No one is saying Marriott doesn't have some beautiful properties. But this trust they've set up seems to be based on the notion that they have to keep building, and selling off older properties. I see some problems with that whole thing. As new properties are added, like with DVC, they have to sell in order to turn a profit.
Let us say that the trust has 100 properties fully sold, and they build a new property, which also has to be sold, but sell off one of the older properties, so now they have 100% of the properties trying to house 110% of the members, as no one has left the trust when the older property sold....if they are forever members of the trust. It could lead quickly to overselling a resort.
It really doesn't seem sustainable long term.
(I've written a few messages to Chuck today in response to this thread but maybe it's better if I stop bothering him and join in here. As a Marriott Weeks owner who has been religiously reading the disboards for years, I'm convinced that Marriott's new Destination Club points-based model combines the best of both Marriott and DVC - flexible stay options not limited to a single week, banking and borrowing options, an extensive network of quality resorts, etc. That Marriott has managed to set up their new system in such a way that we existing Weeks owners can play without having to make a new purchase of DC Trust Points, by allowing us to add the DC exchange options as an add-on to our Weeks, is appreciated by me and many other Marriott owners. I'm in the camp that believes the onsite immersion at WDW is DVC's greatest feature so you can imagine it was a very sad day when DVC left II's portfolio for RCI. If not for the lack of DVC access with Marriott, I'd say the new product is perfect. And for purposes of this thread, I prefer DVC's expiring contract model to Marriott's forever after model - my biggest timeshare worry is that our children will be saddled with an ownership they don't want.)
Anyway, Chuck, about your post here. Marriott's Destination Club Trust was established in Florida which if I'm not mistaken is also the case with DVC, which means it has to be in compliance with all of the same regulations relating to inventory controls as DVC. It would be illegal for Marriott to oversell DC Trust Points.
In the governing documents for Marriott Weeks Marriott is given leeway to arbitrarily and immediately sever any connection with any resort. But it's only happened in a few instances and all of those were before my time. As far as I can tell from my docs, if Marriott severs the relationship with a resort then the ownership remains with the resort but the individual owners' connections to Marriott are done. The owners' responsibility then transfers to whatever entity assumes the management of the resort, whether that would be a new management company or an owner-assumed management similar to a stand-alone condo. It's not known what the impact will be on any unsold Weeks that Marriott held at the resort and/or conveyed to the Trust, but it's speculated that if Marriott had conveyed any intervals then that would be a point in favor of Marriott NOT severing the connection.
I haven't purchased DC Trust Points so I'm not certain of how the legalities will transpire if Marriott severs the relationship with a Trust-only property, but there's no chance that Marriott could separate itself from enough conveyed property to result in Trust Members owning more points than can be allocated to inventory available for their use. It simply can't happen. It could happen that an individual owner might not have access to a certain favorite resort any longer, but that owner could still use his ownership at any of the remaining Trust properties.
And like JimC says, Marriott was sitting on a glut of inventory when the Trust/Points model was rolled out and there are no immediate plans for new development. With the economic conditions being what they are, it's going to take years for Marriott to come anywhere near close to selling off the inventory they're holding.
Thanks for letting me join your party. After reading here for years and taking advantage of the
DVC rental board, it's nice to be able to maybe pay back some of what you've all given me.