings and advertising).

In actuality, "reality" TV is not real.

 

[i3utterfli82]

Kate has not gone back to work. In fact in one of her appearances she stated she would never go back to nursing. On the latest tv interview she said the show is their job. I do not believe Jon is working anymore, except for the show.

 

[dclfun]

I had heard on one show, from Jon's mouth, that he is now working for their friend ( the ones who have the HUGE estate home that they often visit). I personally liked the show originally but now it is too "staged". This is not the Gosselin family's doing, I'm sure, but the producers. It seems every show is now an advertisement/endorsement for a product, resort, venue, etc. If a company wants to give them a freebie, I'm all for that, but how can this family enjoy what they've received if it's all being filmed? So much for spontaneity. One episode that comes to mind is the anniversary dinner that was being filmed with frequent shots of the restaurant sign. So much for a private romantic meal. I don't watch the show anymore as it's now just one giant endorsement and I feel the kids are now old enough to know they're on TV and thus it's not fair to them, no matter what kind of money the family is earning by selling out their personal lives. Funny thing is, I still watch and enjoy "Little People/Big World" as this family still seems genuine and real situations are shown. Matt spoke out about protecting Molly's privacy and the feelings of their children and educating the public are importances that take front and center stage for this series, not exploitation and free advertising.---Kathy

 

[Mom2Nick]

They talked about it on at least two episodes, so that's what I'm going by - something they themselves said.


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What recent episodes has this been mentioned on? She did work a few shifts when little ones were younger and older episodes have been repeating so maybe you saw that. I highly doubt Jon isn't working at all and Kate has decided to pick up a nursing shift......

 

[luvsJack]

I didn't read this whole thread, just the few few pages, but I must say:

- Kate seems to have a mental condition called Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. If you don't have it or know somebody with it, you may very well not understand it and how things like using other people's used items, getting messy/germy, being unorganized, etc. actually can be terrifying, painful, true anxiety-provoking/panic attack-provoking, etc. While there are some things one can do to get some treatment, it is a lifelong brain disorder. So, if you wouldn't get mad for a paraplegic not standing up out of his wheelchair, don't throw a hissy fit over people like Kate with OCD.

My Assistant Director in our child care center had OCD and she did have a hard time. But, NEVER, EVER did she act like Kate. She would have been out of a job if she had. She washed her hands over and over, took her half an hour each night to close up because she checked the locks and the air conditioner/heater over and over, double the gloves when she changed diapers, etc. She was put on meds that helped a lot and made it so that she could deal with the kids messiness (although she never did get out of the building in less than 30 minutes at night). Kids=messiness. If Kate is OCD she should be working with her dr. to learn to deal with it not putting her kids through her fits. Its not fair that they should be made a nervous wreck "because they may get dirty". Its just like someone with adult ADD or anything else; you learn to work with it and you learn not to subject everyone else to your own issues.

 

[shortbun]

I watched this show for the first time the other night. It was the WDW vacation episode. I didn't like it. The mother seems abrasive and high maintenance. The kids are cute. I found myself feeling sorry for the dad and the kids. At one point, one of the kids was having a meltdown and the mother just grabbed him by the arm and said, "come on, you've earned a day with Daddy" like being with Dad was punishment. The poor little boy just wanted to ride Dumbo again. She was just dragging him away. Then she shrieked at the Dad in the teacups ride too. Don't even start about the ice cream eating mess. Yes, I believe she's OCD. Why would someone with such a violent reaction to messiness want more than two children, lol? My Dad was OCD and he made us all miserable. I could not watch this show regularly nor ever spend any time with her.

 

[TotalSnowWhite]

My Assistant Director in our child care center had OCD and she did have a hard time. But, NEVER, EVER did she act like Kate. She would have been out of a job if she had. She washed her hands over and over, took her half an hour each night to close up because she checked the locks and the air conditioner/heater over and over, double the gloves when she changed diapers, etc. She was put on meds that helped a lot and made it so that she could deal with the kids messiness (although she never did get out of the building in less than 30 minutes at night). Kids=messiness. If Kate is OCD she should be working with her dr. to learn to deal with it not putting her kids through her fits. Its not fair that they should be made a nervous wreck "because they may get dirty". Its just like someone with adult ADD or anything else; you learn to work with it and you learn not to subject everyone else to your own issues.

You do realize the symptoms you mentioned are specific to your director's case, right? Granted those are the symptoms that are "publicized," but no two OCD cases are alike. I was diagnosed years ago, and I don't have a cleanliness issue. I don't wash my hands in scalding water, touch the doorknobs several times, etc. Unless you have it, you don't know the internal issues and struggles one deals with, so please don't make broad assumptions about the disease.

 

[shortbun]

You do realize the symptoms you mentioned are specific to your director's case, right? Granted those are the symptoms that are "publicized," but no two OCD cases are alike. I was diagnosed years ago, and I don't have a cleanliness issue. I don't wash my hands in scalding water, touch the doorknobs several times, etc. Unless you have it, you don't know the internal issues and struggles one deals with, so please don't make broad assumptions about the disease.

I also think we're talking about the mother in the TV show, Kate. Her issues with OCD-at least some of them- are pretty clear. Having lived with someone who was severely OCD, I understand what those children are dealing with. My Dad didn't have cleanliness issues but the ones he did have-WOW! As a small child, understanding is less likely than saddness at least that was how my siblings and I reacted. As adults, we understand but were shaped by it anyway.

 

[TotalSnowWhite]

I also think we're talking about the mother in the TV show, Kate. Her issues with OCD-at least some of them- are pretty clear. Having lived with someone who was severely OCD, I understand what those children are dealing with. My Dad didn't have cleanliness issues but the ones he did have-WOW! As a small child, understanding is less likely than saddness at least that was how my siblings and I reacted. As adults, we understand but were shaped by it anyway.

I'm a JK8 fan, and this would be an easy scapegoat for her, but I'm not totally convinced she has OCD as much as she's extremely high maintenance. I do have hotel floor (and sheets) issues, though, but that's not part of my OCD. It's just icky!

 

[Ms_Butterfly]

You do realize the symptoms you mentioned are specific to your director's case, right? Granted those are the symptoms that are "publicized," but no two OCD cases are alike. I was diagnosed years ago, and I don't have a cleanliness issue. I don't wash my hands in scalding water, touch the doorknobs several times, etc. Unless you have it, you don't know the internal issues and struggles one deals with, so please don't make broad assumptions about the disease.

Exactly. Some people are so paralyzed by their OCD that they cannot leave their houses. Some people never throw anything away for fear (I mean REAL fear) they may need it, so everything piles up until the house is a literal disaster area. Some people can't step on cracks in sidewalks or metal drains in the road. Some people are constantly burdened with thoughts about what if a loved one dies or gets hurt. Some people only have obsessions (thoughts), some only compulsions (actions), some have both. Everyone's symptoms are different and there are some people only have mild OCD, some moderate OCD, and some severe OCD.

Medication works for some people, it doesn't for all.

OCD is a constant, daily battle that affects and interrupts ppl's lives. While the show "Monk" may be funny to watch, OCD in real life can be a terrible thing to live with or have a loved one live with.

 

[Ms_Butterfly]

If Kate is OCD she should be working with her dr. to learn to deal with it not putting her kids through her fits. Its not fair that they should be made a nervous wreck "because they may get dirty". Its just like someone with adult ADD or anything else; you learn to work with it and you learn not to subject everyone else to your own issues.

OCD is not an "issue"/somebody's "own issues". It is a brain disorder and a lifelong battle, just like somebody who has visual impairments or hearing impairments or mobility impairments.

Kate may not know or acknowledge she has OCD. That is common. Even if she is working with a doctor, there is no guarantee it will improve. You can't just "learn to deal with" OCD; it is a serious disorder.

OCD is not fair, not that people who have it/may have it choose to live like everybody else and have husbands and families.

 

[luvsJack]

OCD is not an "issue"/somebody's "own issues". It is a brain disorder and a lifelong battle, just like somebody who has visual impairments or hearing impairments or mobility impairments.

Kate may not know or acknowledge she has OCD. That is common. Even if she is working with a doctor, there is no guarantee it will improve. You can't just "learn to deal with" OCD; it is a serious disorder.

OCD is not fair, not that people who have it/may have it choose to live like everybody else and have husbands and families.

I am well aware of what OCD is and how bad it can be.

OT, but my son is bi-polar (was first diagnosed ADHD), another disorder that will not improve. Before diagnosis we dealt with constant anger outbursts. He takes his meds, sees his drs. and now when the bad moods or anger are coming on he uses the tools he has been given to calm down, walk away or whatever and does not cause us to have to be subject to his anger outbursts. Other parts of the disorder we will always be dealing with. Bi-polar and ADHD are also disorders of the brain.

The person I knew with OCD used tools she learned also. I was not saying that everyone with OCD has any certain symptoms or that they can be "cured" or that the same treatment will work. I was comparing my Assistant Director to Kate, which is who I thought we were talking about. Kate, obviously does not have problems throwing things away or leaving her home. Obviously her problem (or whatever word you would like to use) is with cleanliness. IF (and I, of course, have no way of knowing what she has or doesn't have) she is OCD she should be working with a dr to see IF she can use the tools my co-worker used to live a semi-normal life and to allow her kids to be normal kids.

I in no way meant to insult anyone with OCD, I know very well what its like to live with a misunderstood disorder. I was not speaking about everyone with OCD, I know that having OCD is nothing like Monk, I was only talking about Kate and the things she shows of her personality, disorder or whatever.

 

[kid-at-heart]

Her characteristics do not follow the OCD spectrum.

 

[pigget74]

Glad to know that we are all doctors, bx specialists, mortgage brokers and such...

 

[Minnie's Pal]

Glad to know that we are all doctors, bx specialists, mortgage brokers and such...

 

[TotalSnowWhite]

Glad to know that we are all doctors, bx specialists, mortgage brokers and such...

That's why my vote was high maintenance!! Of course, I come from a family of medical professionals (OB, MD, Pharm, RN and a mom who's a therapist) and teachers, so maybe that's just my rebellion against diagnoses and overthinking!!

 

[Kycha]

Glad to know that we are all doctors, bx specialists, mortgage brokers and such...

Okay...what's a bx specialist???

Anyway, I wonder if Kate hasn't sought therapy. I have watched the show from the beginning. And have noticed that Kate has gotten a lot better in recent shows. The episode where she took the girls to the pottery place comes to mind. Even though the kids were bound to get dirty, Kate just sat back and really enjoyed herself and didn't stress out at all. I know a lot of critical people said she is doing that as damage control. But, it is possible that she has gotten some sort of treatment/therapy/medication to handle her disorder(or whatever it is).

 

[pigget74]

Okay...what's a bx specialist???

Sorry--bx specialist is a coding that I use at work---it is a behavior specialist.