I don't know if this is allowed and I apologize if I am breaking any rules but I found this site extremely helpful when answering all my Curves questions and thought it may be helpful to others. It's actually another message board link: http://www.voy.com/105881/ I just tried to get on and apparently is is down for upgrades but try later. Again, I apologize if this breaks the rules... please delete if necessary. Thanks!!!!