GRAND OPENING - GRAND CLOSING (Florida)

[wombat_5606]

It goes both ways. Yes, the knob who refuses to wear a mask in a grocery store is wrong. After all, everyone wearing a mask indoors is the right thing to do, and the only way the grocery store can be open. What about the people who are berating their neighbors because they aren't wearing masks while walking their dogs, or going to the beach, or really any setting outside where giving someone 6' distance (the length of a dog leash BTW) is almost hard not to do? They are equally wrong IMHO.

They may be wrong. I just don't think they are the worst.

If it isn't 6ft distance, masks should still be worn. Some places where people are outside don't have that type of spacing for the number of people present. I went to the zoo with my daughter and granddaughter and there were several paths that were too narrow to maintain 6ft distance.

My experience has been that someone who isn't wearing a mask/or not correctly, could give a rat about distance either.

 

[Wreckem]

Saw my favorite "internet fact" today just a minute ago....

"CDC director says there's more suicides and over doses than all of Covid deaths, look up the transcript"

I look it up..............and.................

It was from a webinar where he says "among high schoolers"

And he is discussing rates.........

The truthers are really grasping at straws these days....I don't understand the confidence to say "look it up" and then apparently not knowing yet about google get proven wrong so fast. It's fascinating to watch.

Maybe they think we have to drive to a library or something and pull up film so we wont?

Yeah that thread got nuked. I still don’t know how someone says some of that stuff in that threat with a against face.There is so much wrong information that gets posted in that thread.

They want to down play the pandemic. Now they want to downplay the economic crisis. The numbers on both tell the story but people want to ignore the numbers.

 

[dlavender]

Yeah that thread got nuked. I still don’t know how someone says some of that stuff in that threat with a against face.There is so much wrong information that gets posted in that thread.

They want to down play the pandemic. Now they want to downplay the economic crisis. The numbers on both tell the story but people want to ignore the numbers.

They were all about it until the numbers started going against their agenda and now they don’t want to have the discussion beyond passive aggressive swipes.

 

[Lumpy1106]

They may be wrong. I just don't think they are the worst.

If it isn't 6ft distance, masks should still be worn. Some places where people are outside don't have that type of spacing for the number of people present. I went to the zoo with my daughter and granddaughter and there were several paths that were too narrow to maintain 6ft distance.

My experience has been that someone who isn't wearing a mask/or not correctly, could give a rat about distance either.

If you are outside, relax. It is nearly impossible to spread COVID in a setting where you are passing someone for one second OUTSIDE. That's why I don't agree with the restrictions as they are being dolled out. OUTDOORS, they don't have any basis on science. Indoors, yes, outdoors no. BUT, don't get me wrong, if you are visiting the zoo and the zoo had to mandate wearing masks to be worn at all times to be open, then yes, you and everyone else should be following this mandate to the best of your ability. Anyone that does not want to follow that should stay home. That's not to protect you though, that's to support the zoo. They have enough to worry about.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

If you are outside, relax. It is nearly impossible to spread COVID in a setting where you are passing someone for one second OUTSIDE. That's why I don't agree with the restrictions as they are being dolled out. OUTDOORS, they don't have any basis on science. Indoors, yes, outdoors no. BUT, don't get me wrong, if you are visiting the zoo and the zoo had to mandate wearing masks to be worn at all times to be open, then yes, you and everyone else should be following this mandate to the best of your ability. Anyone that does not want to follow that should stay home. That's not to protect you though, that's to support the zoo. They have enough to worry about.

I'm not sure this is true. Hong Kong recently mandated masks outside at all times for all people, and they've only had 3000 total cases.

 

[wombat_5606]

If you are outside, relax. It is nearly impossible to spread COVID in a setting where you are passing someone for one second OUTSIDE. That's why I don't agree with the restrictions as they are being dolled out. OUTDOORS, they don't have any basis on science. Indoors, yes, outdoors no. BUT, don't get me wrong, if you are visiting the zoo and the zoo had to mandate wearing masks to be worn at all times to be open, then yes, you and everyone else should be following this mandate to the best of your ability. Anyone that does not want to follow that should stay home. That's not to protect you though, that's to support the zoo. They have enough to worry about.

Well, science is still out on this. They have not done too many experiments on this yet, except by trying to simulate the outdoor environment by studying it inside in a lab.

There is information that it can still be an issue if enough people are in your immediate area. ETA: especially if one or more of those people are coughing or sneezing.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommends that everyone wear some form of cloth face covering in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain, as a means of reducing the chance of spread of COVID-19 from potentially infected but asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic individuals. COVID-19 can spread between individuals interacting in close proximity (e.g. speaking, coughing or sneezing), even in individuals who are not exhibiting symptoms.

I choose to be proactive rather than reactive.

 

[Boardwalkbrats]

It's not just those who die from COVID, there are serious longterm health implications that we're only starting to understand. Be informed.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/07/27/covid19-concerns-about-lasting-heart-damage/

I am informed. We will see if those ”long term health implication” are as rampant as you have intimated. please enlighten me. Then let me know about possible long term issues with other viral disease. Such as heart and other organ failure post influenza infection. These are possible With viral diseases. There are latent viruses that are in our cells waiting to take over your cellular production and replicate themselves. Several post graduate virology and infectious diseases class have me informed.
Thank you for your concern for my staying current.

 

[Boardwalkbrats]

I'm not sure this is true. Hong Kong recently mandated masks outside at all times for all people, and they've only had 3000 total cases.

Do you believe Chinese communist numbers.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

I am informed. We will see if those ”long term health implication” are as rampant as you have intimated. please enlighten me. Then let me know about possible long term issues with other viral disease. Such as heart and other organ failure post influenza infection. These are possible With viral diseases. There are latent viruses that are in our cells waiting to take over your cellular production and replicate themselves. Several post graduate virology and infectious diseases class have me informed.
Thank you for your concern for my staying current.

Approximately 20% of folks who have COVID without underlying conditions are currently considered long-haul with these side effects.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

Do you believe Chinese communist numbers.

There's no reason to not believe HK's numbers. China isn't the same country.

 

[Boardwalkbrats]

Well, science is still out on this. They have not done too many experiments on this yet, except by trying to simulate the outdoor environment by studying it inside in a lab.

There is information that it can still be an issue if enough people are in your immediate area. ETA: especially if one or more of those people are coughing or sneezing.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommends that everyone wear some form of cloth face covering in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain, as a means of reducing the chance of spread of COVID-19 from potentially infected but asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic individuals. COVID-19 can spread between individuals interacting in close proximity (e.g. speaking, coughing or sneezing), even in individuals who are not exhibiting symptoms.

I choose to be proactive rather than reactive.

I respect your choice, hopefully the converse is true.

 

[Boardwalkbrats]

They may be wrong. I just don't think they are the worst.

If it isn't 6ft distance, masks should still be worn. Some places where people are outside don't have that type of spacing for the number of people present. I went to the zoo with my daughter and granddaughter and there were several paths that were too narrow to maintain 6ft distance.

My experience has been that someone who isn't wearing a mask/or not correctly, could give a rat about distance either.

I don’t wear a mask unless in the surgery suite. A .05 micron virus and a 500 micron mask is like using a leaf blower to blow away a tornado. If wearing a mask makes you feel better by all means wear it.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

I don’t wear a mask unless in the surgery suite. A .05 micron virus and a 500 micron mask is like using a leaf blower to blow away a tornado. If wearing a mask makes you feel better by all means wear it.

If masks didn't work, why is there little or no virus in countries and states where masks are mandated, and virus everywhere in states with no mask mandate?

 

[anthony2k7]

Yeah that thread got nuked. I still don’t know how someone says some of that stuff in that threat with a against face.There is so much wrong information that gets posted in that thread.

They want to down play the pandemic. Now they want to downplay the economic crisis. The numbers on both tell the story but people want to ignore the numbers.

I like to think of it as the "Disney Rumors Bubble Thread". Its like their own little bubble completely detached from reality.

Reality (they call it negativity) is banned in that thread!

 

[anthony2k7]

If you are outside, relax. It is nearly impossible to spread COVID in a setting where you are passing someone for one second OUTSIDE. That's why I don't agree with the restrictions as they are being dolled out. OUTDOORS, they don't have any basis on science. Indoors, yes, outdoors no. BUT, don't get me wrong, if you are visiting the zoo and the zoo had to mandate wearing masks to be worn at all times to be open, then yes, you and everyone else should be following this mandate to the best of your ability. Anyone that does not want to follow that should stay home. That's not to protect you though, that's to support the zoo. They have enough to worry about.

The risk is certainly lower, but I dont think we really know how low yet.

 

[anthony2k7]

Do you believe Chinese communist numbers.

About as much as some of the American numbers, yes.

 

[anthony2k7]

I don’t wear a mask unless in the surgery suite. A .05 micron virus and a 500 micron mask is like using a leaf blower to blow away a tornado. If wearing a mask makes you feel better by all means wear it.

I'm sure many have told you already and you've ignored it, but the virus travels on water/liquid droplets from the mouth/nose. These are big enough for the mask to catch.

 

[RamblingMad]

Do you believe Chinese communist numbers.

The US has a sordid history of censorship. Check out the Spanish Flu.

 

[Wreckem]

If you are outside, relax. It is nearly impossible to spread COVID in a setting where you are passing someone for one second OUTSIDE. That's why I don't agree with the restrictions as they are being dolled out. OUTDOORS, they don't have any basis on science. Indoors, yes, outdoors no. BUT, don't get me wrong, if you are visiting the zoo and the zoo had to mandate wearing masks to be worn at all times to be open, then yes, you and everyone else should be following this mandate to the best of your ability. Anyone that does not want to follow that should stay home. That's not to protect you though, that's to support the zoo. They have enough to worry about.

There were numerous outbreaks tied to outdoor parties from Memorial Day. Outdoors doesn’t spread as easy but all current information says even outdoors sustained close contact with an infected person can lead getting infected.

Passing someone very briefly while walking around your neighborhood and not wearing a mask is unlikely to spread anything. Walking around a theme park in and out of confined spaces while not always socially distancing is another.

 

[wombat_5606]

I don’t wear a mask unless in the surgery suite. A .05 micron virus and a 500 micron mask is like using a leaf blower to blow away a tornado. If wearing a mask makes you feel better by all means wear it.

How did the hairdressers keep their 139 clients from being infected?
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6928e2.htm

How do you explain this?
A range of new research on face coverings shows that the risk of infection to the wearer is decreased by 65 percent, said Dean Blumberg, chief of pediatric infectious diseases at UC Davis Children’s Hospital.

Or this:
https://voxeu.org/article/unmasked-effect-face-masks-spread-covid-19
Are you an infectious disease specialist? How do I know you really are?

Can I trust every Doctor and their knowledge, even the one that made the video championing hydroxychloroquine yesterday?

Do you believe Chinese communist numbers.

I would believe those about as much as I would believe Florida's.