George Zimmerman is in police custody

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  1. sunshinehighway

    sunshinehighway DIS Veteran

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    It was just announced on CNN. He is going to be charged. They haven't announced what he'll be charged with yet.
     
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  3. Jennasis

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    Is there a press conference at 6pm? The prosecutor was supposed to announces some new evidence.
     
  4. EPCOTatNight

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    2nd degree murder according to Yahoo.
     
  5. Wall-E1

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    I saw on another website that he is going to be charged with second degree murder. I guess we'll find out for sure in a little while.

    This is all the family ever wanted - a trial where all the facts could be presented.
     
  6. StacyMarie

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    Second degree. No matter what, people will be unhappy.
     
  7. sunshinehighway

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    yup second degree. I had been thinking it'd be manslaughter.
     
  8. Geoff_M

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    Me too. I hope a jury would have the option to vote for manslaughter, because if the prosecutor swings for the fence on murder and comes up short there might be an acquittal. In the reading I've done, an "imperfect self-defense" is often deemed as involuntary manslaughter... but I don't know the particulars of Florida law.

    I think you're stopping a bit short there... I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the family will also want nothing less than a conviction too.
     
  9. Imzadi

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    :worship: This is what all America should want. Whether he is found gulity or innocent is another thing. But, at least charge him, do a full investigation and present a case in court.
     
  10. Jennasis

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    I thought it'd be manslaughter as well. Hope they tack manslaughter on as well in case another Florida jury decides there juuuuuuuuust isn't enough for Murder 2.
     
  11. Imzadi

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    It's probably not manslaughter because when he called 911 he was very deliberately asked if he was following Trayvon and told NOT to follow him. The moment he went against what dispatch told him, he went outside of the law - with gun in hand, so to speak, and there is now considered some premeditation to his actions.

    Also, one can shoot a gun 10 - 20 feet away with some accuracy. He got close enough to get into a physical scuffle, so he said. He could have stopped approaching at any time IF his intent was simply to hold Trayvon in place until the police arrived. He deliberately escalated & got into an altercation with Trayvon.
     
  12. No.17CherryTreeLane

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    Where did you hear or read that he followed him with gun in hand?
     
  13. ols386

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    If he didn't have a gun on him, how would he have shot Trayvon?
     
  14. No.17CherryTreeLane

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    But having a gun on him is very different than following him "gun in hand".
     
  15. Imzadi

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    Sorry, I sort of meant that figuratively, I should have added, "so to speak." I may go back & edit what I wrote. He loaded a gun that day, walked outside with it. He knew he had it when he decided NOT to listen to the orders of dispatch telling him not to follow Trayvon Martin. He knew he could use it. He followed him with it, whether it was actually 'in hand,' at his hip or at his back. The procesutors MAY say there was no difference whether he had it in hand or at his hip which is why thy are going for 2nd degree murder.
     
  16. EMom

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    WTH? Youre going to let FACTS get in the way of a good dose of spin? Get with the program. :rolleyes1
     
  17. marie1203

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    I am glad there will be a trial where evidence will be presented. I feel no matter what in this case people have already made up their minds. I feel if he is found guilty there is still people that would think he was not and the same for the other side.
     
  18. Geoff_M

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    For the record, Florida defines 2nd degree murder as:
    It sounds like the central argument will be over whether Zimmerman's approaching (if that's what happened) of Martin, against the advice of the dispatcher, was an "imminently dangerous" act by a "depraved" mind. In another words, would it be reasonable to believe that it would be likely necessary to kill someone if you approached them in that situation.
     
  19. LisaR

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    Isn't that generally the way it is with any high profile case? Everyone has their opinion and you just won't please everyone. All I want is a fair trial. I do believe Zimmerman is guilty of, at minimum, reckless endangerment. I hope the jury is given other charges besides 2nd degree murder and I hope they are smart enough to understand those other options. I don't want to see another Casey Anthony circus.
     
  20. Imzadi

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    Great research. It clarifies a lot. :thumbsup2
     
  21. usnuzuloose

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    Your right , I dont want to see another Casey Anthony issue. Just when most people thought there would be a conviction and it went the opposite way. Was the gun he had concealed? I cant remember, I thought they talked about that.
     
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