Is it Juan-uary yet? Bachelor Juan Pablo dish - NO SPOILERS please!!!

[Robinrs]

Sorry, but that still would make no difference to me at all.
Again, Clare, The Producers, anything else at all...
None of those things can be used to absolve this man.
Just because she may, or may not, have engaged in a little 'talk' does not have any bearing on Juan Pablos attitudes and actions.

Still can't figure out why there are so many people who are trying to justify the man?

In fact, the fact that Juan Pablo tryed to act all pious and high and mighty and try to place blame on Clare, the woman, right after that ocean incident, just cements what an (again, insert word of choice here) he is. That line of thought is one of the the things that was a huge huge red flag, right then.

Lots of people try to justify him, not specifically here but on FB and Twitter he has his fans that stick to that stupid mantra of he's just being HONEST. I have to keep reminding myself that there are women who penpal serial killers...

Cassandra was quoted as saying that he slept with three women that she knows of, for a fact.

We can assume that Clare and Nikki are two of them, but who was the third? I sure as heck hope it wasn't Andi.

Any man who sleeps with several women as a test run, is a pig in my eyes, and any woman with a shred of self-respect would run away as quickly as possible, once realizing it.

Sounds like she was just guessing: http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/...narcissistic-slept-with-three-girls-16043.php

The Bachelor' bachelorette Cassandra Ferguson: Juan Pablo Galavis was rude, narcissistic, slept with three girls


By Elizabeth Kwiatkowski, 03/12/2014

The Bachelor bachelorette admits she believes Juan Pablo Galavis had sex with three women during the show's recently-concluded eighteenth season.



"I am pretty sure that he banged three people. That is just me making a very educated guess," Ferguson laughed during an interview with Detroit's WDZH 87.7 radio station on Tuesday.

Three women -- Nikki Ferrell, Clare Crawley and Andi Dorfman -- were given fantasy-suite overnight dates with The Bachelor star, which is the time intimacy can go down without any cameras around.


At the end of the season, Galavis told Ferrell, the woman who had received his final rose, he had a ring in his pocket but wasn't going to use it because he wasn't 100 percent sure about whether he should propose. Galavis basically dangled the treat in front of her face and pulled it away.

"He's like, 'Well what are you going to do to get this ring?' I just feel like he's so narcissistic, like, 'This is all about me.' It's a relationship. It's two people. It's not just about Juan Pablo and what he wants and when he's going to give her the ring. That, to me, is such a jab at her. As a woman, I would be like, 'Alright, do you like me or not? I don't care if you like me a lot. Is this serious or not?'" Ferguson explained.

Before picking Ferrell, the bachelorette had written Galavis a love letter, expressing her feelings for him and how she viewed their entire experience together on the show. Galavis read the letter and basically bolted.

"She wrote him a note and he said, 'Okay, I got to go,' and he left! I would've cried too! That was so rude," Ferguson exclaimed.

Ferguson also said, as others have speculated, that Galavis' drastic change of plans two weeks ago was finding out he wouldn't be on Dancing with the Stars in Los Angeles like he had expected.

"But people were thinking they had a fight or that something was wrong," Ferguson said of Galavis' evasiveness. "He should've just said -- that's the thing about him. He never just comes out and says what's going on. He's just so vague about everything. It's ridiculous."

Ferguson, a 22-year-old former NBA dancer from Rochester Hills, MI, was ousted in the middle of a group date when Galavis was determining his Final 6 bachelorettes. The Bachelor sent her home to be with her young son since he realized he was sure she wouldn't be the last girl standing in the end.

Read more at http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/...ith-three-girls-16043.php#MxgLLpmb2PErZdD1.99

 

[lucas]

From CNN:

'The Bachelor': Six ways Juan Pablo lost this season
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/11/showbiz/tv/juan-pablo-the-bachelor-finale/index.html?hpt=hp_c3

 

[Robinrs]

From CNN:

'The Bachelor': Six ways Juan Pablo lost this season
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/11/showbiz/tv/juan-pablo-the-bachelor-finale/index.html?hpt=hp_c3

Seventh Way:

When your women start off like this:

and end up like this:

.

It's not everybody else's fault! Comprende?

 

[pkondz]

"Oh, Lord. Please let this be over. I just want out of here. Please Lord, let it be over. Please, oh please...."

 

[Robinrs]

"Oh, Lord. Please let this be over. I just want out of here. Please Lord, let it be over. Please, oh please...."

She looks totally humiliated...pathetic.

 

[yoopermom]

They are on the cover of People this week, and even in that article, he comes off as sounding like a you-know-what. Considering how that magazine makes everything sound sweet, it's amazing he could screw even that up!

Terri

 

[java]

Us weekly has the he slept with nikki's best friends and it's over......

That's as much as I could read in the checkout line!

 

[MagicallyDelicious]

Us weekly has the he slept with nikki's best friends and it's over......

That's as much as I could read in the checkout line!

Geez.

 

[kimmar067]

Seventh Way:

When your women start off like this:

and end up like this:

.

It's not everybody else's fault! Comprende?

 

[threeboysmom]

I am in no way defending Juan Pablo nor do I even like him. BUT... I feel there's a double standard here.

I'm willing to bet that the majority of men that sign up to be on Bachelor are there not necessarily to find love, but to date multiple women, frolic in hot tubs and pools with multiple women in bikinis, and spend the night with multiple women. I'm also willing to bet that come the end of the season, most of those men, after having a great time throughout the season with these multiple half-naked gorgeous women, are not even sure they "love" this final woman, but yet they still get down on one knee and propose to her... knowing full well that they have 0% intent on following through with an actual wedding. Which is why most contestants never actually get married. The Bachelor is just a fun & legitimate excuse for romping with & bedding many women at the same time. Juan Pablo is guilty of not even bothering to hide his true piggish intentions from the viewers and even from the girls themselves. He was a blatant pig. Most guys try to pretend they're not pigs... when they may very well be in the privacy of their minds. Which is worse?

Aside from that, he IS egotistical and has anger issues, but as far as being a playboy? Seriously, if a guy can get away with it (and they can on Bachelor for whatever reason), they will.

 

[Wishing on a star]

Yep, the man is an absolute pig.

Why the fact that, after being led to believe that 'he loved her', 'he loved the way she talked about her dad', Camilla', etc... etc... that Clare may have been mislead and held on to some hope and made a couple of VERY STUPID decisions has any bearing on a discussion about Juan Pablo's character... Well, it doesn't

(and let's not forget the fact that the man is SO LOW that he is not beyond using a woman's beloved deceased father, or his own daughter, to get a woman to do the deed.. OMG... just OMG)

Clare was asked why she didn't walk away right then... and she tried to answer. Her quick answer was "I should have."

Juan Pablo is a man who told one woman, and I think we can quote here... "I love ******* you." just mere hours before he thought he could sail off into the sunset, doing another woman... (whom he has not even professed any feelings for, or commitment to.)

That, IMHO, is the only factor here.
And, any other discussion, which might assign any blame or responsibility on anyone else, ever... is not a valid discussion.

Except for maybe the current ongoing topic of NIKKI, who really must have some very serious issues, or be the biggest (insert name of choice here), DIDN"T/HASN'T walked away. seriously.

All my bets were that in the end EVERY ONE of the women would walk away on little Juan Pablo. The fact that Nikki did not, well... WOW.

 

[kimmar067]

....well, she may already have.....as I was checking out on line at the grocery store last night, I eyed one of those tabloids with them [JP and Nikki] front-and-center and the caption, with something to the effect that they have already split because she caught him with her friend(?) (I think ). Of course, I didn't bother to take the rag mag off the shelf to read the inside, but I could just imagine what's inside...

 

[Imzadi]

No, there was a pic of them last night at some charity benefit, all (fake) smiles. Billy Bush, on Access Hollywood, was saying,
After JP made such a big stink about wanting to keep their relationship private from now on, they are suddenly showing up at public events together.

I think both JP and the producers are out to do damage control and each keep from being sued. JP didn't actually keep to the "spirit of the show," on ATFR.

And someone posted a page back, that Chris Harrison, the face/voice of the show, is kind of back pedaling.

The producers probably threatened JP to do some public appearances, or hand back some of that money. He probably said, speak nicer about him.

As I recall, there was speculation that Ben & Courtney, and Emily & Brad had to stay together for a period of time after the show was over, if they wanted to make extra money and keep the ring. Seems JP & Nikki are doing the same now.

 

[Robinrs]

I am in no way defending Juan Pablo nor do I even like him. BUT... I feel there's a double standard here.

I'm willing to bet that the majority of men that sign up to be on Bachelor are there not necessarily to find love, but to date multiple women, frolic in hot tubs and pools with multiple women in bikinis, and spend the night with multiple women. I'm also willing to bet that come the end of the season, most of those men, after having a great time throughout the season with these multiple half-naked gorgeous women, are not even sure they "love" this final woman, but yet they still get down on one knee and propose to her... knowing full well that they have 0% intent on following through with an actual wedding. Which is why most contestants never actually get married. The Bachelor is just a fun & legitimate excuse for romping with & bedding many women at the same time. Juan Pablo is guilty of not even bothering to hide his true piggish intentions from the viewers and even from the girls themselves. He was a blatant pig. Most guys try to pretend they're not pigs... when they may very well be in the privacy of their minds. Which is worse?

Aside from that, he IS egotistical and has anger issues, but as far as being a playboy? Seriously, if a guy can get away with it (and they can on Bachelor for whatever reason), they will.

I totally agree with everything you said, but that's really not the point.

Everyone has intentions, everyone has an agenda... it's the way it's carried out and the way you leave people FEELING that makes the difference.

I read "How to Win Friends and Influence People" centuries ago and it taught me one special thing. If you don't leave people with the feeling of "wow, what a nice person" you've accomplished NOTHING. Too many people are concentrating on the particulars, well he didn't have to be in love, those girls are fools, he had the language barrier...

The bottom line is he left millions...and I repeat...MILLIONS of people with a nasty taste in their mouths. And you know what? Thasss not okay...

What he DID accomplish is bring to the forefront the idiocy of the premise of the show and justify the naysayers who always hated it anyway. It's been a subject of debate on every news show, every talk show and what it does to the brand is yet to be seen.

I agree with Imzadi, SOMEONE wrangled his obnoxious *** in and reminded him of what he signed. Those contracts are no joke and he could lose his shirt if he doesn't comply and I don't think any big paychecks are coming his way any time soon, unless in bilingual porn.

 

[TLHB70]

I didn't watch the show but I have been intrigued by all of the drama surrounding it. Just in case it wasn't shared here, I thought I would let you all know that Clare was on GMA this morning. Her segment aired around 8:20 AM for those that are in time zones later than east coast.

 

[kimmar067]

....I couldn't wait for this season to be over...it was like waiting for a wounded moose to be put out of its misery...

 

[Ride Junkie]

The more pics I see of Nikki, the more she reminds me of that scowling little kid from "Love Actually" and "Nanny McPhee".

 

[Disneylover99]

The more pics I see of Nikki, the more she reminds me of that scowling little kid from "Love Actually" and "Nanny McPhee".

I can see it.

 

[iheartdisney]

NIkki and Andi both remind me of this little gem
**caution- link contains lots of usage of the b word**
B****y Resting Face

 

[kimmar067]

I can see it.

OMG....totally!