Doc Says I have the Swine Flu!!

I wouldn't tell people the Dr. thought it was Swine Flu... there's just too much hysteria around here about "Swine Flu, Swine Flu, Swine Flu..." Unless the Dr. had confirmed that it was H1N1, I wouldn't want the label applied. (Seriously, we have some folks in our school district who want the district to close for 3 MONTHS at the slightest sign of any Swine Flu.) I'd just say "flu" and leave it at that.

You do need to stay home, drink lots of fluids, get as much rest as possible and try to stay away from everyone. Methinks a few days comfortably ensconced in bed with some books and the computer may be in order!

Please, please, please... stay at home. Whether it's a cold, swine flu, or regular flu... the rest of us don't want it!
 
Swine flu is like almost anything...it can affect everyone differently! Of course there are some symptoms that almost everyone gets.
I had the swine flu in June and I was the sickest I have even been in my life. I had all the major symptoms to the extreme(the diarrhea, fever and achiness where the worst)
I told my dh that every single cell in my body hurt...I couldn't get out of bed for 3 days except to use the bathroom. And I'm not that type of person who gets sick and sits/lays around..I have 3 kids so that's not an option. My kids were scared as I had to have the grandparents take them away from the house when I was sick cause I was just so darn sick. After I got sick we realized that our 2 boys had had similair, very mild symptoms the week before I got sick. My dd never got it and my dh got it around when I did but had a mild case as well.
Now in Jan. of 2008 we all had the regular flu right around New Years. The kids and my dh were severely ill and I was only a little sick...thank god as I had to care for a 6 month old, 5 y.o. and 8 y.o. along with my sick husband.
 
I think there is alot of misdiagnosis going around. I went to the doctor yesterday with nausea, 101.4 fever, a little achy, and really tired. I was given a flu test and it came back negative. My doc said the flu test only tested for the A and B strain and based on my symptoms I had swine flu.

I went home quarantined myself to my room and slept the rest of the day. I woke up this morning feeling fine. Starting to get a little sniffly but no other symptoms and I feel much better. I personally don't think I had the flu.
 
OP, I believe that I had swine flu back in June and I was a lot like you. A new symptom every day. I never had the run over by a truck feeling but one day was just completely fatigued, the next day sore throat and headache, then upset stomach and finally the cough that lasted a couple of weeks. My dd had it (confirmed type A flu) a few days after me and after the initial fever broke(2 days) she was feeling fine but was out of school for 7 days(mandatory) The reason I'm sure I had it was my good friend is a nurse in a pediatric office and one day told me that she had just driven a little girl with swine to the hospital(she was asthmatic) I was telling her to not breathe and me and we were laughing about it. Well, 2 days later we both came down with the illness, she was positive for the flu, I never went to the Dr.

OP, hope you're feeling better! Long live Target!!
 


I'm not sure what part of Alabama you live in, but the flu and H1N1 are both going around in Huntsville. We've have several confirmed cases in our school, along with strep and whooping cough. It seems like the flu is starting earlier this year, too.
 
First off, I think that any MD should test for anything they bother to diagnose. I grew up with a pediatrician that ALWAYS tested, and ALWAYS delayed treatment until those results were back, and I wish that all MDs were like that.


I need to find a homepathic specialist. I truly believe you can improve your health and avoid a lot of health problems down the road.

Yep. Did you ever look into how well people did, the ones treated by homeopaths, in the big flu epidemic in the 1800s? They fared FAR better than those treated allopathically.

YMy dd is sitting in her dorm room burning up with fever right now.

Fever is good, though. It's the immune system working to kill off the organisms. I'm sorry she's uncomfortable, but I hope she's not taking drugs to thwart her system's responses, I hope she's supporting her body in what it's working to do.


ALL Flu, swine or otherwise, is generally characterized by the "I feel like I got run over by a truck" type of feeling.

There is no such thing as ONE reaction to anything. Everyone's immune systems are different. The germ theory (one "bug" causes a set of symptoms and will cause the same symptoms in another person), that has influenced the allopathic model since it was thought of, is just silly. My family can get one thing, and it will affect each of us differently. It'll go to my lungs, b/c that's my weak spot. It'll do somethign else to hubby, and something else to DS. DS will get better quickest of all b/c he hasn't had his immune system messed with. Hubby and I have. It takes us ages to get better.

I have a friend who spreads EVERYTHING b/c she's on immunosuppresive drugs. She had chronic idiopathic hepatitis, diagnosed at 13, and just had a liver transplant this spring at 38. She's actually now taking fewer immunosuppressive drugs since the new liver, which is kinda funny. Before the new liver, I called her Typhoid Mary b/c she passed along everything, but never had symptoms, never "got sick", because her immune system could not react. (of course the illogical transplant doctors made her get vaccinated all the time, repeatedly, b/c her titers never showed immunity...HELLO, she canNOT get immunity b/c of the drugs you have her on! duh!)

Anyway, she had NO reaction to the stuff that "goes around". I react to everything. etc etc.



OP I hope you get well soon! This thread is reminding me of back in '02 when I got drastically sick, but not sick enough to haul myself to an MD, and from all the symptoms I felt it was that, oh whatever it was that was spreading...it was from mosquitos? Anyway, whatever it was never officially made it to WA, so no one believed that I had it, but the thing was, we'd just been on a road trip all the way out to Montana, and it was there, so I could very well have gotten it there, but not reacted until we got back. Meh. Same treatment no matter what...lots of rest, and if the lungs start to scare me TOO much, then I'll go see someone.

Oh, hubby swears by this Korean soup...mung bean sprouts in a broth made with a ton of spicy bean paste. When we actually remember to make it, we rebound FAST. A non-vegetarian would probably use a bone broth...we just used a veggie broth.
 
Oh, hubby swears by this Korean soup...mung bean sprouts in a broth made with a ton of spicy bean paste. When we actually remember to make it, we rebound FAST. A non-vegetarian would probably use a bone broth...we just used a veggie broth.

Would you mind sharing the recipe? Sounds interesting.
 


Probably much more effective than whatever beans you want to eat would be HAND HYGIENE and COVERING YOUR MOUTH AND NOSE.

We just had a departmental update on H1N1 (and I really wish people would stop calling it "swine flu").

In most people, it is a mild viral illness. Average fever is about 100 to 101. Almost always associated with sore throat and/or cough.

And yes, it IS the only influenza strain occuring these days. It is too early yet for the seasonal flu. So anyone with an ILI (influenza-like illness) has, by definition, H1N1.

Tamiflu IS available and is VERY EFFECTIVE against H1N1. Physicians and health care providers are under strict orders to NOT stockpile it or prescribe it to family members.

The H1N1 vaccine should be available mid-October. There are currently 4 different companies manufacturing it. There will be a nasal mist version, but we (health care providers) don't know how much of what version we will get. Iowa is promised 400,000 doses in the first shipment, to be distributed to all 99 counties according to population density. Providers are requested to just give the vaccine as needed, and not save any for a possible second dose. Individual syringes will be thimerosol-free, but multi-dose vials WILL have thimerosol, and again, we don't yet know what form of the vaccine we will be receiving.
 
What a timely topic, we just had grand rounds this morning on influenza, and of course, swine flu.

First off, I think that any MD should test for anything they bother to diagnose. I grew up with a pediatrician that ALWAYS tested, and ALWAYS delayed treatment until those results were back, and I wish that all MDs were like that.

It's not always cost effective and worth testing for some things, because it often won't change your management, and sometimes you can't delay treatment. With the flu, it can take several days to confirm H1N1. For Tamiflu to be effective, it needs to be started less than 48 hours from the start of symptoms, you can't wait for a positive result. Also, by the time the results are back, often, the patient will be feeling better, so what's the point to do it? I believe the current CDC recommendation is only to culture people getting admitted to the hospital, otherwise, it just runs up the cost of healthcare, and we all know people hate that.


Yep. Did you ever look into how well people did, the ones treated by homeopaths, in the big flu epidemic in the 1800s? They fared FAR better than those treated allopathically.

Are you thinking of the 1918 Spanish flu epidemic? I really don't think it's fair to compare an epidemic that happened almost 100 years ago to today. Back then, very few people were even washing their hands after coming into contact with a sick person. They had very few medications, certainly no Tamiflu or amatadine, they had no flu vaccines. They really didn't have much. Now, we can treat you if you come early enough with Tamiflu, we can give you IV fluids if you're too nauseous to drink, we are better able to treat complications than we were 100 years ago. So get back to me when you can show me data that nowadays, homeopathic and osteopathic remedies alone are better than allopathic. By the way, I'm an osteopathic medical student, and my school is huge on OMT, but even our OMT doctors would never suggest that if you have a patient with the flu or pneumonia, you should only treat them with manipulation. Use it as an adjunct, sure. Use it alone, never. And this is from people who make a living practicing osteopathic medicine.

OP, while I'm not trying to discredit your doctor, when I had swine flu, I barely had the energy to get to the doctor. I was a mess, I actually had somehow driven to school since I had a lab, and my professor actually kicked me out of lab and sent me to the clinic. I could barely sit in the exam room because I felt so terrible. But, it does effect everyone differently. The thing with the flu is that the symptoms are so non specific, and so generalized. And I know you said you had a temp of 99.2, but that's really not considered a fever, at our hospital, a fever is over 100.4, since there are natural fluctuations in your body temperature throughout the day. Whatever you got, I hope you feel better soon.

BTW, I know everyone gets concerned with the epidemic, because it hits the normally healthiest people the hardest. If you look at past flu epidemics, the highest mortalities were I think people from 15-50, normally the group that does best with illness. They think the reason for this is because in that population, their immune systems are the strongest, so when they got infected, their immune systems launched into overdrive, and essentially, the response was too strong, and their own bodies kill them. That's the theory anyway.

And if anyone wants to compare it to the Spanish flu of 1918, it so far seems to be following a similar pattern (according to our ID doctor). It started in the early summer, was relatively mild, dropped off in late summer/early fall, and then picked up again and that's when it was severe and caused the most damage. So that's what they're concerned with, that now, it's dropped off a bit, but they're afraid of it picking back up and coming back stronger like the 1918 flu.
 
The H1N1 vaccine should be available mid-October. There are currently 4 different companies manufacturing it. There will be a nasal mist version, but we (health care providers) don't know how much of what version we will get. Iowa is promised 400,000 doses in the first shipment, to be distributed to all 99 counties according to population density. Providers are requested to just give the vaccine as needed, and not save any for a possible second dose. Individual syringes will be thimerosol-free, but multi-dose vials WILL have thimerosol, and again, we don't yet know what form of the vaccine we will be receiving.

In NY, they made it a regulation that all physicians, nurses, and anyone who comes into contact with patients (including the people that deliver meals, maintenance, janitors) need to be vaccinated with the regular flu shot, and H1N1 when it becomes available. Supposedly, the hospitals will be providing this to us. Also, our medical director was telling us he recieved a notification that any physician who hasn't been vaccinated with H1N1 by Nov. 30 and does not have a medical reason to not get it, will not be allowed to see patients in the hospital.
 
In NY, they made it a regulation that all physicians, nurses, and anyone who comes into contact with patients (including the people that deliver meals, maintenance, janitors) need to be vaccinated with the regular flu shot, and H1N1 when it becomes available. Supposedly, the hospitals will be providing this to us. Also, our medical director was telling us he recieved a notification that any physician who hasn't been vaccinated with H1N1 by Nov. 30 and does not have a medical reason to not get it, will not be allowed to see patients in the hospital.

We are doing the same. Vaccination for seasonal flu and probably H1N1, when it is available, is MANDATORY for all health care providers in our hospital.
 
Did you have a fever? I have a bad cold too but I know it is not the flu.

You know when you have the flu. You do not feel like shopping at Target.:lmao:

That's definitely been my case. I was feeling really tired last Weds. night and had a headache. Woke up at 3 a.m. and took some more aspirin for the headached. Got up and felt okay Thursday morning. Started feeling cold around lunch. Left school and went home to check my temp. (102.5), so I went straight to the doctor. By the time I saw the doctor, my temp was 104, and they called my husband to drive me home.

They gave me Tamiflu, and it definitely helped how bad I felt. Today is the first day that I've had no fever at all (the last couple of days it has come and gone). I go back to school on Monday.


I have one question though. How did your doctor determine it was Swine Flu? Did he send a culture in for testing?

Around here they are swabbing for Type A flu and if you're positive for that, they're saying it's probably swine because that's the only flu running around right now but they're not saying "you have the flu" just by looking at people without swabbing. Haven't yet heard of anybody being charged $$ for it.

In my case, the doctor said that I tested positive for the A strain, and that's H1N1 (we seem to have quite a bit of it in our area). Let me add, that I think that's what she said, I was pretty out of it! :laughing:
 
OP, while I'm not trying to discredit your doctor, when I had swine flu, I barely had the energy to get to the doctor. I was a mess, I actually had somehow driven to school since I had a lab, and my professor actually kicked me out of lab and sent me to the clinic. I could barely sit in the exam room because I felt so terrible. But, it does effect everyone differently. The thing with the flu is that the symptoms are so non specific, and so generalized. And I know you said you had a temp of 99.2, but that's really not considered a fever, at our hospital, a fever is over 100.4, since there are natural fluctuations in your body temperature throughout the day. Whatever you got, I hope you feel better soon.

It is very sad to me to read that someone as educated as yourself (I make that assumption because it sounds like you are in medical school based on this post) would purposely drag yourself to school when you admit that you felt terrible and were a mess. We can't prevent this virus from spreading unless people start taking responsibility and make it a point to stop spreading their germs.

I will never forget when my DD was six and I took her to the doctor for a high fever. The doctor had a son that was the same age as my DD (born on the exact same day). I was so annoyed to listen to the doctor tell me that she was expecting a call from the school soon to come pick up her kid because he had a fever that morning and she gave him Motrin. She couldn't miss work because she had patients to see. Thanks to her kid, I am sure she had plenty more patients to see since he infected his classmates.

Stay home if you are sick. None of us want your germs.
 
It is very sad to me to read that someone as educated as yourself (I make that assumption because it sounds like you are in medical school based on this post) would purposely drag yourself to school when you admit that you felt terrible and were a mess. We can't prevent this virus from spreading unless people start taking responsibility and make it a point to stop spreading their germs.

Stay home if you are sick. None of us want your germs.

Well said. I agree. Talk about irresponsible.
 
Great, sounds exactly like what I have had for the last few days. Started Monday was the worst yesterday with very achy joints, could barely walk, scratchy throat, head congestion, cough and chest congestion. Fever hoovering just under 100.2. I also was exhausted and wanted to just lay down but couldn't sleep. Finally today I feel a bit better, still very stuffy in the head but my body doesn't hurt as much now.

DS, 2.5, is starting to get it but he is much milder than me. He woke me up at 5am saying Mommy, ****oo and pointing down his mouth. If he get's worse I'll take him in tomorrow.

I don't have an GP here ... should I go to a walkin if I don't feel better tomorrow?
 
Great, sounds exactly like what I have had for the last few days. Started Monday was the worst yesterday with very achy joints, could barely walk, scratchy throat, head congestion, cough and chest congestion. Fever hoovering just under 100.2. I also was exhausted and wanted to just lay down but couldn't sleep. Finally today I feel a bit better, still very stuffy in the head but my body doesn't hurt as much now.

DS, 2.5, is starting to get it but he is much milder than me. He woke me up at 5am saying Mommy, ****oo and pointing down his mouth. If he get's worse I'll take him in tomorrow.

I don't have an GP here ... should I go to a walkin if I don't feel better tomorrow?

There probably isn't much they can do for you at this stage. Tamiflu only works if you take it at the onset of symptoms or shortly thereafter. Just make sure to rest, stay hydrated, and call the doc if you have the following issues (I pulled this off a pregnancy and influenza website):

• Have difficulty breathing or shortness of breath
• Have pain or pressure in the chest or abdomen
• Experiences sudden dizziness
• Experience confusion
• Experiences severe or persistent vomiting
• Notice decreases or no movement of your baby
• Have a high fever that is not responding to acetaminophen (Tylenol)
 
Our little neighbor girl had it and it was very mild. Low grade fever (100) off and on and the sore throat/cough. She was swapped for influenza A and tested positive and they said it was swine flu. Her dad got it and he also had the stomach upset, but still a mild fever. Another teenage girl just a few houses down farther has it right now and she is very sick. Very high fever, body aches, upset stomach and a horrible cough. It is just affecting people differently. We were in contact (or my children were) with all these kids right before they got sick. So we are just waiting for the first one of us to get symptoms.
 
You do not sound like you have the flu, sorry. My dd is sitting in her dorm room burning up with fever right now.

To make "light" of the flu is baloney on your doctors part.:sad2:

What are the symptoms of swine flu?
The symptoms of swine flu are expected to be similar to the symptoms of regular seasonal flu. People with swine flu typically have a fever or high temperature (over 38°C/100.4°F) and two or more of the following symptoms:

unusual tiredness,
headache
runny nose,
sore throat,
shortness of breath or cough,
loss of appetite,
aching muscles,
diarrhoea or vomiting.


Her symptoms are consistent with swine. Not everyone gets the extremely high fever, and it has been repeatedly reported that symptoms can be mild in alot of those who get it.
 
I see people saying 99.2 isn't a fever, but for some people it is!!!!!!!!!! My body temp routinely runs around 96 degrees because of my endocrine issues. If I have a temp of 99.2 that's about equal to 101 in a regular person! So for all those medical people out there, don't discredit a lower temp like that.
 
I had the same basic thing a couple of weeks ago. I was told it was a sinus infection. I think some of the doctors are to quick to diagnose the flu.
 

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