I am trying to work out a budget for a trip in November 2013. It would be my mom (63), me (40), my friend (40) and her son (7). She is floored by the pricing I am quoting her for just her and her son. We definitely do not want to stay at a value. We could split a 1 br DVC but Im just not sure we'd wanna be squeezed in like that and deciding who gets the pull outs and who gets to share the king sized bed. Im toying with breaking my "never stay off property again" rule by compromising with a stay at a downtown disney resort. Does anyone have recent pictures (i see a lot of hotel brochure pics) and what can you tell me about their transportation? Where are there bus stops located? The only time I stayed off site was at the Hyatt Orlando in 1997 - when we didn't know any better - and our bus stop was a spot in the parking lots and transportation came at 20 past the hour and picked up from the hotel at 40 past the hour, every hour, until closing. Which meant we couldn't stay for the fireworks during that whole trip. Any help/advice/opinions would be appreciated. THANKS!!!