Here's another car buying question for you guys. I've got a 2007 Toyota Rav4 (base model, FWD, 40k miles, 3rd row seats & alloy/6-disc CD changer package). We got it in April after our car was totaled in an accident (not our fault). We were in a major time crunch as we couldn't function w/o a car for too much longer, plus we didn't get a ton from our totaled vehicle so we didn't get a very awesome deal on the Rav4. Now I'm having twins and we HAVE to turn-in the Rav4 for a minivan. We've done what research I know of to do (we like to be educated before we hit the car lots) and have priced our car as a trade-in on KBB, NADA & Edmund's. The trade-in value is right about between $13,000 - $14,000 with KBB on the high end and NADA on the low. If we can get $13,500 out of the Rav4 because of our lack of equity (and lack of funds to add to it to make a bigger down payment), about all we can afford for a minivan is $13,000 - $14,000. With 2 new babies to take care of, we don't want to increase our monthly payments. But ever single dealer we've been to (Toyota and non-Toyota), the most we've been offered for our vehicle is $11,000. I just don't get it... the car is in great shape, no damage or wear on the inside or out and it's got really low miles. And all the price checking I've done for trade-in values, I've based it off of a car in "average" condition, so it's not like I'm assuming it's in "like new" condition. Is it because we're looking for minivans that are less expensive than what we want to trade in??? What can I do about it? Is there anything *I* can do to increase the value of our trade-in? Believe me, we haggle. We spend hours at dealerships trying to get it to work, but we just can't with all they're willing to give us for the trade and no one is willing to budge on that number. I'm so frustrated (doesn't help that I DON'T want to be buying a new car) with the whole process & am just at my wits end.